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Posts from Regarding the first match between NDFL and Lowk (Chinese). Auto-translated

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#17
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To axelle.
Thank you very much for your messages. I am very pleased that some players on the Chinese side also doubt the correctness of the decision regarding my first game and have the courage to admit it. Respect. And I am very sorry that axelle is experiencing problems on his forum because of this.

Let me explain the rules. In advance, 10 maps for 3 players are generated. Red is the judge and is forcibly placed in a part of the map where he does not interfere or change the layout. From there, he can monitor all the players' actions. In my opinion, the layouts are quite balanced, and the bugs have been removed (for example, it seemed to me that in the second game, the Guardian was moved from my path so that it could be passed).
The colors are assigned by drawing lots, and orange randomly names the number of the map on which the game will take place. There are no restarts.

Regarding the situation in the first game. It was the middle of the second week. The turn was long, and at the end of the turn, I attacked the Blood Wolves. It was a battle of medium difficulty, and a loss was quite possible, especially for a player who is not very good at battles.
At the very beginning of the battle, a disconnection occurred. While in the battle, I restored the connection, informed the judge in the chat, and brought the battle to the end. Immediately after that, I took a screenshot of the losses and saved the game, and immediately sent the screenshot to Stiky. During this time, it was practically impossible to switch, replay the battle, and fake a screenshot. The judge refused to look at the screenshot. I was not allowed to upload the save file. In fact, after such a display of distrust, I had no choice but to agree to a replay. This was after 4 hours of play, when the game was already coming to an end. Later that night, I analyzed the situation. Yes, I believe that my victory was very likely, and the judge's decision was in favor of my opponent. Arguing with judges is not my style, but in this case, I believe the decision was unfair.

The Chinese side is satisfied with the result. A replay of the first game is impossible; I have already seen the save file.
No offer was made to play a game to 2 wins from the Chinese side. I could continue the match to 2 wins from a score of 0-1 after November 15, if I have internet access. But if the Chinese team believes that they acted correctly, then there is nothing to talk about.
#18
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Translation via Google Translate.

Thanks for the reply guys, especially Pit for LM.

@Pit, I would translate what you said into Chinese and post it on the Chinese forums, but I am banned and labeled as a "traitor" (for posting here).

I don't even understand how those people (my own countrymen) do things, I didn't have any malicious intent yet they hate my guts for posting here.

I couldn't even follow the second game (DW game between GML and Naplm) because I can't even view that thread (because I am banned), but I heard that the Chinese player lost. Honestly speaking, I hoped that we the Chinese could win because DW is the most played map in China, but on the other hand, Naplm did a good job beating GML (who is a very good DW player).
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#19
axelle

The truth is very sorry that you were banned for anything on your site. Only due to the fact that your opinion is contrary to the opinion of the judge. It is outrageous. I hope that this is a hasty decision.

But you can play on our website with our players for fun. There are interesting tournaments. I am sure that many of our players will be interesting to play with you. And with the other guys too.

Different styles of play, new people, everyone is welcome

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Сейчас балуюсь этим https://vcmi.eu/download/
За то что нейтралы не бегают за единичкой, для меня это уже стоит того
#21
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Translation via Google Translate: Lider1, I appreciate the offer, but as a Chinese, I would still prefer to play heroes3 with my own countrymen.

It is just sad, after over 10 years of being part of the Chinese heroes3 community that I have grown to love (maybe it's time to reconsider that word), I get banned for one single opinion that disagrees with the match organizer/judge.

Lider1, I appreciate the offer but as a Chinese, I would still prefer to play heroes3 with my own countrymen.

It is just sad, after over 10 years of being part of the Chinese heroes3 community that I have grown to love (maybe it's time to reconsider that word) I get banned for one single opinion that disagrees with the match organizer/judge.
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#22
Axelle, I'm sure that most of Chinese and other players will uderstand your position, i hope you will solve this problem, in fact you should gain more benefit than losses.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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#23
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It's interesting to observe the clash between two different mindsets. For the Slavs, only victory in a fair fight brings satisfaction, while for the Chinese warrior, cunning is an important quality, and deceiving the enemy is considered valor.
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#24
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It's short-sighted to talk about mentality; life isn't like it's portrayed in movies, on the internet, or in books.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
#25
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If I respect my opponent, when he disconnects, but he provides proof that he did not purposely do so, I ask him to save and we load his save. It's a standard "(P) implies (Q) ---> not (Q) implies not (P)" analogy: Lowk doesn't allow his opponent to do that, therefore, Lowk doesn't respect his opponent as a player.

Now the Chinese organizer comes out and says that most Chinese players would have done the same thing that Lowk did (see the sticky here /topic/8361/. If what he said is true, then most of Chinese players have no respect for Russian players...

So this is when it suddenly hit me: that is so true!!!...After KK beat GOD, the Chinese message board was flooded with messages that belittle the Russian player:

"He plays like he is playing against the computer."

"KK won without any trouble."

"How can the Russians send someone of this caliber."

"We need to give them advice on how to play against humans."

"Their hero has 8 skills, funny."

"He has his mind set on beehives and artifacts and Dragon Utopia, that is so single-player mode."

"All the Russians care about is honor, unlike us Chinese, we have tricks and we are smart."

So I am going to say this once for all, this will be my last post regarding this Russia-China match:

My comrades, if you want to keep improving and be really good, you have to be open minded and you cannot be too proud. This is the exact reason that the Chinese, once a world-dominating power, fell behind, and we haven't caught up with the leading ones yet.

If I respect my opponent, when he disconnects, but he provides proof that he did not purposely do so, I ask him to save and we load his save. It's a standard "(P) implies (Q) ---> not (Q) implies not (P)" analogy: Lowk doesn't allow his opponent to do that, therefore, Lowk doesn't respect his opponent as a player.

Now the Chinese organizer comes out and says that most Chinese players would have done the same thing that Lowk did (see the sticky here /topic/8361/. If what he said is true, then most of Chinese players have no respect for Russian players...

So this is when it suddenly hit me: that is so true!!!... After KK beat GOD, the Chinese message board was flooded with messages that belittle the Russian player:

"He plays like he is playing against the computer."

"KK won without any trouble."

"How can the Russians send someone of this caliber."

"We need to give them advice on how to play against humans."

"Their hero has 8 skills, funny."

"He has his mind set on beehives and artifacts and Dragon Utopia, that is so single-player mode."

"All the Russians care about is honor, unlike us Chinese, we have tricks and we are smart."

So I am going to say this once for all, this will be my last post regarding this Russia-China match:

My comrades, if you want to keep improving and be really good, you have to be open minded and you cannot be too proud. This is the exact reason that the Chinese, once a world-dominating power, fell behind, and we haven't caught up with the leading ones yet.
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#26
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Could someone provide a more accurate translation?
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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#27
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Well, apparently he's quoting forum posts from people who watched the game. These quotes suggest that GOD is a complete noob who only thinks about hoarding as many Dragon Fly Hives as possible and got drowned, as if playing against the computer. He gave his hero 8 skills (without leveling a single magic school to Expert). How could the Russians possibly field such a noob? :D :D :D

Overall, very sporting :)
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#28
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lol) Ziki, when will we play? I told you I could play on Wednesday or today.
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#29
Axelle Bent On Destroying The Game。 Please Put Him Gag。
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#30
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What’s the score? Where are the reports in Russian? If it’s not too much trouble, could someone post them?
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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#31
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The score in random maps is 0-2, and in fixed maps, it's 1-0. The participants don't seem to want to provide reports.