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AYMAN, please read the post more carefully and consider that these words were directed at the organizer, who made such a decision without consulting anyone.
cheban
14 years ago
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AYMAN But I wrote to Oleg that there's nothing personal, we all learn from our mistakes. Everyone will forget everything if we do everything right. He rushed, made a hasty decision, but that happens. The main thing is to acknowledge the mistakes, weigh everything carefully, and not make rash decisions.
Wow. What happened here, did someone have a major battle?
You should find out who influenced him to do this; I don't think he would have come up with it on his own.
I already figured it out; it was me. :) Let me explain so there are no complaints about Oleg. I was presented with the facts: apparently, a player from the portal won in the "Novichok" league, and he has awards there, but here he has a second account, which doesn't look good, and people are complaining. I admit, I conducted the "investigation" hastily, without questioning witnesses or reviewing saves. I looked: indeed, it's the portal, the awards, the second account. The verdict seemed obvious to me. It seemed. Right now, I can't, but I'll look again in the evening and make a final decision. Although I already have a pretty good idea what it will be. In short. Leave Oleg alone; he didn't make the decision; he just followed orders. You can scold me if you want. And if you can. :)
But banning him is idiotic (he never hid the fact that Sky is Disciple).
This isn't idiotic; it's the forum rules; read them when you have time. If you follow them literally, then the second account should be banned, and the first one should receive 50 penalty points (which is half the way to a ban). If nothing criminal is found regarding Pioneer, I think we can bypass this rule, incurring fewer losses. :)
So, will there be complaints about the winner? So far, I'm only receiving positive feedback in private messages. Someone was unhappy, I think. Where are these people?
Sevensan
14 years ago
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I'm not happy with Cash, I! Why are you attacking Pioneer? He played well and won the tournament, and you... pff... I just want to ignore your rules, why be such a stickler.
I'm not happy with Cash, I! Why are you attacking Pioneer? He did a good job in the tournament, and you... pff... I just want to ignore your rules, why be such a stickler.
Keep ranting here :D I was asking who is unhappy with Pioneer, not Oleg and me.
Even though I haven't played Heroes in a long time, I still occasionally visit to read. I'll express my disagreement with Sky_Pioneer. I have good reasons for that. I played against him in a tournament on HeroeSportal, I think it was in August, where Discaipl behaved extremely negatively and unsportsmanlike (I don't remember all the details anymore, but it escalated to the top, and I was supported because I was right). As a result, we couldn't finish the match, and he was replaced, not me, think about it! In terms of communication, it was extremely unpleasant to communicate with him on ICQ; there were many insults directed at me for no reason, and I didn't really respond to them at first. As a player, he plays weakly and at a beginner level; there are so many mistakes, it's just AWFUL, so he basically belongs in the beginner league. But I'm against him, and I think he remembers our conflict. And yes, in terms of skill, Fidesx plays much better in my opinion (IMHO), so I'm rooting for his victory. Good luck to everyone.
Although I haven't played Heroes for a long time, I still come here occasionally to read. I'd like to express my disagreement with Sky_Pioneer. I have every reason to do so. I played against him in a tournament on HeroeSportsPortal, I think it was in August, where Disciple behaved extremely negatively and unsportsmanlike (I don't remember all the details, but it escalated to the top, and I was supported because I was right). As a result, we couldn't finish the match, and he was replaced, not me – think about that! In terms of communication, it was extremely unpleasant to interact with him on ICQ; there were many insults directed at me for no reason, and at first, I didn't really respond to them. As a player, he plays poorly and at a beginner level; there are so many mistakes that it's just AWFUL, so he basically belongs in the beginner league. But I'm against him, and I think he remembers our conflict very well. And yes, in terms of skill, Fidesx plays much better in my opinion (IMHO), so I'm rooting for his victory. Good luck to everyone.
I wonder, what was the point of saying all this??? Beginner level, etc., the person plays Heroes, and in my opinion, that's the MOST important thing, and it's not up to us to judge his skill level!!!!
Although I haven't played Heroes for a long time, I still occasionally visit to read. I'd like to express my disagreement with Sky_Pioneer. I have every reason to do so. I played against him in a tournament on HeroeSportal, I think it was in August, where Disciple behaved extremely negatively and unsportsmanlike (I don't remember all the details, but it escalated to the top, and I was supported because I was right). As a result, we couldn't finish the game, and he was replaced, not me – think about that! In terms of communication, it was extremely unpleasant to communicate with him on ICQ; there were many insults directed at me for no reason, and at first, I didn't really respond to them. As a player, he plays weakly and at a noob level; there are so many mistakes, it's just AWFUL, so he basically belongs in the beginner league. But I'm against him, and I think he remembers our conflict very well. And yes, in terms of skill, Fidesx plays much better, in my opinion (IMHO), so I'm rooting for his victory. Good luck to everyone.
Then, post the details, the ICQ logs, so that everyone can judge objectively; according to Disciple's stories, you looked rather bad. In general, I've never experienced rudeness or unpleasant communication from Disciple. I think many of the guys who played with him in the beginner league will say the same. So, it's probably a matter of your own behavior.
Then, please, provide the details, the logs from ICQ, so that everyone can judge objectively; according to Disciple's story, it was you who looked bad. In general, I have never encountered rudeness or unpleasant communication from Disciple. I think many of the guys who played with him in the Beginner league would say the same. So, the problem is probably with you.
The ICQ logs are long gone. So, the situation was as follows: Disciple started another restart, and I was wondering why. Or about something else, but I was very interested. In fact, I play with everyone and often ask why this or that is happening. In response to my inquiries (I insisted, but politely), he basically told me to go away and started to insult me harshly. And yet, I was just asking for an explanation; it was a trivial matter! Regarding the right to inquire why a restart was initiated – this is not specified in the rules of any portal, which means it is allowed. Everyone has the right to know why a restart was initiated; it's purely a matter of gaming interest! And Disciple will, of course, tell you everything he wants against me. Is he such an idiot that he would say that he is bad, and I am good? Of course, no one would do that in his place. And, by the way, my social status does not allow me to sink to such a level, so I cannot be just like he described me, rude and using foul language. His behavior, I repeat, was completely unsportsmanlike. He ignored me for a long time (or rather, all the time) when I wrote to him to finish the game; therefore, I explained the whole situation to Alessandro (the tournament organizer, I think) and someone else, and even sent the ICQ logs, and they supported me. Disciple, based on my professional psychological assessment, at least remotely through the internet, is recognized as an intolerant and tactless person who does not listen and does not respect stronger players, and he should...
KillerVampire, so what? If a person has been playing online for more than 5 years and is still playing at such a noob level, then he is wasting his time on the game!
theShevanesian
14 years ago
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The keywords are "insisted" and "demanded." It was his absolute right to take breaks and (pay attention) not explain anything to you. You probably had some kind of shock, and that's what upset you.
Okay, it's an old situation, no need to dig it up. I'll just say that I completely disagree with your assessment of Sergei's personality. That's it.
Sevensan
14 years ago
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Readme, your reputation is well-known, not just to me. Don't get involved in this, you'll regret it.
MeFi
14 years ago
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Actually, I am somewhat of an interested party in this matter. =) I decided not to write to Kash` in ICQ, I’ll write it right here: I just found out about these events in ICQ from Sky. Throughout the tournament, we communicated quite a lot — both when we played and after that. There was not a single instance of unsportsmanlike behavior — the person behaved appropriately and politely; how we played against each other is a completely different matter. The generator didn't decide in my favor there; the opponent got a more than playable hand, while I got a bare minimum, nothing more... Regarding the organizers' decision on the tournament — I won't argue, you guys know better (especially since I'm quite satisfied with 3rd place; first would be better, of course, but third is not bad either); but I can say for sure that banning a person from the forum for such violations — formal and somewhat silly — is not comme il faut at all =)
So, listen up, newbie citizens. A slightly more in-depth investigation has shown that the suspect is relatively innocent, meaning he is accused of creating a second account on HeroesWorld, and nothing more. According to the current criteria for tournament selection, responsibility for his participation in the tournament rests entirely with the organizer, and if he accepts such players (and there are several newbies of this level, it seems to me there are even higher-level ones) - that is his right, and no one: neither moderators, nor coordinators, nor the Creator himself can interfere with his decisions.
I asked the Creator, he will merge the accounts soon, I hope. Formally, I will charge Sky 50 points for creating a clone as required, and I think we'll put an end to it there.
Restore his rights as the winner of the "Новичок-2011. Summer" tournament. Drop all charges. My sincere congratulations and wishes of luck on the heroic front. Oleg, hang the medal :)
Yes, almost forgot.
Thank you very much to Rimpel for agreeing to take on this task; he did a great job, in my opinion. And it was nice to see such support for the winner from the players; well done. Keep it up.
So then, citizen newbies. A slightly more in-depth investigation has shown that the suspect is relatively innocent; in the sense that he is charged with creating a second account on HeroesWorld, nothing more. According to the current tournament selection criteria, responsibility for his participation in the tournament lies entirely with the organizer, and if he accepts such players (and there are several newbies of this level, I think there might even be higher-level ones) — that is his right, and no one: neither moderators, nor coordinators, nor the Creator himself can interfere with his decisions.
I asked the Creator, he will merge the accounts hopefully soon; formally, I will charge Sky 50 points for creating a clone as required, and with that, I think we can call it a done deal.
He is to be reinstated with the rights of the winner of the "Newbie-2011. Summer" tournament. All charges are to be dropped. My sincere congratulations and best wishes on the heroes' front. Oleg, hang the medal :)
Thank you for the righteous judgment and thanks for the congratulations) Thanks again to everyone for the support. And see you in the playoffs of the Favorites (if I make it out of the group) :D
