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Captain

14 years ago

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09/03/2011 Captain(Blue, Conflux, Monere) Def Psyche_7(Red, Castle, Valeska) Jebus 125

I got 3300 from my opponent for the color and castle. And I actually wanted Conflux, but I got paid extra for it! :)
Psyche_7 took all the remaining towns, and I got none.

On turn 1, I hid some Psychics, 2 Fae, one Fire Elemental, and 2 Dryads, totaling 12 units. The opponent was one tile short of being able to paint another Psychic town – he wasted troops guarding it (there was also a Pandora there – it turned out to be a High Magic creature, but I didn't have Wisdom).
On turn 123, I broke through the center, took a town, and finally got Slow (there was no Slow on the home town).
I take Pandora on turn 15 with 12 Griffins and 20k experience, and I'm still one tile short of the +5 All Stats artifact... and then my opponent takes the artifact and doesn't run away.

Thanks for the game.

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SpiriTT

14 years ago

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Sevensan

09/03/2011 Sevensan (Red, Dungeon, Shakti) Def SpiriTT (Blue, Inferno, Marius) 8mm6a 115

Thanks for the game.

I searched the rules for a rule about rematches and couldn't find one. And there was a Creature Duel on 115, what can you do...
Thanks.

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Oelm

14 years ago

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8mm6а is usually played with a rest before the meeting; if this is not in the HeroesWorld rules, then it's an oversight.

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R55Max

14 years ago

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SpiriTT

I searched the rules for a rule about re-rolls on encounters and couldn't find one. And there, the chance die is 115, what can you do...
Thank you.

Actually, the differences from the general rules are written for the 8mm6a template, which are followed when playing on the 2cm4d3 template. There are no reservations regarding point 4.2 from the rules for playing on the 2cm4d3 template in the differences, so this point remains in effect for the 8mm6a template without changes. With a 115, you are fully entitled to take a re-roll on encounters on any roads.

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numOne

14 years ago

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Sevensan

09/03/2011 Sevensan (Red, Dungeon, Shakti) Def SpiriTT (Blue, Inferno, Marius) 8mm6a 115
They agreed that there would be no restart.

key phrase.

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Dirty_Player

14 years ago

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R55Max

Actually, for the 8mm6a template, the differences from the general rules followed when playing on the 2cm4d3 template are written. In these differences, there are no caveats regarding point 4.2 of the rules for playing on the 2cm4d3 template; accordingly, this point remains in effect for the 8mm6a template without changes. At 115, you have every right to take a re upon meeting on any roads.

LOL! What seasonal rules? The season rules are written for SoD, while here it was the VT version. That's one. Did they even play a tournament where there should be a regulation or a link to the rules within the regulation? There is no link to the rules. That's two. Regarding restarts, there is a point that does not include re upon meeting. That's three. What other arguments are needed? :confused:

Sevensan

14 years ago

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I clearly stated that I don't care if there's a rest period after the match or not; it's your choice, I said. They replied that we'll play without a rest period, and there's no need to keep discussing it.

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Dirty_Player

14 years ago

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Sevensan

I clearly stated that I don't care if there's a rest period after the match or not, it's your choice. I was told that we'll play without a rest period, so there's no need to keep discussing it.

You actually did everything correctly. The bigger question here, as I see it, is: what should we believe – the regulations or the seasonal rules? :confused:

SpiriTT

14 years ago

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No, no complaints. It’s just that this restart has always been a thing, and it’s even mentioned in the rules of the Wargame Tournament. But this is a tournament with its own regulations, and there’s no such restart in the regulations – that’s why I didn’t have the right to demand a restart for that match. We agreed, everything’s fine. Who knew that there would be a disconnect…

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Captain

14 years ago

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Question for the tournament judge. We started playing against Sevensan. He's very meticulous – he plays strictly according to the rules, and he warned me about that right away when choosing the version. I realized this during his previous game with the Black Dragon. He took a rest because he didn't complete the money transfer – I was blue, and he was supposed to take 1900 coins from me. Then he took another rest on turn 112. I said that he doesn't have any more rests left... he's arguing. I ask you to judge, what does the tournament rules say about rests (am I blind? :) )

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Sevensan

14 years ago

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Captain

A question for the tournament judge.

We started playing against Sevensan.
He's a stickler – he plays strictly according to the rules – he warned me about this right away when choosing the version. :)
And I realized this during his previous game with the Black Dragon.
He took a rest because he didn't transfer the money – I was blue, and he was supposed to take 1900 coins from me.
Then he took another rest on turn 112. I said he doesn't have any more rests... he's arguing.
I ask you to judge what the tournament rules say about rests (am I blind? :) )

First of all, I'm not a stickler =). Secondly, I heard from Dirty today for the first time that I was supposed to enter -1900 in that field. Thirdly, I wouldn't have wanted to request a rest for this hand if it weren't for this mess. Don't make things up here. When I said "let's transfer the money" before my turn, you told me "I can't, the window isn't open. It will appear after I pass the turn." I said, "never mind," and continued playing. I passed the turn to you – you said, "the window didn't appear." So, you didn't know that I was supposed to enter "-1900" there; otherwise, you would have said so. Well, it's up to the judge; I'll survive without the rests.

Here are your answers from ICQ:

Captain (20:55:59 4/09/2011)
The menu for transferring money to me will appear on my turn.

Captain (21:01:40 4/09/2011)
You have one less rest.

Captain (21:01:54 4/09/2011)
Learn how to play. )

335665133@qip.ru (21:02:01 4/09/2011)
lol

At first, I thought the guy was joking about the rest. So, I'm really surprised.

numOne

14 years ago

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Given that Sevensan recently started playing Heroes of Might and Magic, he might not have known how to use the money transfer window, as indicated in the following lines: "Captain (20:55:59 4/09/2011) menu for transferring money to my turn appears" Therefore, we believe there was no restart. And, Captain, stop typing and misleading people.

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Dirty_Player

14 years ago

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numOne

Considering that Sevensan recently started playing Heroes, he might not have known how to use the money transfer window, as evidenced by the following lines:
"Captain (20:55:59 4/09/2011)
The menu for transferring money to my turn appeared"

The most surprising thing is that Captain didn't know what the problem was either. :)

Captain

He took a break because he didn't make the money transfer - I was blue, and he was supposed to take 1900 coins from me.

Captain, are you kidding me? If someone accidentally creates a map of the wrong size, will you also consider that a break? :D

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Psyche_7

14 years ago

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Captain

03.09.2011 Captain(Blue, Conflux, Monere) Def Psyche_7(Red, Castle, Valeska) Jebus 125

I got penalized by my opponent for the color and castle – 3300.
And I actually wanted Conflux, but he paid me extra for it! :)
Psyche_7 took all the remaining resources, I got nothing.

On the first turn, I hid some Psychics, two groups of Fairies, one group of Fire Elementals, and two groups of Dryads, totaling 12 units. My opponent didn't have enough units to paint another hiding spot for Psychics – he just wasted troops guarding it (there was also a Pandora there – it turned out to be a High Magic creature, and I didn't have Wisdom).
On turn 123, I broke through the center, took a village, and finally got Slow (there was no Slow on my home territory).
I take Pandora on turn 15, with 20k experience, and still don't have enough movement points to reach the +5 All attack sword... and then my opponent takes the sword and doesn't run away.

Thanks for the game.

I confirm. I apologize for the poor game on my part (it's my fault, I started playing in a completely "unsuitable" environment). I didn't capitalize on a good situation.
Thanks for the game and good luck!

Captain

14 years ago

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Yes, I didn't know myself, but I absolutely did not insist on playing WT.
I immediately suggested SoD.

It's one thing when a guy accidentally creates a map of the wrong size; then we give a rest.
But if, for example, due to lack of knowledge of the interface, he places the wrong building, or attacks the wrong monster, or doesn't know the quantity in a crowd (the guy had an English version before where it said "lots") — should we give a rest then too?

Num, ok — there was no rest.
It's just that the guy didn't show himself very well when he attacked Spirit with 115 from CD. I showed that lack of knowledge of the game should not exempt one from responsibility. And formally, if you read the rules — he had no right to take a rest (re-read the rules on when rests can be taken). Plus, I would have had mega chocolate then.

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