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15 years ago
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Thanks to everyone for the game. A little about the setting. Here, many people talk about the "bugs" of the setting as if they have forgotten the fact that the setting was posted before the game started in the Workshop, and everyone could make their own adjustments. So, either you "placed your hopes" on the mentioned testing, or you were just too lazy to think it through. In any case, comments in the style of "Man is an overpowered role for one Mafia" and so on are inappropriate, because this is not a deep analysis of all possible night scenarios; you could have thought of this simply by reading the setting, if you hadn't thought of it now (because I personally don't agree with this, I mentioned this point specifically as an example). The only real change after the discussion in the Workshop that I remember is Ara's request to give Man the ability to kill the Doctor normally. Next, the excess of roles and the variety of their effects. That was the whole point from the beginning. And it was said that the setting is crazy and chaotic. That's the beauty of it; more options = more possibilities. I have nothing against classic games, but if there weren't a lot of interesting roles and combinations, this setting wouldn't be... "itself." Minor things like "players from a team are recruited" are just funny; I would understand if Lorelei had complained about this, but the rest have played before, so they shouldn't be nitpicking. This is the logic of the game; a team cannot be broken up by recruitment, as this gives too much important information about the role. It wasn't written in the rules – that's not a bug; it's just that "you can't keep track of everything." The list of role visibility alone is worth respect because it shows that it wasn't just the usual "checks are not displayed, everything else is," but that all the details were really thought out. Or the order of the roles, in which the balance is so interestingly emphasized. Balance... You know, if we talk about the original idea of the alliance, i.e., the truce, I don't understand you. Cooperation that is beneficial for both sides has always existed – for example, Man helping to kill Mafia members for a while. To say that this initially deprived the villains of a chance to win is ridiculous. I haven't seen a single attempt to use the alliance for their own purposes, to cheat. No false notes, no daytime manipulations. They just stopped playing because "it's not Mafia-like." I now understand your indignation about the idea of a draw. But Hos is right; this idea was initiated by Ara himself. Initially, I wanted to break the cooperation at a certain stage and arrange a duel between the town and the psychomafia. But then these violations became so annoying that I wanted everyone to win except Ara. A draw is not a victory, yes. But a draw between part of the teams, and not all, is a victory for these teams over those who were eliminated before the draw. I have nothing against the villain team; I'm just against Ara. What I'm getting at is that there was a balance, and it was normal. If you're talking about the fact that I was shouting about the town's guaranteed loss, it wasn't guaranteed; it was just likely. I wouldn't shout, "Let's have a truce, or we'll lose." During the game, I bluffed a lot. In general, if you call the game the worst, you shouldn't address it to Slonysh. I made it the worst with my idea of an alliance, not the GM. There were bugs – I wrote about them, but there were no bugs in the literal sense. Imbalance – there was a balance, and my performance about the imbalance during the game was just a performance. An excess of roles and possibilities – that's the whole point. The newspapers were great, as were the executions. And in general, the setting was created with love and inspiration; every detail of it. In this regard, I apologize to Slonysh for ruining the game with my alliance. I'm sorry. I won't participate in the next Mafia game; you can rest from me. x) Good luck to everyone.
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15 years ago
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WHERE IS THE HYPOCRISY: in immunities or in the game being played solely to intentionally disrupt and hinder.
I just want everyone to win except Ara.
a team of villains, I have nothing against you, only against Ara.

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I wasn't hiding my feelings towards you from the beginning, as soon as you started behaving this way. Where is the hypocrisy? It's funny, you still don't admit that you were wrong.
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Okay, let's call it disrespect, which Hoss showed towards me. You were trying to annoy me, but in doing so, you ruined the game for everyone else. My reaction was a response to your actions, not the other way around. It's time to realize that.
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Arandor
Okay, let's call it disrespect that Hos showed towards me. You were trying to annoy me, but in doing so, you ruined the game for everyone else.
My reaction was a response to your actions, not the other way around. It's time you realized that.
No, I said that your disrespect sparked the idea. What happened next was part of the game. You're not so important that you can ruin the game for everyone else just to get back at you.
I was just saying that you could have apologized for your actions – and it doesn't matter whether it was a response or not. Apparently, you just don't think it's necessary.
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And what sparked the "disrespect"? First, remember how it all started.
Before the game began, the conversation turned to immunities. I asked a normal question, but Gill didn't answer and instead "made jokes." That's where the disrespect began! Hosy was also writing nonsense. In the end, I received an answer, but it turned out to be... not very good. Then I expressed my opinion about this and compared it to your complaints about me in the previous game. Hosy, of course, started talking about being upset because he doesn't know how to have a normal conversation. Then there was a discussion about "honor." Okay, we moved on. After that, the first day arrived, and it went well, although even then, Gill started talking about alliances. Things got even worse after that, and I started commenting on the game.
What should I apologize for? For expressing my negative opinion about unfairness and the alliance, or for acting the way I thought was right?
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15 years ago
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So, I press the Shift key and am ready to express my opinion... but okay, caps lock would be inappropriate. I liked the setting, I liked the newspapers, and I really liked the "numbers" of the roles. I didn't like this pathetic pseudo-plot. I've already said somewhere that this isn't a plot – it's just a simple exchange, a mutual one. Where is the beautiful game here? A non-standard move? Arandor also made a very non-standard move, observing the mafia and expressing his opinion, ghost mode, what, it could have added more interest to the plot! However, he is being criticized! That's strange! Hundreds of young people use such non-standard moves as forming alliances every day, going out into alleys at night and taking mobile phones. Why didn't we come up with such a brilliant idea? How so? Maybe because it really is what Arandor called it? It was useless to argue/prove/reason/use, was there a lack of argumentation? I can't imagine how much argumentation would be needed for at least someone to think that "maybe it's not worth it." Gil was shouting that THE CITY HAS NO CHANCE, well, come on guys, the city had a chance even on the last night, and before that, there were a whole bunch of chances. And you can't argue with that, because IT WAS GIL WHO SAID IT, EXPLAINED IT, CHECKED IT, AND HAS PROBABLY ALREADY EVEN PLAYED IT, was this a guess? Was it, how many times did the word "guesses and nothing more" appear in the thread? A billion. But what's the point? However, I hoped until the very end that one side would betray the other and reveal them, but no, it didn't become a non-standard, interesting move. I'll just leave it here; I'm too lazy to argue and pull out quotes, common features. I'm not upset by the terrible defeat; I really think that such a move is unacceptable for the mafia, and using it makes me want to vomit. Nevertheless, I enjoyed playing; thank you all for the game. I hope that in future games, Gil will not put personal preferences above the game, for the sake of stupid moves.
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15 years ago
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I, however, hoped until the very end that one side would betray the other and start a war, but no, it didn't become a non-standard, interesting move.
But then Lizard wouldn't have revealed his game, and we would have continued to stir up trouble.
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He would start it in parallel.
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15 years ago
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Neira Drake
But then Lizard wouldn't have launched his game, and we would have continued to stir up trouble.
So, are you saying that the whole point of this alliance – this epic fail of a mafia – was to let Lizard start his mafia sooner? Oh, come on... But then again, I agree.
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Umm... Will there be no logo?
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No.
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the electricity went out

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