Discussion of level 4 monsters. — General

Zybr

3/29/2011 4:10 PM UTC

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I've never seen creatures with the strength of a dragon in online battles... But after recently seeing a tactician without any skills wielding the Hand of Death, I'm not surprised by anything anymore. As for the Death Knights, they are certainly not the most desirable tier 4 units, but they still represent a formidable force. Their main advantage is not even their huge damage and 400 hit points, but their high attack and defense stats, which, combined with the Tactics skill (which, as you know, increases them as a percentage), become simply devastating. You need to be very careful when fighting Death Knights with 70-80 attack and defense; you can't just throw heroes at them in a straight fight.

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Gremlin From Kremlin

8/11/2011 8:28 AM UTC

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I voted for the Titans because of the archers.

Bupuppi

8/14/2011 8:38 PM UTC

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titans... but I accidentally voted for phoenixes.

Лень - мать всех пороков, а родителей нужно уважать.

vpatachek

8/15/2011 12:43 PM UTC

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The topic should have been titled "Which level 4 unit in Heroes 4 is the best, excluding the Black Dragon" - because it's obvious that the Black Dragon is the best! So, there's not much point in this poll - the vast majority would vote for the Black Dragon, including me (because that's the truth, and I voted honestly). But if we were voting based on my suggestion, I would have chosen the Angel.

Stratosfera

8/30/2011 12:01 PM UTC

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I love magical dragons, because if a druid has the Summon Dragon spell, and the hero himself has Lightning and other chaos magic, and the original dragon has a very powerful lightning attack (5 summoned dragons and 5 real ones, plus a 25th-level archmage hero – the total damage is approximately 3587. IMHO. I haven't calculated it, but I'll try now.)).

,,Моё имя будет записано в историю, ибо я великий Амадон,, - Амадон.

Zybr

8/30/2011 12:25 PM UTC

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"Which level 4 unit in Heroes 4 is the best, excluding the Black Dragon?"

100 people said that the Black Dragon is far from being the "coolest"... The Phoenix is better, the Angel is better... It's better not by the number of HP and damage, but by its capabilities.

5 summoned and 5 real Void Dragons plus an Archmage hero of level 25 - the total damage is approximately 3587.

It's definitely not enough...

Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!

Stratosfera

8/30/2011 12:30 PM UTC

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yes, but compare, for example, 10 Angels and one Tactician, level 25? And who will be stronger? By the time the monsters arrive, they will already be defeated, and only 1-2 will remain. And the Tactician will take care of them on the next turn.

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xTrishax

2/16/2014 1:39 PM UTC

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Why isn't the Marauder from the Castle faction included in the poll?

Силос Занж

2/17/2014 12:08 AM UTC

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What kind of marauder is that?

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
А эти чудеса порой, сокрыты в обычных, привычных предметах.

xTrishax

2/17/2014 4:47 AM UTC

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Well, it's a unit that replaces angels for the Haven faction. It costs 2000 gold, which is different from most other similar units.

Ment

2/17/2014 6:33 AM UTC

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In the poll, he was named the champion. If I understand you correctly, does this refer to a mounted Knight?

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xTrishax

2/18/2014 5:39 AM UTC

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Ment

In the poll, he was named champion. If I understand you correctly, does this refer to a mounted Knight?

Yes.
A good unit. There will definitely be enough money for him. But angels require strong funding. He has a pretty good ability to spread out. Although the angel is also not bad. Still, I think the Marauder is much more versatile.

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Силос Занж

2/18/2014 8:53 AM UTC

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xTrishax

Yes.
It's a good unit. There will definitely be enough money for it. But angels require significant funding. They have a pretty good ability to spread out. Although angels are also not bad. Still, I think marauders are much more versatile.

Many consider champions to be much weaker than angels. Although here, too, everything depends on tactics and the situation. If the game is fast-paced and there are very few rare resources, then you can build champions. And quickly buy growth and attack while the opponent hasn't bought/built their level 4 monster. Although even for such a tactic, angels are slightly preferable. If the game is long, then angels are bought. Betting on champions is risky, although if you manage to strengthen them with tactics and take advantage of their speed advantage, then why not build them?

Наш мир полон тайн и чудес.
Многие их ищут, многим они вовсе не нужны, а многие даже не замечают их, не понимают что они вокруг нас, каждый день, везде.
А эти чудеса порой, сокрыты в обычных, привычных предметах.

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CTPAHHuK

2/19/2014 3:56 PM UTC

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Champions are never built. On moderately rich or long maps, you should definitely build up to Angels. In all other cases – that is, when there isn’t enough money for several Angels – playing through monsters is not a viable strategy. Because 3-4 Champions are weak.

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xTrishax

2/19/2014 5:19 PM UTC

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CTPAHHuK

Champions are NEVER built. On more or less rich or long maps, you definitely need to build up to angels. In any other cases - that is, when there is not enough money for several angels - you don't play through monsters. Because 3-4 champions are weak.

Well, you're strange.
For example, if I have 10 cities and 100 mines, and you only have one city, I can crush you even with leprechauns. The thing is that champions always pay off, but angels require strong funding. Although the potential of angels is higher, it's pointless to argue about that.