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Discussion of level 4 monsters.

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Which Tier 4 monster is the best?
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Champion
2.7% 3votes
Angel
6.3% 7votes
Dragon Golem
1.8% 2votes
Titan
8% 9votes
Phoenix
5.4% 6votes
Magic Dragon
6.3% 7votes
Devil
4.5% 5votes
Bone Dragon
0.9% 1vote
Black Dragon
42.9% 48votes
Hydra
2.7% 3votes
Monster
1.8% 2votes
Thunderbird
1.8% 2votes
Praying Mantis
8.9% 10votes
Sea monster
6.3% 7votes
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Which level 4 monster is the best?
For example, I think that black dragons are the best.

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Offline Dj Павлуша
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A marine marvel and, of course, Black Dragons. :smile01:
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The best one is the Dragon King. And he's strong, by the way. No one can defeat him in a one-on-one battle. In an army, he should be the only one of his kind, not counting the hero. And there you have it – the very best.
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General ZeT;129489
The best is the Dragon King. And he's strong, by the way. No one can defeat him in a one-on-one fight. In an army, he should be the only creature, not counting the hero. And there you have the best.

Here we're talking about level 4, but the Dragon King is far from level 4)).

Even though the Black Dragon is stronger than all the others in terms of stats, I like Archangels, Titans, and Behemoths. It's just a matter of preference.

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This is about level 4, but the Dragon King is far from level 4))

Even though the Dragon King has the highest stats of all, I like Archangels, Titans, and Monsters. It's just a matter of preference.

The Dragon King may be much stronger than ordinary level 4 creatures, but he still belongs to that level. There are no level 5 creatures in Heroes 4, and the Dragon King is the strongest of all.
The creator of this topic probably only played the regular Heroes 4 without the official expansions, because the list of creatures doesn't include the Champion of Darkness, Sorceress, Gargantua, Dragon King, and Berserkers.

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Actually, I like the Champion of Darkness and Gargantua.
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Titans are good. They are the only ones that shoot (besides Gargantuars) and have a 4th-level attack. And Sorceresses...
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
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You are mistaken; I played in a game where there were dragon kings, catapults, and so on. But I think that new monsters shouldn't be added here. And besides, dragon kings aren't even level 4.

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I think the Black Dragon is the strongest!
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You are mistaken; I played there, and it had dragon lords, catapults, and so on.
But I think that new monsters shouldn't be added here.
And besides, dragon lords aren't even level 4.

Tell me, please, what level are they?
If you're unsure, go into the editor, look at the random creatures of level 4, and check the list.
Dragon Lord is level 2 to 3.
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Yeah, and champions from 12 to 18 are just as strong))) If we were to create our own classification, then CD would definitely be ranked 5th...
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
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Yeah, and champions from level 12 to 18 are equal in strength to them))) If we are going to create our own classification, then the Sea Monster should definitely be level 5...

There is no level 5. And you are right about the balance of power. The Sea Monster can be considered level 5, but there is no level 5, so it belongs to level 4. But it's worth knowing that the Sea Monster can draw with the King, but the probability is about 30%.
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In that case, there was no need to create this thread. It's obvious that Dragon Lords are the strongest.

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Why is that? In skilled hands, even a Fairy can become a Terminator. Besides, you're comparing them in a one-on-one scenario, but in official and online games, growth also plays a significant role. So, it's unlikely that a 1.1 Chaos Demon, created in a week, could handle 2.3 Titans, also created in a week, considering that the Titan only takes half damage from the Chaos Demon...
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
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Dragon Lords are significantly stronger than all other creatures. But it's simply a large gap between them and the rest! Also, we shouldn't forget about growth rate: usually, those who are significantly weaker have a higher growth rate. And in general: even if we assume that the growth rate of a Dragon Lord is 1 per week, it's still a clear imbalance in strength! Personally, I see it as a design choice by the developers who thought, "What else can we surprise the player with? I've got it! Let's create a super-creature!" And they did the right thing by not including it in the voting! I would even remove praying mantises and sea monsters.
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By the way, there's no dwelling for the Dungeon faction...))) So, it can only be used if the mapmaker includes it... And in a regular game, it can be ignored - it won't be there... They did the right thing by not including it in the vote - it's practically non-interactive - you won't encounter it in the game...
Хороший сон укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошая еда укрепляет боевой дух. Хорошие деньги укрепляют боевой дух. А больше всего укрепляет боевой дух - отсутствие врага.
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