Posts from Мафия 32. Asylum

You're all noobs.

And what do you suggest...?

Of course, I remember. After all, it was just as much a violation of the rules as Arandor's violations in this game.

Not a single constructive argument, just aggressive behavior towards other players. And also, "you will lose if you mess with the psychos."

I suggest getting rid of them all at the same time.

After all, it was just as much a violation of the rules as Arandor's violations in this game.

Cingulotomy - permanent block. Tractotomy - one-night block. Amygdalotomy - permanent loss of voice.

It's not a violation because if a player has figured out a role for themselves and deemed it necessary to point this out to another player here, in the thread, it's not revealing information about their role; it's information obtained through deduction.

And you're ignoring the fact that votes can be gathered for Torian, but not for Hosa?

I also wrote a lot about it, but you preferred to ignore it, but I didn't pay much attention to it because it's not an argument.

But they will definitely recruit, according to your words.

Revealing any role or elements of a role, even with hints, is one of the most serious violations. And deduction had nothing to do with it – the GM announced it. Okay, there's no point in discussing the past game.

And why did it turn out that way? Because initially, they said, "we won't get enough votes for Hosa, let's execute Toria." I don't remember who voted that way when the number of votes was equal. And, by the way, nothing prevents me from voting during the day. Let the vote hang, and by the end of the day, it might not be necessary to execute Toria.

I only ignored one of your posts – your opinion about the alliance. Because before that, I already decided it was necessary to close this topic, because because of it, the day could end in a no-no-vote (NNV). If votes accumulate, I will gladly continue the discussion, if you don't mind.

Because of "your words"? You don't need to automatically put Hosa and me on the same team and equate our opinions. If I want a truce with the psychomafia, it doesn't mean that I belong to it myself. And Hosa, by the way, didn't talk about the 100% probability of recruiting. It was about the fact that at least one recruitable role has been revealed, and therefore this move is quite likely. But I equally consider the possibility of killing + depriving of a vote until the end of the game/blocking until the end of the game. Recruiting just looks better, at least for now.

I wasn't talking about Bovblob, I was talking about the current situation. And about the fact that here it definitely does not constitute a violation, i.e., it is perfectly legal and realistic.

Heh, okay. But, if you're a mafia member, I think you understand that with the options "execute Toria" / "execute no one" and the second option being chosen, you will be revealed.

Based on "your own" assumptions? There's no need to automatically put me and Khos on the same team and equate our opinions. If I want a truce with the psychomafia, that doesn't mean I'm one of them.

If enough votes are gathered, I'll gladly continue the discussion, if you don't mind.

But that's not the case. Once the doctor-killers and the maniac are eliminated, there might not be anything left to discuss.

And think about it: in a game where most of it is based on deception, you're proposing such a difficult task that primarily depends on the honesty of one of the mafias. Not to mention that, apart from one town member (let's assume you're the guard; I'm not ruling out either version), no one supported this "alliance."
Also, the maniac is completely forgotten, who, according to the victory conditions, can win together with the town. Why is it excluded that, in the event of the doctor-killers being in a bad position, he will switch to the town's side? For him, this is the only right option, and in this case, the chance of "betrayal" is much lower than with the psychomafia.
During the day, it is proposed to hang only the doctor-killers and the maniac. Why not organize the execution of Khostor right now (based on his status and the priest's note, he can't be anyone other than a psychomafia member), so that his comrades disrupt the execution and, as a result, lose half of their most dangerous ability, which, after the elimination of the doctor-killers and the maniac, will be the main problem for the town and will lead to a "draw." If he turns out to be Radonar, even better, "let's level the playing field between the town and the psychomafia." And at night, let the psychomafia kill the "evil doctor Toriy." Whether they are in an alliance with the town or not, they are not fools and will not fail to kill members of a competing mafia.

I'm not insisting, I'm just considering other options; it's unclear why there's such a focus on only one version.

Because we have a truce.

Regarding Mana – I wouldn't mind him joining, if it weren't for the fact that he initially wanted to be our enemy.

Didn't see anything new. It's the same old thing again - "trust me, the Mafia wouldn't do that."

Who are "we" referring to? You and the Mafia?

Did he write this to you in ICQ?
Besides, I repeat, even if he initially planned to win with doctor-killers, nothing prevents him from changing his decision.

In each of my games, except for my first, I tried to play in an unconventional way. A self-planned death on day 27 to identify the Mafia killer; appealing to the Moderator and making peace with him on day 28; an interesting approach on day 29, where all daytime votes belonged to my team – no executions harmed us (and also a successful leak on the very first day, although this wasn't as impressive considering there were three Mafia members); an unconventional move of nominating Ara as the leader of the opposing Mafia and proposing an alliance on day 30; saving a player from execution when the entire town was against him, except for me (I'm not saying I didn't make a mistake, but the fact that I saved him in that situation was interesting), followed by an interesting plan in day 31. Now there's a chance to win spectacularly here and now, in day 32, and I haven't heard of any precedents for such a victory.

Who is "us"? You and the Mafia?

The city and the psychomafia.

Are there any arguments, or just fear of being deceived?

Given that it's already clear to everyone that Ar is the main world, I'm going to add you to the list of highly suspected individuals.

Are you the whole city? No, you're just one player.

What arguments could there be against trusting a plan that is based on "trust" in the mafia? %) There should be real arguments for it, not "it's a cool, unconventional move, and the mafia won't betray us."