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Heroes of Might and Magic IV is...
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Multiple choice Closed 2006-02-20
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A revolution in the series
28.6% 6 votes
Favorite game in the series
9.5% 2 votes
Failed experiment
52.4% 11 votes
They aren't heroes at all (what were NWC thinking?)
0% 0 votes
Just an upgrade for HoMM3
0% 0 votes
Other (please specify)
19% 4 votes
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CTPAHHuK
So, let me introduce myself, I'm a hardcore fan of Heroes 4 :cool:. I'll try to fend off all attacks, even if it costs me everything :D
Uke-by_HoMM![Zavulon]
I agree with all three points on the list.
1) I have control over the game. Almost at any moment, I can change the direction of development, and the control over the game – which doesn't force me into any constraints – never disappears.
2) It's definitely true that the game is addictive; otherwise, it would be like studying at university just for the diploma :) . And I can confidently say that this game completely captivates me, and many others. It's impossible to describe the excitement during a 10-hour game on a medium-sized map ;)
3) I agree, but not entirely. "Everything" can be harmful in any game. Every gamer has a desire to make at least something better. Although, overall, Heroes 4 completely satisfies me.
It should be noted that all of this is my subjective opinion, and as statistics show, you are right; most Heroes fans prefer the third game, or now the fifth game ;)
No, I'm not saying that Heroes 4 doesn't deserve to exist and breathe fresh air :) (I myself was a fan of the fourth game for some time;) ) Then I got hooked on the third game again, and I didn't mean to offend anyone; this is just my IMHO.
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Interesting question. I am more than certain that ZDO didn't fall apart because of those 4 heroes; many people bought them (including myself). So, what was the real reason?
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No, guys, I can't agree with you. I don't think the developers were trying to move away from the established turn-based strategy genre and create something similar to a turn-based RPG. And even more so, the game wasn't an unsuccessful experiment that led to the collapse of 3DO. It was 3DO's financial difficulties that prevented them from completing the game, and they had to release such a "miracle" as Heroes of Might and Magic version 1.1, which didn't even support multiplayer.

The result was a truly disgusting mix of genres (they didn't want it, but it happened). Maybe "disgusting" is not the right word, it's a bit harsh, but you can't call it "tolerable"...

No one blames 4th for the collapse of 3DO, because no one forced them to make hasty decisions and actions.

I'm probably repeating myself again, but unfortunately, the 4th installment deviates from the Might and Magic series, which is why gamers don't like it. Let's say if this were the first game in the series, it would be very good, but since there are previous projects... they only get the status of an unsuccessful experiment (in the general opinion). ;)
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Uke-by_HoMM! [Zavulon]
Interesting question. I'm more than sure that 3DO didn't collapse because of the four Heroes games, as many people bought them (including me). So, what was the real reason?
It was precisely because of the fourth installment. The game didn't recoup its costs, let alone generate a profit, and the greedy investors tore the poor 3DO apart:mad:
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It was all because of the fourth installment. The game didn't recoup its costs, let alone make a profit, and the greedy investors tore the poor 3DO apart:mad:
Was anyone forcing them to act the way they did? It could have been any other game... 3DO destroyed itself; there's no need to blame Heroes IV. The fact that the game didn't find (or almost didn't find) its audience isn't its fault, but the fault of the developers. Why release an unanalyzed game, in terms of gamer interests, :confused:
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Was anyone forcing them to act the way they did? It could have been any other game... 3It destroyed itself. There's no point in blaming Heroes 4. The fact that the game didn't find (or almost didn't find) its audience isn't its fault, but the fault of the developers. Why release an unanalyzed game, in terms of gamer interests, in the first place? :confused:
But it was already mentioned above. They didn't have the money.
Interesting question. I'm more than sure that ZDO didn't fall apart because of Heroes 4, because many people bought it (including me). So, what was the reason?
Might and Magic 9 also contributed. Which turned out to be a huge failure in the series.
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But it was already mentioned above. There was no money.

Also, Might and Magic 9 helped. Which turned out to be a huge failure in the series.
I am more than sure that they tactfully covered up the lack of money. In reality, there probably was money; for such a project as Heroes, they had to find the money... and the fact that it didn't pay off is another matter, and even this can be called a reason for the ruin only relatively, because Heroes 4 was bought by not so few people as everyone thinks...
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I am more than sure that they tactfully used the lack of money as an excuse. In reality, there were definitely funds available; for a project like Heroes, they had to find the money... And the fact that it didn't pay off is a different matter, and even that can be considered a relative reason for the failure, because Heroes 4 was bought by quite a few people, contrary to what everyone thinks...
What about the tight deadlines? If they had the money, Heroes 4 could have been released now instead of Heroes 5. Or do the developers just have nothing better to do than mess around?
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What about the tight deadlines?
What tight deadlines? :confused: In the February 2002 issue of Strana Igr magazine (if I'm not mistaken), it was stated that the release of the fourth installment of Heroes was scheduled for the end of July 2002, but it was released in the 20th of March!!! This means that they didn't seem to be short on time, IMHO.
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What kind of tight deadlines are we talking about??? :confused: In the February issue of Страна Игр magazine in 2002 (if I'm not mistaken), it was said that the release of the fourth Heroes game was scheduled for the end of July 2002, but the release was in the 20th of March!!! This means that they didn't spare any time, IMHO.
This means that they released the game on the market 4 months earlier than they should have! A similar situation almost happened with the 5th Heroes game, when the release was somehow scheduled for March, even though the game was very unfinished at that time. And, as you know, only the Heroes Community demanded that the release of the game be postponed to a later date and in a more decent state. My point is that companies, releasing games on the market for the sake of profit in a certain quarter, do not think about their quality, because then they can release patches for the games! That's what happened back in 2002. The game was simply thrown out, in an attempt to get at least some money for their own demise... however sad it may sound.
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This means they rushed the game onto the market 4 months earlier than they should have! A similar situation almost happened with the 5 Heroes, when the release was inexplicably scheduled for March, even though the game was very unfinished at the time. And, as you know, it was only the Heroes community that demanded the release be postponed to a later date and in a more polished state. My point is that companies, when releasing games to the market for profit in a specific quarter, don't think about their quality, because they can always release patches for the games later! That's what happened back in 2002. The game was simply thrown out there in an attempt to get at least some money for their own demise... however sad that may sound.
Well, everything is correct, it's just that now, at least, the developers can listen to fan opinions, but before, such an opportunity was given to very few, which is a pity...
The only difference is that it's too late to radically change the game, and it's not even necessary, because the 5th installment is very good (perhaps even excellent)... but if there had been such a forum back in 2001, the 4th installment would have been even better.
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Guys, let's discuss Heroes 4. :cool:
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They could have given them some kind of magic, like in the third game.
to Celt
Barbarians don't need magic, it's like giving a fish an umbrella. After all, they are barbarians and reject any magic.
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then something like special attacks...
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then something like special attacks...
But why do they need special attacks when they already have various wrestling arenas and other similar structures. And magic nullifiers are a headache for Barbarians and Mages.

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