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Offline Arandor
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Hmm... I don't even know. Is it not too easy for the first day? Although, if a clue can point to two suspects equally, then maybe it could be. I don't really trust these clues, because new versions might appear over time.

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Offline Amko
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What are you talking about, what's NNV? Expensive mechanical watches -> Swiss (definitely not a poor country) watch company Omega -> Prince_Omega. Execute the Prince. ps
folding knife "Oyazumi"
What a joker.

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I like the version with Vishem less, and again, the fact that Switzerland is a rich country.
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Offline ОMEGA
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Execute Omega, execute Omega. Whenever something goes wrong, they immediately blame me. Look at Vegtam's signature: "Time will not heal all of your pain"; maybe we should execute him?

"Let's fly to the most beautiful sky. No matter how many times your wings break, keep trying."©Crono Crusade

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Offline RiMpel2
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Have you gotten used to looking for something deep down, and no longer accept superficial things as evidence?

Execute the Prince!
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Amko
I like the version with Vishem even less, and again, the fact that Switzerland is a rich country.
But what does a rich country have to do with expensive watches? :smile21: And by the way, Fortress is produced by an Anglo-Swiss company.

I've never seen such blatant marketing before.
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Offline Dgak
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Hi everyone.
Thanks to those who are sorting through the "garbage" in the results of the first night. Not much is clear.
As I understand it, there are two obvious clues: (garbage bins and a watch).
It doesn't make sense for the Mafia to plant garbage as a clue, and this may indicate a Neutral player (I somewhat agree with this).
So, the second clue – the watch – is a planted one, right? Please explain this point.
2. Planting clues at night – it's clear that it's either random or to confuse everyone. I can only vouch for myself.
3. I like the idea that there was only one murder, meaning that someone from the "blocked" or "scared" players didn't kill (can "scared" players kill?). And in general, the already "BLOCKED" Slonysh could be a Mafia member because, as I understand it, a Mafia order is not necessarily a Neutral action, and of course, the Mafia sent a Mafia member on the mission. But here's the thing: a Mafia member might receive, for example, two orders, in which either the same person is targeted (could it be Liz??? No... pfffff) or one order targets the Mafia member himself, and as I understand it, in this case, the Mafia member may not go on the mission. But that's where the fun begins. The Mafia member also wants to kill. Or maybe he was also going to target Liz, but someone else got there first (even though he goes earlier), or he was blocked. Hi, Slonysh. Don't kill me tonight, okay? *)
I'll drop by later – I won't leave a voice message for now. I'm waiting for the Mafia to reveal themselves.
ВАГИАНТ!Отчасти вампир, отчасти гигант.
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Offline Nyashechka Kavai
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I don't understand why there's so much hype around the mercenary role, as he essentially wins along with the town. Yes, he has a high chance of killing an innocent, but under certain conditions, we'll simply need him.

I believe the deceased was actually a private detective. The description and its sequence point to that. Although the vagrant option is also possible, as the homeless person was collaborating with the detective.

Regarding the Prince's accusations, I'd like to know what kind of difficulties are anticipated with the evidence. I don't want to make a drastic mistake and execute an innocent person.
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Offline Happy Life
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Slonysh
After the murder, the following should remain:
1. A hint about the role of the deceased
2. A clue from the GM
3. An additional clue from the murderer (optional)

I don't see the third detail (this doesn't mean it doesn't exist, of course), so in the "trash cans" and "expensive watches," I see a clue from the GM and an indication of the murderer's role.

I repeat once again: since there are no watchmakers among the roles, I assume it's a vagrant. If I'm wrong, find me another indication of the Lizard's role, and we'll discuss it.
Essentially, this is the version that has already been mentioned here: that the Lizard was the detective, and the Mafia shot him. Then, either the trash can serves as artistic embellishment, or it is a clue, and the watch was planted.
I don't think Rhev was high while writing the newspaper.
He was writing it at three in the morning.
Neyra Drake
Are you saying that the cop started ordering the murder from day one? That's stupid and risky. And without his orders, the killer has the right not to act.
Neyrochka, you ignored my paragraph for you in one of the posts, or did you not place the order?
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Offline Arandor
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As I understand it, there are two obvious clues: the trash cans and the watch.
There's no point in the Mafia planting a clue related to trash, so it likely points to the Vagrant.

If something points to a role, then it isn't a clue. Therefore, the watch is the clue, and nothing was planted.

Perhaps going into Night Neutral Vote (NNV) right now is actually the best solution, to see what happens at night. If the Detective is still alive, it means the trash cans were a clue pointing to the Vagrant, and then the watch is a clue from the Game Master (GM). If the Detective is not alive, it means he's dead (maybe blocked), and the trash cans could also be a clue. In this case, we need to think about who could have planted the clues. In my opinion, not many players are capable of doing that.

And also, if the Detective is alive and all his actions are described so openly, then as soon as the girl is found, it will immediately become clear who she is, because after she's found, the Detective stops moving. Although he could just be killed, so there won't be any moves. So, I'm saying that Revan could have described his Night Detective (ND) actions so openly because he's dead and it no longer matters how his turn is described.

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Offline Слоныш
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Dgak

As I understand it, there are two obvious clues: (garbage cans and a watch)
There's no point in the Mafia planting garbage as a clue, and this might indicate a vagrant (I somewhat agree with this)
So, is the second clue – the watch – also planted? Please explain this point.
"Planting a garbage can at the crime scene" – that sounds funny. :D If there were an additional role, there would be three items in the descriptions, along with an indication of the role – most likely, a watch from the GM.
Dgak

3. I like the idea that there was only one murder, meaning that someone from the blocked/scared players didn't kill (can scared players kill?) and that the blocked Slonysh might be the Mafia because, as I understand it, a Mafia order is not an NK (night kill) and, of course, the Mafia sent a Mafia member on the mission. But in this case, the Mafia member receives, for example, 2 orders, in which either the same person (could it be Liz??? No... pff) or one order is for the Mafia member himself, and as I understand it, in this case, the Mafia member doesn't have to go out. But that's where the fun begins. The Mafia member also wants to shoot. Or he was also going to Liz, but someone got there first (even though he goes out earlier), or he's blocked.
Listen, maybe someone will read this thread, right? No offense.
By the way, a mercenary is not a Mafia member (as I said before... um... Impresio, if I'm not mistaken?) => he doesn't "want to shoot."
People have already written about the possibility of matching orders.
Dgak

Hi Slonysh. Don't kill me tonight, okay? *)
Hi, prophet! What's up, will our Messiah arrive soon? :smile23:
Dgak

I'm waiting for the Mafia to reveal themselves.
What are you waiting for? They've already revealed themselves.
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Offline Небо
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Amko showed up and gave himself away, and RiMpel2 did too (how do you spell the nickname correctly?).
Arandor wrote a good response; I think that's how it should be handled.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Offline Amko
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What does a wealthy country and expensive watches have to do with it?
In my opinion, the connection is more than obvious. It's very strange that you don't see it.

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You have two candidates, and you're suggesting a non-negotiable vote? You're crazy.
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Offline Небо
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We know your candidates, I've figured you out, ah-ha-ha!!!!11 You gave them a watch and now you want to execute them for it!!!!!11 Although the evidence against Omega is really quite compelling.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Offline Gil4
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Amko

[/U]You have two candidates, and you're suggesting an NNV (No Night Vote)? You're delusional.
Forgive me, but based on my experience from the previous game, I know very well that it's beneficial for the Mafia to eliminate players on the first day. And even then, I eliminated poor Nera (by the way, Nera, I'm sorry, it was necessary) when the probability of her being Mafia was around 7 out of 9, and you're trying to eliminate a player based on such a superficial clue.



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Offline RiMpel2
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Sky
how do you write the nickname correctly?

Rimpel, Rimp, whatever you want, kid :p

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Gil4
la-la-la... you're trying to trick the player with such a superficial clue.

Okay boss, waiting for a clue with a link to the profile :rolleyes:
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