The second tournament for Heroes of Might and Magic II! — Tournament history (offline)

Alan

19 years ago

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Kyle;46216

I'm participating in the tournament... if, of course, no one objects....
I'll try to send the save file as soon as possible...

No one objects, I'm waiting for the save file.

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PALADIN

19 years ago

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Alan;44722

If anyone else encounters the same problem, please let me know. I sent a clean save file without an archive to your inbox. I was using WinRAR 3.60. The link works for me, and the file opens, so it might be a problem specific to Paladin.

Thank you. I received the save file. I tried to open it with WinZip, according to the specified extension... :(
Please specify which program you used to open the archive in the post where the file is uploaded. Also, I would like to receive the map!
However, I have serious doubts about whether I will be able to participate. :(

Alan

19 years ago

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The save file was archived using Winrar 3.60, with a .zip extension, because this forum doesn't allow attaching .rar archives (which is strange). And what do you need the map for, if I may ask? The save file should work fine as is.
You should definitely participate; there's still plenty of time left before the submission deadline.

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nprf

19 years ago

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Alan;46276

The save file was archived using Winrar 3.60, with a .zip extension, as this forum doesn't allow attaching archives in .rar format (which is strange). And what do you need the map for, if you don't mind me asking? The save file will work fine as is.
And you should definitely participate; there's still plenty of time before the submission deadline.

PALADIN was referring to post #2 in this thread!
That is, the description of the archive should be where you downloaded it from.
And I would really like the map. It's not just a habit; I also want to add it to my map collection!

But I hardly have time to play; there are too

Alan

19 years ago

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Got it, I added it to the second post. As for the map, I can share it if you want. You can change the map name within the game in Heroes II, but not the file name in the folder, so the map I modified it from will be replaced. If you're interested, let me know, and I'll send it to your email, or when I have access to the computer I used to create it, I'll attach it to post number two.

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Pred

19 years ago

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I'll give it a try too!
The first tournament didn't work out for me.
The map was quite challenging. And I thought I couldn't play Heroes of Might and Magic II, but it turned out that was the intended difficulty, and my result was actually quite good.

Qwerty

19 years ago

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Alan, to ensure a level playing field for all players, please either make the map available to everyone or (preferably) refrain from providing it to anyone until the tournament is over, so there is no temptation to play with the map instead of a save file. Otherwise, we will have to check each save file to verify whether the players actually started from a save or from the map.

Alan

19 years ago

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My computer, where the old versions of the game are stored, crashed, so I won't be able to upload the map right now, even if I wanted to... But I agree with QWERTY that it's not worth uploading the map before the end of the tournament. After that, I'll share it with whoever wants it; the information is still on the computer, I just need to retrieve it, then format and reinstall everything.

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nprf

19 years ago

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Qwerty;46331

Alan, to ensure all players have equal opportunities, please either post the map for everyone or (preferably) refrain from providing it to anyone until the tournament ends, so there is no temptation to play with the map instead of a save file. Otherwise, we will have to check each save file to verify whether they started with a save file or with the map.

I am in favor of having the map available. Moreover, as far as I remember, it is a standard map! Although, in this case, it is not really needed. The save file is very simple.
I didn't understand the point about starting with the map. And what is the temptation?
Besides, it will be immediately obvious, as many things will change...

Qwerty

19 years ago

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The map will be available, but after the tournament results are finalized. The map is indeed a standard one, but it has been modified in the editor.

PALADIN

19 years ago

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Qwerty;43929

Tournament rules for speed runs.

2. The following is prohibited in tournaments:

2) Using a redeemed, escaped, or bought-out hero in the same day they escaped or were bought out in battle. Buying such a hero is allowed, but they can only be used on the following day;

Please clarify. What is the reason for this rule?
In my patched version, the bug that allowed increasing a hero's turn in this way has been removed. Therefore, this rule applies to Platinum from Booy. I can provide save files to prove this. Simply move the hero with the necessary skills to the desired location and buy a new hero in the Castle, who will then defend that Castle!

And another question. Does the final save necessarily have to be won on auto-battle? I can't do that, and should I wait an extra day?

Also, an important point. The game is won by advancing the day with a defensive battle in your home Castle. Which day is considered in this case?
Again, the computer doesn't always attack the Castle, and it's not always possible to win the game on auto-battle. The probability is around 30 percent.

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Qwerty;46331

Alan, to ensure all players are on equal footing, please either post the map for everyone or (preferably) refrain from providing it to anyone until the end of the tournament (to avoid the temptation to play from the map instead of from the save). Otherwise, we will have to check each save to see if they really started from the save or from the map.

The map is standard, and theoretically, it is possible to start from the map anyway. Of course, this is prohibited by the rules, and such saves will not be accepted!
But we will still have to check, but there is a very noticeable difference in the center of the map, and we need to look in a different place.

Alan

19 years ago

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2 Paladin
I'll answer about the map first. The center has been significantly changed, and the starting position won't work; besides, I don't think anyone needs it. Digging is just for fun; the goal is to eliminate everyone. But if an artifact is dug up, I'll need a save from the day of the excavation with the entire puzzle map revealed.

Now about the save: it's not necessary to be on auto-battle. If the battle is won easily manually, just send it, and I'll finish it myself. If the outcome depends on luck/morale, send a detailed turn-by-turn account so I can repeat the sequence.
An important point: you're sending me a winning save, and THAT day will be the winning day. If there

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PALADIN

19 years ago

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Alan;47118

2 Paladin

Now regarding the save file, it's not necessary to have it for auto-battles. If the battle is won manually and relatively easily, just send me the save file. If the outcome depends on luck or morale, send me a detailed breakdown of the turns so I can replicate the sequence.
An important point: you're sending me a save file from a winning day, and THAT day will be considered the winning day. If there's a reflected attack, but you don't have a save file for the following day, it means the victory was on the day BEFORE the attack.

Understood!
But I'll try to replay it again, as the result isn't very satisfying yet.

Qwerty

19 years ago

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2 PALADIN
This rule was borrowed from other rule sets. And I fully agree with it. Before the tournament, the rules were discussed, and the version we see now was approved by the majority. If you buy out your hero, you cannot move him.
You cannot start with a map that has graveyards on it, as this will result in disqualification.

Prorock

19 years ago

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Hello everyone.

Today I looked at the map and was amazed!:):):)

The map is really cool, but nothing brilliant comes to mind right away for its FAST completion...

It's just chaotic, and it's difficult to find the grain of truth in this chaos...
But that's its THING - let's see what happens!;)

Sincerely,
Prorock.

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