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WhiteLizard

3/19/2011 9:33 PM UTC

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The point isn't in the topics, Ar, and I don't think your conversational partner will appreciate it if you constantly argue with them. Topics eventually run out.
The key to "wit" implies communicating based on the situation. For example, you're walking down the street with a girl and you see a bus with a sushi advertisement. You can ask if she likes sushi, and then, perhaps, the conversation will turn to Japan, from Japan to earthquakes, and so on. In other words, the conversation is structured like a tree grows – a trunk grows, branches grow from it, more branches grow from those branches, and so on, branching out to form a crown. Thus, your conversational path goes from the trunk to the thinnest twig, and the entire crown with thousands of twigs represents your conversational possibilities.
And, of course, in addition to using a logical chain, the emotional and personal aspect is important, as is non-verbal communication. In any mutual conversation, you always have to touch upon the personality of the conversational partner and their reaction. And based on their reaction, you should adjust your own.
Well, I wrote it a bit complicated. In reality, you just need to show wit and be cheerful. :)

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Небо

3/19/2011 9:34 PM UTC

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ISTJ

a socionic type, assuming the dichotomy of the Myers-Briggs typology "perceiving-judging" is replaced with "irrationality-rationality"

Maxim Gorky (Logical-Sensory Introvert, LSI)

Main dichotomies

Judging 12 - Perceiving 8
Extraversion 5 - Introversion 5
Sensing 12 - Intuition 8
Logic 14 - Ethics 6

Description of ISTJ - THE GUARDIAN

Interesting test, not quite accurate, but close.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Arandor

3/19/2011 9:43 PM UTC

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Regarding "arguing," I mentioned it just as an example; I personally don't enjoy it.

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Lizzy, who are you writing this for? Because I don't know how the conversation is going. I usually jump from one topic to another. You won't believe it, but the same thing happens with my thoughts!

Be strong. Believe

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Amko

3/19/2011 9:47 PM UTC

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Sky

Interesting test, not quite accurate, but close.

I got a similar result for the Lizardfolk test; overall, it's more fitting than not.

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Imaris

3/19/2011 9:59 PM UTC

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No, Liz, I'm not Yesenin. He wrote poems, and I can't. And I doubt he was as dark inside and as hypocritical on the outside as I am. Although, maybe I exaggerated a bit (underestimated, rather), but the gist is approximately that.

Happy Life

3/19/2011 10:23 PM UTC

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What can you talk about?
About topics that are interesting to us. Why talk about topics that don't interest us?

One of the main mistakes of introverted individuals, which prevents them from functioning fully, is extreme egocentrism. A short-sighted introvert never grows out of the childish "I want ice cream, Mom, buy me ice cream, Mom, buy me a toy." Indeed, initial contact with strangers doesn't bring any benefit; it's stressful, a struggle to force some words out of one's introverted self. Why bother when you can stand in a corner and listen to symphonic power metalcore, and then sit at home at the computer? Having overcome the initial barrier, an adequate person will be glad to see their new acquaintances; they will have company, interests, communication, activities, and maybe even a friendship that lasts for many years. But a reclusive person will continue to wander around like a dusty bag, forever alone, and convince themselves that they are fine.

Longer conversations tire him, but this does not indicate a poor inner world. He thinks a lot and about many things, for example.

What's the point of his reasoning if there's no one to share and discuss it with? In general, this is about silent, nerdy people.

Some can even manage without words and understand each other perfectly.

A myth. Similar to the myth about a soulmate and perfect love that will fall from the sky right into your hands. IMHO!!1

The latest news, for example, or something else, but of course, without going into detail, because I am not a specialist. I can discuss space exploration, medicine, or something else. And again, I went to a museum, and there is a topic for discussion; we can argue about what we saw there and so on.

An earthquake is bad. Space exploration and medicine are good. Cool dishes in the museum, I would like to have one at home.
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I love bananas.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

Imaris

3/19/2011 10:40 PM UTC

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symphonic power metalcore

Wow, that would be interesting; I haven't listened to anything like that.

convincing yourself that he's already doing well

I'm not doing well.

quiet, nerdy people.

All quiet people are definitely nerds, right?

Myth

Maybe.

Earthquakes are bad. Space exploration and medicine are good. Cool dishes in the museum; I'd like to have some at home.

And you, apparently, just want to start arguments.

A nearsighted introvert never grew out of the childish "I want ice cream, Mom, buy me ice cream, Mom, buy me a toy."

I don't understand.
And in general, you should explain everything that's above. You just wrote it as a fact.

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a brutal test with 70 questions

INFP

a socionic type, assuming the dichotomy of the Myers-Briggs typology "perceiving-judging" is replaced with "irrationality-rationality"

Yesenin (Intuitive-Ethical, IEI)

Main dichotomies

Judging 5 - Perceiving 15
Extraversion 4 - Introversion 6
Sensing 8 - Intuition 12
Logic 10 - Ethics 10

Description of INFP - ROMANTIC

Heh-heh, Liz was right, maybe.
But I haven't read the description yet; I'll get to it now.)

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I read the description. It's mostly lying.
Stupid tests

Happy Life

3/19/2011 10:44 PM UTC

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Oh, this sociometry of yours. It used to identify me as a Balzac, after seventy questions it identified me as Gaben, and after checking boxes, it identified me as Gorky. It’s impossible to figure out who I am, neither fish nor fowl. Ha-ha, clearly not Gorky. By the way, Yesenins are whiners and weaklings.

I feel bad, but I can't get out of this mess :'-(

-_-

Unclear.

Well, I guess I overestimated you.

My sword, my trusted ally, unphased by my aspect.

Arandor

3/19/2011 11:05 PM UTC

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Yesenin (Intuitive-Ethical, IEI) Main dichotomies Decisive 9 - Perceiving 11 Extraversion 5 - Introversion 5 Sensing 8 - Intuition 12 Logic 9 - Ethics 11 Description of INFP - ROMANTIC Added 1 minute ago INFP - are calm, reserved, and even shy people. Although at first glance they seem unapproachable, this is not the case. INFPs have the ability to care for the people close to them, and in their care, they are devoted to the end. The same can be said about the world of INFP ideas. "Idealist," "romantic" - these are the words that describe INFP. Sometimes this characteristic distances INFPs from people. INFPs possess a strong sense of honor and self-worth. They seek wholeness in their lives, the unity of body and soul, emotions and intellect. Something tragic is present in the fate of INFPs, but those around them rarely notice this. INFP's devotion to the cause of good and justice leads to a complete rejection of everything bad, which in turn can lead to a struggle against all sorts of evil. Thus, there is a certain duality in the nature of INFPs, striving for good and looking back at all that is dark and evil.

Be strong. Believe

Вегтам

3/20/2011 4:19 AM UTC

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Yesenin (Intuitive-Ethical, IEI)

Key dichotomies

Decisive 9 - Perceptive 11
Extraversion 5 - Introversion 5
Sensing 4 - Intuition 16
Logic 8 - Ethics 12

Dddddda!
Especially the equality of extraversion and introversion.

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!

Siverfale

3/20/2011 6:48 AM UTC

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The key to "wittiness" implies communication based on the situation. For example, you're walking down the street with a girl and see a bus with a sushi advertisement. You can ask if she likes sushi, and then the conversation might shift to Japan, from Japan to earthquakes, and so on. In other words, the conversation is structured in the same way a tree grows – a trunk grows, branches sprout from it, more branches grow from those branches, and so on, branching out to form a crown. Thus, your conversation path goes from the trunk to the thinnest twig, and the entire crown with thousands of twigs represents your conversation possibilities.

You are, of course, right, but Loki wrote, "Lololo, silent, uncultured nerds have no topics for conversation because their interests are limited." Get it? And you can have a conversation in the way you described practically without any interests at all.
And yes, it's better to take psychological tests with 100 questions or more. The result will be much more accurate, if you are interested in it, of course.

Where do we go?
Where do we end up when we save the world?

WhiteLizard

3/20/2011 10:38 AM UTC

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You are absolutely right, but Loki wrote: “Olololo, silent redneck nerds have no topics for conversation because their interests are limited.”

It can’t possibly be true that a person is naturally completely uninteresting and has no interests; it's absurd. So, Loki was just carried away by trolling.

By the way, Yesenins are whiners and weaklings.

HNXYЯ, they are cheerful and positive. And you, by the way, are a gloomy Balzac.

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Imaris

3/20/2011 10:52 AM UTC

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It's impossible for a person to be completely uninterested in everything and have no hobbies; that's just silly. So, Lock simply got carried away with trolling.

Maybe I'm almost like that.

WhiteLizard

3/20/2011 10:59 AM UTC

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well, you're into pedophilia and gothic stuff, so something must interest you.

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Imaris

3/20/2011 11:38 AM UTC

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that's why I said "almost")
also
pedophilia is not a hobby, but a sexual orientation
gothic - it's being a nerd))

I enjoy listening to music. I will never get tired of it, it will never bore me)
hmm. A hobby is something that, if taken away, will make you feel down and want to return to it. You will want to return to it yourself. It's not some kind of addiction (like drugs or MMORPGs)
If music is taken away from me, I will feel down. If something else is taken away, I probably won't miss it much. That's sad.

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