Who thinks that an army is unnecessary? — Everything about everything.

Happy Life

15 years ago

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Yeah, right, real men are those morally degenerate brutes they become in the army these days, even if they weren't like that before.
You wouldn't understand how it feels to waste a year of your life, needlessly ruining yourself.

They just don't truly understand what the army is.

Another social institution where soldiers are made to dig trenches from dawn till dusk, and are also taught how to wash and mend clothes, clean the territory and premises, peel potatoes, basic hand-to-hand combat, physical training, subordination, and other things that not every nerdy student is capable of doing on their own. Of course, the army, like prison, has a strict collective, and if you're constantly being dunked in the toilet or getting beaten more often than others, it's because you deserve it. High self-esteem, disregard for camaraderie, snitching, passive acceptance of humiliation, disrespect for fellow soldiers – all these things are unacceptable for a warrior and simply for a noble person who respects himself, and must be punished.

And again, the army isn't as terrible as it's portrayed by overly sentimental mothers raising girls. And when you see a video of someone urinating on a new recruit, know that it's justified.
The army of the nineties (like the prison of the nineties) was a real hell compared to the current situation.

NikBond

15 years ago

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Okay. Let's incorporate American traditions. Although, no, European traditions would be better.

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Amko

15 years ago

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NikBond

Okay, let's introduce American traditions. Although, no, European traditions would be better.

And I'm all for peace and love!!

And you're all nasty militarists! :smile31:

NikBond

15 years ago

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Another social institution where soldiers are made to dig trenches from dawn till dusk, and are also taught how to wash and mend clothes, clean the territory and premises, peel tubers, learn basic hand-to-hand combat, physical education, subordination, and other things that not every hardcore student can do on their own.

Which, who knows why and who it's even needed for.

Of course, in the army, as in prison, the collective is strict, and if you are being dunked in the toilet or punched in the liver more often than others, then it's for a reason.

This isn't democratic. And it's illegal. And immoral. And another 100,500 smart words. In short, it's not good.
And in general, why are you so sure that it's justified? In school, (people like you) beat the weak just because they are weak. Is that justified? Ugh, disgusting.

Happy Life

15 years ago

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Which, frankly, no one needs or wants.

But if NATO attacks you, you'll know! And if you become a general and want to build a dacha, you'll know! And if you get stuck doing paperwork at the housing management office and need electricians and plumbers, you'll know!

That's not democratic. And it's illegal. And immoral. And 100,500 other smart words. In short, it's not right.
And besides, why are you so sure it's justified? In school, (people like you) bully the weak just because they're weak. Is that justified? Ugh, disgusting.

Reread the list of negative traits and actions described in post #121. Those are the things that are disgusting.

NikBond

15 years ago

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But if NATO attacks you, you'll know!

I'll surrender and ask to be re-educated as an American.

But if you become a general, and want to build a dacha, you'll know!

I'll become a programmer, and if I want to create a remake of "Heroes," why should I need to know that?

But if you get stuck with paperwork in the housing management office, you'll need electricians and plumbers, and you'll know!

WTF? It seems like housing maintenance services, private companies, and asking Uncle Vasya, the neighbor, for a bottle of vodka, haven't been canceled yet.

Reread the list of negative traits and actions described in post #121. That's what's disgusting.

Let's break it down point by point. But a little later.

Небо

15 years ago

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It's a pity that you, esteemed **NikBond**, were born in our time; it's a great pity. Although, perhaps it was time itself that made you the way you are.

NikBond

15 years ago

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High self-esteem,

but what if everyone around you in the army is just dumb and uncouth, and you're the only normal one?

sycophancy

in simple terms, please. If it implies theft, then yes.

not resisting humiliation

WTF, what is that?

disrespect for fellow soldiers,

they are all just dumb and uncouth and don't deserve more.

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Sky

It's a pity that you, dear NikBond, were born in our time, it's a great pity. Although maybe it's the time itself that made you like this.

And when should I have been born?

Небо

15 years ago

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In the 1920s and 1930s.

Brackman

15 years ago

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What an interesting example of a modern intellectual! Why are you so harsh with him? Sky, Lock, please don't. I think Mr. NickBond has the right to his own, undoubtedly liberal, point of view. Please continue, Mr. NickBond. And by the way, would you mind telling us what your education is?

Happy Life

15 years ago

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WTF? It seems like housing maintenance services, private companies, and even asking your neighbor Uncle Vasya for a bottle of vodka haven't been canceled yet.

Housing maintenance doesn't employ elite specialists in the field of building services, and Uncle Vasya, for a bottle of vodka, will do such a

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that no housing maintenance will accept your complaint afterward.

But what if everyone around you in the army is just stupid, and you're the only normal one?

That's exactly it. All that's left for a normal person to do is to meekly polish their glasses.

Yes.

Study the meaning of the word in two years in Russian.

Yes, most likely that's the case.

Небо

15 years ago

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Brak, are you back again, and for how long?

Happy Life

15 years ago

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Well, well, look who we have here. Come on in, buddy, let's hang out. And don't touch that one; he's just passing through and living off his own fat. He did lose a bit of weight on Archi, and also in the section for the sixth game, so I don't know what he's hoping to get here. This is a feeding trough for the poor.

Brackman

15 years ago

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I don't know, esteemed gentlemen, whether I'll be around for long or not. It depends. I'll appear from time to time, with breaks.

And Mr. Nick, as I see, is an excellent candidate for a job in the bioreactor maintenance department.

NikBond

15 years ago

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In the 20s or 30s of the last century.

And what specific difference from that time are you attributing to me?

I think Mr. NickBond has the right to his own, undoubtedly liberal, point of view.

What's with this irony? Do you want to say that I'm a troll/nerd/not like everyone else/something else – just say it.

And, by the way, would you mind telling me what your education is?

If you're trying to subtly accuse me of being a schoolchild, I'll get ahead of you: I'm 13 years old, I'm in 8th grade, I'm not going to troll anyone, and I just have a point of view that differs from others.

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The housing maintenance service doesn't have elite specialists in the field of housing services, but Uncle Vasya will do such a thing for a bottle of vodka that no housing maintenance service will accept your application later.

Okay. Paid specialists, like in developed countries. By the way, in Australia, you can only change a light bulb in the presence of a qualified electrician.

That's exactly it. All that's left for a normal person is to obsequiously polish their glasses.

It seems like you consider yourself to be part of the majority of our society. I hope it's clear what kind.
The country needs intelligence, not strength. One genius, or just a person who is not lacking in intelligence, is worth thousands of ignorant, hateful people. So, you shouldn't despise "normal" people so much, in your distorted understanding of "nerds."

And in general, normal people don't serve in the army; they dodge it. That's why the army is full of stupid people. If a normal person is unlucky and ends up in this zoo, why shouldn't they treat these subhumans accordingly?