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Nah, I just wanted to say that the movie is crap and it's being overhyped for no reason. Firstly, the plot is banal, repeating the long-suffering line of "Event Horizon"; secondly, there are a number of the stupidest anti-scientific errors. From the funny section:
1) For Americans, all problems are solved by dropping an atomic bomb. Aliens attacked? - drop a bomb! Terrorists captured Fantasy? - drop a bomb! The same goes for the fading sun. Firstly, all planets in the solar system make up 1% of the mass of the sun. How can a bomb weighing billionths of the earth's mass affect such a giant object? Secondly, the very fact of the sun fading is so naive that it makes the eyeballs of astrophysicists within a 150 km radius explode at the mere mention of it. Those who didn't study in 6th grade are unaware that thermonuclear reactions in the depths of the sun cause it to expand and increase emitted energy as long as there is fuel in the form of hydrogen. Burning through all the fuel within a certain timeframe, which is incomparable to the lifespan of humanity, would lead to a collapse into a neutron star. (However, it should be noted that Americans still missed the pedestal of idiocy; they were beaten by Russians. Specifically, in a music video by some pop group like "VIA Gra". According to the plot of the video [ATTENTION, SANE PEOPLE DO NOT READ! SPOILER:] the sun was covered in stardust and stopped shining. To save the sun, a giant vacuum cleaner with blondes in tight jumpsuits was sent from Earth.)
2) The fact that the ship flew right up to the sun is baffling. As we can see in the movie, the bomb reached the surface of the object in about three minutes, and based on this, it can be judged that the distance from the ship to the sun was less than the radius of the star itself. Naturally, only a person with cow poop in their head could come up with such a thing. Firstly, there is monstrous gravity, which would crush the starship into a ball.
Acceleration at the equator 274.0 m/s
Second cosmic velocity (for surface) 617.7 km/s[3]
Secondly, the solar wind emitted per square meter of the shield (even with a reflection coefficient of 99.999%) would easily evaporate any metal in a couple of minutes. There's no point even mentioning prominences here. Thirdly, we can quite accurately calculate the orbital speed of the ship around the sun, where h<<>
If Equatorial radius = 6.955×10^8 m Mass = 1.9891×10^30 kg G is known, then Vorb. = 5*10^5 km\s.
Meaning a full orbit around the object would take 2.7 hours. Not bad. However, it is theoretically proven that the speed limit for jet engines (which "Icarus" was equipped with) equals 22*10^3 m\s. A discrepancy has arisen. The theoretically possible speed was exceeded by 25 times. Which, perhaps, is the least of what wounds a sane mind in this movie.
3) A person going into open space without a spacesuit. And surprisingly, the authors only paid attention to the surrounding temperature of -273.15 degrees. No, really funny. I never thought you could get frostbite from a substance with density approaching zero :) But as for a lethal dose of radiation and death from ruptured vessels due to internal pressure — please.
4) "Time freezing" upon critical approach to the sun. If time had "frozen," it would have frozen for everyone and for Kiba himself (not just for the plasma a centimeter from his face). Complete heresy.
5) Freddy Krueger in the jungle. No need to explain anything here.
Alright, overall, I think that's enough. For those who don't want to torture their brains, you'd better watch the movie "Pandorum". A much higher quality film from the same year as "Sunshine," which didn't cause me any complaints and pleased me with its plot. Not another word.
No, I just wanted to say that the movie is terrible and it's being overrated. Firstly... A much better film from the same year, "Peklo," didn't give me any reason to complain and I was pleased with its plot. That's all.
I was a little off the mark. :) But there is still some logic to it. At first, I thought that the film contained some constructive ideas about global warming.
Missed the mark a bit. No, there's still some logic to it. I initially thought the film had some constructive ideas about global warming.
I specifically brought up this topic here because in the film thread, everyone would be indifferent to scientific arguments. Although, perhaps it will be the same here.
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A story of deception, or Global Warming
I've only heard the rapper Syava's song "Everything is a Lie," is it somehow related to this film?
What do you think about this movie: "A Tale of Deception, or Global Warming"? If you've seen it, of course.
I heard somewhere that, on the contrary, the warm Gulf Stream current is getting colder, so it will get terribly cold in Scandinavia, and therefore in Western Europe, soon. By the way, I was SO cold walking home today!! I barely warmed up when I got home.
No, I just wanted to say that the movie is terrible and it's been overrated. First of all, the plot is banal, repeating the overused trope of "through the horizon." Secondly, there are several incredibly stupid scientific errors. From the amusing section:
1) For Americans, all problems are solved by dropping an atomic bomb. Aliens attack? - Drop a bomb! Terrorists take over? - Drop a bomb! The same applies to the case of the sun dimming. First, all the planets in the solar system make up 1% of the sun's mass. How can a bomb weighing billionths of the Earth's mass affect such a giant object? Secondly, the very fact that the sun is fading is so naive that it makes astrophysicists within a 150 km radius burst their eyeballs at the mere mention of it. Who doesn't know that thermonuclear reactions in the depths of the sun cause it to expand and increase its emitted energy as long as there is fuel in the form of hydrogen? Burning all the fuel in a certain period, which is incomparable with the lifetime of humanity, will lead to collapse into a neutron star. (However, it should be noted that Americans still missed out on the pedestal of idiocy; they were surpassed by Russians. Specifically, in the music video of one pop group for a song like "Viagra." According to the plot of the video [WARNING: DO NOT READ FOR ADEQUATE PEOPLE! SPOILER:] the sun was covered in stardust and stopped shining. A huge vacuum cleaner with blondes in tight jumpsuits was sent from Earth to save the sun.)
2) The fact that the ship flies close to the sun raises questions. As we can see in the movie, the bomb reached the surface of the object in about three minutes, and based on this, we can conclude that the distance from the ship to the sun was less than the radius of the star itself. Of course, only someone with cow dung in their head could come up with such a thing. First, this is an enormous gravity that would crush the spacecraft into a ball.
Secondly, the solar wind emitted per square meter of shield (even with a reflection coefficient of 99.999%) would easily vaporize any metal in a couple of minutes. There's no point in mentioning prominences here anymore. Thirdly, we can quite accurately calculate the speed at which the ship orbits the sun, if h<<>
If Equatorial radius = 6.955×10^8 m Mass = 1.9891×10^30 kg G - known, then Vorb. = 5*10^5 km/s.
That is, it will take 2.7 hours for a complete revolution around the object. Not bad. However, theoretically, it has been proven that the speed limit for reactive engines (which equipped the "Icarus") is 22*10^3 m/s. Something doesn't add up. The theoretically possible speed was exceeded by 25 times. Which, perhaps, is the least damaging to common sense in this film.
3) A person going into open space without a spacesuit. And surprisingly, the authors only paid attention to the surrounding temperature of -273.15 degrees. It's funny. I never thought you could get frostbite from a substance with a density approaching zero :) But here's the radiation dose and death from rupture of blood vessels due to internal pressure – please.
4) "Time freezing" when critically close to the sun. If time had "frozen," it would have frozen for everyone, including Kiba himself (and not just for the plasma one centimeter from his face). Complete nonsense.
5) Freddy Krueger in the jungle. There's nothing even to explain here.
Okay, I think that's enough. Those who don't want to torture their brains should watch "Pandorum" instead. It's a much better movie-peer of "Sunshine", which didn't cause me any complaints and pleased me with its plot. No more words.
And wasn't it hard to calculate?) The film isn't about some bomb on the sun at all, but about the behavior of people who find themselves in such isolation and end up in a dangerous situation, while also having the mission of saving the Earth; this is what the film is about, as is the film "The Mist," which is not about monsters from some other dimension, but about people and how they can change under duress. Everything else is an assumption of a science fiction film; 99% of science fiction will make physicists cringe if you get down to it. By the way, the film is British and directed by a British director; only the studio is American.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.
God save us everyone Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
Didn't watch it.
Let's discuss the explosions! Just from an aesthetic point of view, since I don't know what else can be added from a scientific point of view.
And we can also discuss the stars.
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WhiteLizard
I specifically raised this issue here because in the movie thread, everyone would not care about scientific explanations. Although, maybe it's the same here.
WhiteLizard
