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#137
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Since when did I relinquish the leading position, becoming just a "suspiciously behaving" Nebu?
There's a big difference. For the sticker to come off, you'd have to smoke a cigar down to that sticker, and the guy isn't smoking a cigar.
Ah, now it's clear why. :D
And besides, it's not even a fact that the sticker is from a cigar; it could have come off from a game by the company "Monte Cristo."
It came off from a Monte Cristo sandwich.

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Since when did I relinquish the leading role, becoming just a "suspicious character," to Nebu?
You've become less active in playing and writing. And when you do write, it's rarely about anything important.

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#140
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Flandre
No versions yet. Need to think about it.

Let's do it.
Okay, Arandor, Xostor, Flandre, Gil4
Now we can execute everyone one by one and not worry about evidence or other nonsense.
P.S. If you want, you can start with me.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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#141
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Okay, Arandor, Xostor, Flandre, Gil4
Who is "Okay"?

Uh, you forgot about Registrar. But in general, you should be looking for clues.

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#142
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I won't express my opinion on the players' behavior yet (although, I will share one as the story progresses). But I will share my thoughts about the nighttime actions.
First, I'll say that it was foolish of me to think of Vega as a vagrant. There was a clue, but in my haste, I missed one phrase: "It seems that tonight he didn't bring a four-leaf clover..." Next, I had one thought: what if the phrase in the lawyer's description ("False Will – confuses the target for the selected player. The Lawyer indicates who the target is redirected to; if it coincides with the original target, the Lawyer does not report this.") means that he doesn't just not find out about the failure until he reads the newspaper. What if the redirection is only indicated in the newspaper if it happens after the player's action? And thus, if the player's action happens after the redirection, what if the player immediately goes to the new target, instead of changing it? Let's look at what actions are possible before the redirection:
1. The economist blocks.
2. The opium smoker blocks.
3. The detective sends a report.
We can rule out the detective's report immediately - it's too early. The opium smoker's block was successful. Logically, the economist's block should also have been successful, because she could have simply locked the door and left. What does this lead us to? If the change of target is not indicated in the newspaper for actions that happen after the redirection, this leaves only one possibility: Veg was the economist, comparing the statuses of Leang and Ple-sen. In other situations, it would turn out that the action started (for example, protection), then the lawyer came and changed the target - the protection was transferred to another player. Moreover, it would turn out that the Mafia somehow caught Vega off guard when he hadn't fully switched to another target yet. Unfortunately, due to the phrase about "loyalty to his cause," I can't insist on my version - I need to ask Slonysh about this detail of the mechanics, regarding the description in the newspaper of the redirection. But I will say one thing: there must have been either an economist's block or a status comparison. The block could only have been in the situation with Hos. The comparison is only here. If we determine whether Hos was blocked, or if it was just a literary description, we will understand who Vega was.
Let's move on to the newspaper.
Zedzi, as already mentioned, could have been not only a postman but also a doctor. But if he were a doctor, would he go to treat someone on the very first night? The opium smoker won't go to kill anyone on the first night. The chance of one of the two killers randomly hitting Lady Beatrice on the first night is too small. The chance of the Mafia hitting a player with a protector (i.e., also causing an injury) is also small. Finally, two Mafias in a row eliminate the doctor on the first night, purely by chance? This is not an argument, of course, but the chances of this happening are very small (specifically, 1 in 121 without protectors and without taking the Mafia into account). I'm still leaning towards the fact that Zedzi was a postman, and the phrase about the bag and preparing to leave is a literary part of the description; the postman needs to deliver the morning newspapers, plus the mail. However, of course, we cannot rule out the possibility that Zedzi was a doctor. And here is the moment about the behavior that I wanted to share. Leang, did you decide to play the fool? :D On the very first night, the Mafia boss is going to kill someone, even though he also has to provide additional clues? Even "he might have thought" sounds stupid. (I will only start thinking about the clues now; it was problematic without the internet.)
Let's move on to Arandor. Given the male voice, he could have been checked by the butler or Hastings. But the butler is unlikely to have checked on the first night instead of protecting. Although I don't rule out this possibility, because the description is more like checking if the person is in their place, rather than checking their status. In addition, Vega was definitely not a protector then.
Hostor was protected by Tapman - I don't know why I didn't realize this right away. He's like a default - he sleeps in the room. So he moved the poor guy's chair closer to the fireplace to keep warm. That's why, if the butler was checking Ara, Vega couldn't have been a protector - they were both busy. The closed door is interesting. Is it an economist's block? There is no certainty in any of the options.
The vagrant came to Ta. Pandor, again, could have been checked by the butler, but I doubt this option based on the description. I'm leaning towards checking the senior maid.
Based on the Mafia's actions, this leads to the following conclusions:
1. The opium smoker blocked WhiteLizard.
2. Jane killed Zedzi.
3. The lawyer redirected the action. Here, the question about the mechanics is important - either we don't know whose action was redirected, or it concerned Vega.
In any case, the score is already 8/5/1... It would be very good to figure out the clue about Jane today.
P.S. Ar, yes, the protagonist of the DMC series is called Dante, although in the fourth part, more than half of the game is not played as him. And also, for everyone - call me Gil. My nickname is pronounced "Gill," from the medieval name Gilford, and I'm called Gil for short.



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#143
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Would he really go heal on the very first night?
I don't know about Zedzi, but usually everyone goes to heal on the first night. And yes, he can heal even a killed unit, not just one that's poisoned, so using him from the first night makes sense.

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#144
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Arandor
I don't know about Zedzi, but usually everyone goes to heal on the first night. And yes, he can heal even a killed unit, not just cure poisoning, so using him from the first night makes sense.
Okay, then we can forget about that part – I didn't know that he not only heals but also revives. It shows a lack of experience.



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#145
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Is it really logical that the Mafia boss would go kill on the very first night, especially since he also has to provide additional evidence? Even saying "he might have thought about it" sounds ridiculous here.
I immediately explained my opinion about who killed Zedzi, because one detail in the description of his death makes it obvious. However, under other circumstances, completely denying the possibility of the boss committing a murder on the first day seems not entirely correct to me. Quite often, players are guided not by the role they were assigned, but by the qualities of the player when making their choice of who to kill.

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#146
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a) Charles has a crucial opportunity to kill Beatrice on the first try; no one else can do it – the others will give them time to be found, and this is quite possible even at the end of the game. b) Perhaps, but is there such a gap between Charles and Jane as players that the Mafia are willing to sacrifice him for the less useful Jane? Well, never mind, this is a pointless discussion – it's obvious that Jane was the one who killed.



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#147
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Perhaps, but is there such a significant difference between Charles and Jane as players that the Mafia would be willing to sacrifice Charles for the less useful Jane?
Of course, if Charles is an unskilled player who might accidentally betray his teammates during the day, and Jane is an eloquent, experienced Mafia member with a gift for persuasion and the ability to lie convincingly.

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#148
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Leang
Naturally, if Charles is an unskilled player who might accidentally betray his teammates during the day, and Jane is a charismatic, experienced mobster with a gift for persuasion and the ability to lie convincingly.
Heh. Maybe so.



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I will not give up
Just like this, I won't let go
Strongly grasping your right hand’s warmth
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#149
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an unskilled player who might accidentally put his teammates in a bad position during the day.
How about Haven?) although, no, he wouldn't betray his own.

Overall, there's nothing to say about Gil's post. Doubts about the roles of the killed players remain. There are no new interpretations of the clues either.

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#150
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Monte Cristo is actually a pseudonym. And in general, this person wasn't who he pretended to be. Conspiracy, legend. Something like that comes to mind when you hear that name. Based on the profiles, I haven't found any connections to specific factions yet... But who knows, there's a lot I don't know. For now.
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#151
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Leang
I might think he was playing a female role and was killed by Sir Charles, if not for the needle stuck in his skull. Probably, it was Red Jane who killed him, because only she has something similar, namely a hat pin.
Looking at your picture in the signature, it seems like she wants to stick something like a needle into someone's head.

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