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Happy Girl
So, Ironfist is actually a clue about the ladle you used to beat him. Ladle - iron fist :D
Happy, no offense, but you really need to brush up on your Heroes lore. :) Most of us have references to the game in our profiles, so without knowledge of the Might & Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic lore, it will be difficult to solve the clues. :)

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And in general, the sophisticated way of sticking a ladle into the stomach so that only two small holes remain... yes, I want to know that kind of kung fu! :smile40:
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It would be funny if it turns out that the killer of Slonysh was wielding a cooking spoon. :)
Alright, good night everyone.
Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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Actually, the sophisticated technique of inserting a cooking spoon into the stomach in such a way that only two small holes remain... yes, I want to know that kind of kung fu!
This is easily explained, considering that elephants are very strong, and the cooking spoon can be made of strong metal, and if the handle is sharpened...
I'm starting to doubt Reg :D

Be strong. Believe
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Extra nails in the coffin lid never hurt. Execute the Registrar. Feed him with caramels until he dies :smile51:

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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It's easy to explain, considering that elephants are very strong, and the ladle can be made of strong metal, and if you sharpen the handle...
I'm starting to doubt about Reg.

In the eighth Mafia game, under Zubr's GM-ship, Magnus had an avatar with horns and the role of a defender who kills the attacker. According to the newspaper, he killed the attacker with his horns :D

Наше оружие - неожиданность! Неожиданность и страх, страх и неожиданность - это два наших оружия! Плюс безжалостность - три наших оружия: страх, неожиданность и безжалостность! И ещё фанатичная преданность Папе - четвёртое! Наше оружие включает в себя... наше оружие включает в себя... страх, неожиданность... я сейчас!
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In the eighth Mafia game, under Zubr's game mastering, Magnus had an avatar with horns and the role of a defender who kills the attacker. According to the newspaper, he killed the attacker with his horns at that time.

Well, that's it, Slonysh is now under suspicion! Just please don't kill me with a ladle. By the way, she can feed you before death, so it won't be so painful. It's a shame our cook isn't a serial killer.

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Currently, my suspects are: 1. TaKo (mercenary), whom the Mafia are trying to protect. I would execute her first to deprive the Mafia of their double action. 2. Slonysh (Mafia). 3. Registr (Mafia), it's strange that he isn't voting for Kotorya, so she is probably a mercenary. In short, I will go after whoever of these three survives.
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Mourinho
At the moment, my suspects are:

1. TaKo (mercenary), whom the mafia is trying to protect. I would execute her first to deprive the mafia of their double action.
2. Slonysh (mafia)
3. Registr (mafia), it's strange that he doesn't even vote for Kotoryaya; it seems she really is a mercenary.
In general, whoever of these three survives until night, I will go after them.

May I ask how "one of these three" can possibly survive until night? :D

And regarding your night visit... I would prefer to die at the hands of another mafia member, so that evidence against them appears. There is already enough evidence against you.

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3. Registr (mafia), it's strange that he doesn't even vote for Kotoryaya; it seems she really is a mercenary.
Doesn't the fact that the mercenary was killed on the first night bother you at all? Or is logic for noobs, and professionals rely on psychology?

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Arandor
Okay, Slonysh is now my suspect! Just please don't kill me with a ladle. By the way, she might feed you before she kills you, so dying won't be so bad. It's a shame our cook isn't a serial killer.
Ar, I can feed you so well in real life that you'll be satisfied. :) And you won't go to heaven.
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I, Ar, can cook so well that you'll be satisfied, even in real life.
I'll think about the offer :D

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Arandor
I'll think about the offer :D
I'm not making an offer, I'm just bragging. :D I don't go around houses offering: "Would you like to be fed?"

But let's be honest - I'm beautiful, smart, and a good cook. :p And I'm also kind-hearted.
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I don't usually go door-to-door offering, "Would you like to feed me?"
And you don't need to, I'll come myself.

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I see that the deeper we go into the woods, the more partisans we find.
Neira Drake

Fine, then point out a user whom "Ironfist" also fits well. Maybe then I'll even support you...
I'll start searching for clues now ;)
It will be extremely difficult to pin Ironfist on someone. Because if this clue was planted, then the killer thought everything through ten times over so that it would be hard to track them down using it... But I'll still dig in that direction. I don't really want to go to the gallows for someone else's misdeeds...

Slonysh
According to what rules can we plant a false clue? :eek: Only a thief can change clues, but even they plant a clue to the killer they saw.

Why are you confusing us?
According to the rules, the killer can plant one additional clue at the crime scene.

Ta Kotoraya...
Regarding clues...
2) I don't know, I reaaaally liked Oksana's idea from yesterday about the butterscotch and Registr. IMHO, that's the connection. A clue that isn't obvious at first glance is exactly what might have been intended. Plus the strange bird is an extra clue the mafs are using to throw us off, since many people fit that description.
The bird on the dress is not a clue! I couldn't have left a clue on the victim's dress. Or do you also think I changed her clothes? :)\n The "butterscotch" clue is actually obvious at first glance. You open Butter's description in the wiki, and there's a mention of butterscotch right there.

Slonysh

And I already wrote why it's beneficial for the mafia to send the same suspected killer a second time in a row. Why risk getting good clues on undiscovered mafs? We know nothing about them yet, not a single lead. And now the night has brought us no new information. The same person is under suspicion. We've simply gifted one night to the mafia...
Slonysh, just imagine for one minute that I am a townie. And think about what the mafs would do then.
They would do this: seeing that I gained a fairly large number of votes at the end of the last day, they send the assassin on the job again with a planted clue that ties in very well with me. Everyone sees this clue and, shouting joyfully "Here's the maF!", they execute me. In this way, they kill two birds with one stone: they eliminate a townie, and no one digs into the real assassin.

Now admit it, Ironfist points to me too obviously. You don't even need to look in Wikipedia or anywhere else... Doesn't such an obvious clue bother you?

Happy Girl
As far as I remember, Registr always used extras!!!
Far from always. I only actively planted them in the 21st mafia game.


Fine. I'll go dig for clues...

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I have a certain thought regarding Ironfist.

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_and_Magic_VII:_For_Blood_and_Honor
This is a link to the description of the game Might and Magic VII. There is a mention there:
Having fled Enroth after the events of Might and Magic VI, Archibald, the brother of King Roland Ironfist, settled in Erathia, entering into an alliance with the Necromancers of the land of Deyja.

And Koteyko has Heroes of Might and Magic 7 in their signature. Although these are different games, considering that Heroes 7 doesn't exist yet (not even in development) and there is absolutely no information on it, and also considering Koté's rather poor profile, a clue could easily have been given based on a game with a similar name. Especially if you consider that this clue was planted ;)

Going back to searching for clues...

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Sigh... I'm no master of finding clues... Haven't found anything else yet...

I want to note that the term "headgear" doesn't just apply to hats and caps. According to Wikipedia:

Headgear is a term encompassing both hairstyling methods as well as ways of decorating and covering the head.
So confess. Who wears wigs that look like fur? ;)


And now the night has brought us no new information. The same person is under suspicion. We've simply gifted one night to the mafia...
Now you're going to gift the mafs a day too. When you unanimously execute a townie.
I'm actually curious to see what you'll say when you find out what my role was...

Neira Drake
But overall, for now, a minus in favor of Registr (sorry, I've seen your townie play and it was always more convincing than it is now. I've also seen your play as a man, and it doesn't look like your current play either...).
So by that logic, if I played differently as a man and differently as a townie, it means I'm a maf now?
Of course my current game differs from my past games. In those past games, I wasn't attacked so actively from the very start.
Moreover, the townie game you saw was without clues. And mafia without clues and with clues are substantially different. You could even say they are completely different games. Therefore, my game back then would have differed from this one in any case...


Now let's assume once more that I'm a maf.
On the first night, the clue pointing to me is butterscotch. On the second night, it's Ironfist.
Doesn't it bother anyone that these clues point to me too obviously?

Gone to continue my search for clues...

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Dariel, what character is that in your avatar?
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A bird on the dress isn't evidence! I couldn't have left evidence on the victim's dress. Or do you think I changed her clothes?
I have a rhetorical question: what were you doing with me before and after the murder? :smile04:

Reggie, the snail drawings you made of him are pretty good, although I still don't agree about the fur hat...

I'm still not voting because I'm not completely sure about his guilt...
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Neira Drake
I have a rhetorical question: what were you doing with me before you killed me and after the murder? :smile04:
I wasn't even there...

Regarding today's clues.
There are 2 clues:
1) The inscription "Ironfist"
2) A headdress resembling a fur hat.

One of these clues was planted, the other is genuine.

Now let's consider 2 scenarios:
1) If we assume that I am the Mafia. And I planted one of these clues myself.
Let's consider this scenario.
I would not have planted the "Ironfist" clue in any case (I don't seem to be suicidal)
So I planted the fur hat.
The question arises: Who did I want to frame with this hat?
TaKo? But her cap doesn't look like a fur hat at all.
Maybe I just wanted to confuse people? But that doesn't make sense, considering that I was almost executed yesterday; I should have framed someone with additional evidence then.
If I were the Mafia, I would have planted something better, for example, a regular, non-fur hat, and now I would be writing accusations against TaKo with a smart look.

2) Now let's consider the scenario if I am an innocent.
In this case, the planted clue is "Ironfist".
It is already clear what purpose the Mafia had in planting this clue and who they wanted to frame with it. I have already written about this.

Dear citizens, think about this.
Answer these two questions for yourself (you don't even have to write about it in the thread): which of these clues was planted, and what did the Mafia want to achieve by planting this clue?
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