World Championship in Heroes of Might and Magic III. — Tournament History online

Lider1

15 years ago

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If you're already bragging about starting to play, you should at least stream it, you intriguer.

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KobRa_RR

15 years ago

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I dragged the first one through the blue bog onto the red barb. Took hydras and min. Dragon Fly Hives at the first external dwelling. On the second, another 2 Dragon Fly Hives and a Dragon Utopia-three with a loss of 6 wyverns. Then Go-go through ГО(45 dread knights) and by day 124 I'm sitting in the center castle, restoring mana with parameters all around 25 and imps at 3K. Then he breaks ГО and FF with no chance against 6 bears and the rest.

We started the second one Inferno on Castle - brilliantly misplayed... We played until day 121, I feel the third will decide everything :)
Upd. they gave 9 angels in the treasure zone - GG.. against 16 archangels no demons could save me. And I didn't manage to place my own archangels by day 127.

We're playing the third one. Dungeon on Ramp on the template named after the Blade :) Unfortunately, got steamrolled and 100 wyverns with Tazar didn't help. My last game on SOD and according to the dumb rules

StickyFingaz

15 years ago

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Latest news from the World Championship
In the winners' final, AlexTheGreat vs DeepMike, the score is 1-1

In the losers' bracket, maretti defeated KobR 2-1. MikeSpb reached the 1/2 final (2-1 vs Demenich and 2-0 vs FireToSky) and is waiting for his next opponent - the winner of the ArchStanton vs maretti match.

http://worldcup.legends-of-heroes.com/ladder/

StickyFingaz

15 years ago

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Maretti won against ArchStanton with a score of 2-1, so now only 4 players are competing for the tournament victory: AlexTheGreat, DeepMike, Mike_Spb, and Maretti. The winner of the losers' bracket semifinal, Mike_Spb vs. Maretti, will face the loser of the winners' bracket final. Next, in the superfinal, the winner of the winners' bracket will have an advantage – they only need to win twice, while their opponent from the losers' bracket needs to win three times to become the World Champion.

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Oelm

15 years ago

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Sorry, I don't participate myself, but it seems very strange to give the winner a +30% chance of winning. Alex and DeepMike probably don't need that. I've never heard of anyone playing with such a handicap, except maybe in one of Baev's tournaments, where role-playing players gave the same handicap to newcomers. Let's put it in numbers: let's assume that players of the same level made it to the final (it's the final, after all). The chance of winning against the winner: 62.5% for the loser, 37.5%. And that's assuming that the loser's skill is still slightly lower.

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FireToSky

15 years ago

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Oelm

I apologize, I don't participate here myself, but it's very strange to give the winner a +30% chance to win. It's unlikely that Alex and DeepMike need that. I've never heard of playing with such a handicap, except in one of Baev's tournaments, where RP players gave the same handicap to newcomers.

Let's imagine it with numbers: let's assume that the players who made it to the final are of the same level (it's the final after all). The chance of winning against the winner: 62.5% for the loser, 37.5%. And this is assuming that the loser's skill is still slightly lower.

Are you hallucinating? This is a normal "double elimination" system; the grand final is always played with an advantage for the winner because they haven't lost.

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Oelm

15 years ago

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Are you delusional? This is a standard "double elimination" system; the grand final is always played with an advantage for the winner because they haven't lost.

Where does all this unfounded self-confidence come from? I've participated in double-elimination tournaments many times, and I've never seen such NONSENSE with a different number of wins. Such an advantage is given ONLY when a pro plays against a beginner. For example, sometimes a Candidate Master (KM) might give an advantage to an amateur.

KobRa_RR

15 years ago

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Indra, you're mistaken here. In champ matches, as long as I can remember, the loser always needs to win one more game than the winner.

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Dirty_Player

15 years ago

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It all makes perfect sense. If the winner loses, they also get a second chance, right?

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Captain

15 years ago

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Oelm

Where does all this empty self-confidence come from? I have participated in tournaments with a double-elimination system many times, and I have never seen such NONSENSE with a different number of wins. Such a handicap is given ONLY when a pro plays against a beginner. For example, sometimes a Candidate Master (KM) can give a handicap to an amateur.

Here's what Wikipedia says:

- If the winner of the upper bracket wins the first game, they get first place, and their opponent gets second.
- If the winner of the upper bracket loses the first game, a second game is played, and the winner of that game gets first place, and the loser gets second. This variant is called "Full Double Elimination."

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Oelm

15 years ago

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I concede to Wikipedia and admit that I was wrong. Nevertheless, the probability calculation suggests that the chance of winning against the winner is twice as high as winning against the loser, which, in my opinion, leads to a trivialization of the final. I based my opinion on personal experience. For example, in one of the commercial pool tournaments (9-ball), a Candidate Master gave an amateur a handicap of 4-3. Which, by the way, is not as significant as 3-2. I also know that in many other sports, no handicap is given to a tournament participant in a double-elimination system. Kostya, I think you understand that it is completely unfair to mix the results of the group stage and the final match. At the very least, this kills the suspense. Is this what the contenders, who have been fighting for almost a year to reach the final, want?

By the way, the finalist who made it through the lower bracket has already played 3 more games than the one who went through the upper bracket. Isn't that enough of a "pardon"?

StickyFingaz

15 years ago

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AlexTheGreat def Deep Mike 2-1. We just finished the decisive game on Rampart, Ivor def Fortress, Tazar 131.
Maretti def Mike_Spb 2-0. Both games were on Jebus; it seems Mike wasn't ready to play on this map. Despite Maretti's late pushes to the center (end of week 2), Mike lost because he pushed there even later (something like week 133 and 134).

SEM_56

15 years ago

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I hope you'll let me know on the forum when the final match will be played...
Otherwise, I just happened to stumble upon the game today.

StickyFingaz

15 years ago

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Maretti defeated Deep Mike 2-0. Congratulations to Deep Mike on his honorable third place! In the Grand Final, AlexTheGreat and Maretti will face each other. There might be streams (Alex has agreed). We are looking for commentators – please contact us via private message, ICQ, or chat.

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SEM_56

15 years ago

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StickyFingaz

Maretti defeated Deep Mike 2-0. Congratulations to Deep Mike on his honorable third place!

AlexTheGreat and Maretti will meet in the Grand Final. There might be streams (Alex agrees). We are looking for commentators - please send a private message, ICQ message, or chat message.

Who would doubt this result? The final will be interesting, for sure!!!
Is it best of 2, or how does it work?