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Again, Twenty-five. Firstly, it wasn't a demand, but a request, because there hadn't been any VODs featuring the Barbarian yet, and starting with them is challenging. Secondly, Mizrael himself says it (starting around 22:18):
"If the Barbarians haven't built Behemoths by the first week, and they don't have any hidden resources or anything, then you can be pretty sure that the game is lost." I didn't come up with that. I don't make predictions about other factions, so I found it interesting that predictions are made about the main or secondary buildings (or even everywhere), crystals are mined in this way (because anything can happen, and crystals are sometimes unavailable), and Bears are placed. So, I don't understand why you're picking on me. The VOD is primarily significant in terms of showing a performance far below average. I saw what I wanted to see (and I think everyone else saw what they wanted to see). Now I know who to fear when playing as Crag, and who not to. And all sorts of complexities (like a chest placed diagonally) are not relevant to me here.
ВОИН КЛАНА "РЫЦАРИ АПОКАЛИПСИСА"
Никогда не теряйте концентрации, даже если абсолютно уверены в своей победе: секундная расслабленность, и триумф обернётся горьким поражением.
"Любой filowandel запросто станет Neverminder-ом, если захочет". Kash.
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Neverminder
(like a chest diagonally) I don't need them here.
What's the point of WATER anyway? To learn something new and improve your skills. "A chest diagonally" which caused the argument is not some kind of hardcore thing – it's the FUNDAMENTALS. And to say "I don't need them here" is the same as saying "Why should I bother with rushing? Only hardcore players do that" or "Why bother going on the snakes in the swamp?" These are also fundamental aspects of the game.

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I have an interesting question: How do you play with them further? :D
+1! IMO, it's in the second week that all the skill is revealed. Many (including me) simply don't know what to do in the second week when there is no clear plan.
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+1! IMO, it's in the second week that all the skill becomes apparent. Many (including myself) simply don't know what to do in the second week when there isn't a clear plan.
Yeah, it would be great if there were more guides about "In the Wake of Gods," with discussions and thoughts on further strategy, etc.!
It's much more valuable than watching someone show how to properly collect resources and fix some units... The real game starts in the second week; I often notice that I don't play it very well.
This is much more difficult than figuring out how to build 3 markets and trade for 2 mediocre crystals to build a Michael's, here all the skill is revealed, you need to think, damn it... :confused: :rolleyes:
Тот, кто борется - может проиграть, кто нет - проиграл уже (с)
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Again, Twenty-five. First, it wasn't a demand, but a request, because there hadn't been any "War of the Dwarves" (WoD) for the Barbarian faction yet, and starting with them is difficult. Second, Mizrael himself says it (starting around 22:18):
"If the Barbarians haven't deployed Hippogryphs in the first week, and they don't have any hidden resources or anything, then you can be pretty sure that the game is lost." I didn't come up with that. I don't make predictions about other factions, so I found it interesting that predictions are made for the main or secondary castle (or even everywhere), crystals are mined in this way (because anything can happen, and crystals are sometimes unavailable), and Bears are deployed. So I don't understand why you're picking on me. WoD is significant primarily from the perspective of a much lower-than-average strategy. I saw what I wanted to see (and I think everyone saw what they wanted to see). Now I know who to fear when playing as Crag and who not to. And all sorts of complexities (like taking a chest diagonally) are not important to me here.


Taking the chest, like any other wonderful thing lying on the ground, diagonally is the same as not moving the character who picks up the item at all! Just skip turns and clear the area with a group of heroes. What's wrong with that? Having 8 heroes by day 2-3 is also considered hardcore, right?:smile29: :D
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just skip turns and clear the respawn points.
Couldn't pull it off. I usually do that :p
Oelm told me that if the main hero is a logistics expert, then this strategy is viable. As a rule, the main hero has logistics, and often also has stables and other speed-boosting skills.
ВОИН КЛАНА "РЫЦАРИ АПОКАЛИПСИСА"
Никогда не теряйте концентрации, даже если абсолютно уверены в своей победе: секундная расслабленность, и триумф обернётся горьким поражением.
"Любой filowandel запросто станет Neverminder-ом, если захочет". Kash.
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Why are you all ganging up on this guy? Almost every post addressed to him contains an attempt to tease him, or even call him a noob, almost to the point of telling him to "know his place." What's wrong with you people? If you want to give someone advice, teach them how to do better, then this isn't the way to do it, and without aggression (otherwise, any information, even if it's three times correct, will cause rejection and won't be accepted). If you just want to make fun of a newbie, then you're worthless. Now, posts are appearing that don't even have clear arguments...
The chest, like any other wonderful thing lying on the ground, should not be taken diagonally, and you shouldn't even move the character who is taking this item diagonally!

Resources CAN and SHOULD be taken diagonally; it's just important to know when it's beneficial. By the way, this is a clear example of a post that doesn't carry any meaningful content but expresses a desire to kick someone who is already being attacked (just to join in, perhaps?). Turn management is an important part of the game; I think even Neverminder understands this, but for some reason, I'm sure that after all the posts about "taking chests diagonally," he won't have any desire to read articles about how to move units rationally. One wise man said: "No one can teach another person anything." A person learns on their own; you can't force knowledge into them, but you can discourage them from wanting to learn (maybe this is the goal of the authors?).
I miss the old World, when there was a real Community of people united by one game. They shared what they could, rejoiced together, and now, everywhere you look, there's no getting away from arguments; they constantly bite each other over trivial things that sometimes aren't even worth mentioning...
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I really enjoyed the game with numOne as Barbarians. Thank you very much!
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Here are a few lines from there; I couldn't handle much more:

When storming an enemy castle, Cyclops can destroy walls, so it makes sense to separate their troops.
I associate playing as Stronghold with a game on the Lord of War map. When I cloned 4800 Behemoths and tore everyone apart. That was insane damage... (I cloned them, you see)))))

Yes, Stronghold only has Behemoths and Cyclops as decent warriors.

They focus on attack.
Behemoth is a beast =)

I agree, but this doesn't happen very often, but you can't go to the Mine Guardians without Orcs in such cases.

Damn, this is interesting, here's more)))

No, you can't do without upgrading Ogres; who will then cast Bloodlust on the monsters and Rukh?

I think you shouldn't build Behemoths on day 2; it will ruin your entire economy! You definitely need Orcs (archers are always needed), Riders are a must, and Birds, and if your economy is definitely not struggling, you can upgrade them! Heroes are pretty good! And magic isn't needed! They have high attack! By the way, it's a beautiful city! Well, that's a plus for aesthetes!)))
We need more posts like this!!!!:D
I really laughed out loud. +1.
Everyone starts as a beginner.
Mizrael +1. When reading on the forum, it really stands out that there's a lot of negativity. And it comes from quite strong players. Some kind of megalomania. And this clearly puts off many people.
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Respect each other.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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I recently tried streaming, and in my opinion, it's the future. There's no limit to the number of viewers, plus there's a chat where you can ask questions and comment.
Almost forgot the most important thing: streams are automatically saved to your profile (although not always; sometimes you have to save them manually within a week, or they're gone), and you don't have to do any editing; they're already ready to go.


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Oelm
I still think the only solution is to have one player play and another commentate.

Unfortunately, progress hasn't gone that far yet, so the second player can't read the first player's mind :( The second player can't convey the first player's plans, so one person should commentate and play. And the fact that "he's moving the single unit down to lure the golems" is something everyone already knows.
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Unfortunately, progress hasn't reached a point where the second player can read the first player's mind :( The second player cannot convey the first player's plans, so only one person should comment and play. And the fact that "now he's moving the unit down to lure the golems" is something everyone already knows.
It's enough that the player and the commentator understand the game at a comparable level. For example, when I was in Kingisepp for the first time, I understood half of what was happening in the final match between Alex and Vasya only after the comments from Expert and Vik:o. And that didn't even involve the battles themselves :) When I first came to St. Petersburg for the fixed-rules tournament, I didn't always understand Horn's verdicts on the awarded matches, even though all the St. Petersburg players understood them immediately: after a detailed comment, it became unclear how I hadn't seen it myself right away.
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You can record it first and then comment on it the next day. Or you can comment to another person, as often happens in StarCraft, StarCraft II, Warcraft III, and Counter-Strike.
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oddy
You can record it first, and then comment on it the next day. Or just comment on someone else's gameplay, which often happens in SC, SC2, WC3, and CS.
1. It's usually too much of a hassle to do it the next day.
2. How many people will be willing and actually capable of commenting on a game like Alex's?.....

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Players who also comment – that would be interesting and educational.


The quality of the game will really suffer; there won't be time to think while talking.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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The next day, people usually don't feel like it.
2 How many people will actually be willing and able to comment on the game, for example, like Alex?.....

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The quality of the game will actually suffer; there won't be time to think while talking.
On the contrary. By verbalizing his actions, a person will be able to understand them more clearly. Chatting is not necessary. Just think out loud. Those who have been playing Heroes for a long time will comment, and most of their actions will already be automated, so it is unlikely that their own speech will lead them to a dead end. Moreover, with each time, they will develop the skill of commenting on the game.
МУДРЫЙ - не обязательно старый, ОПЫТНЫЙ - не обязательно мудрый... обладатель и того и другого всегда должен помнить слова НАПОЛЕОНА БОНАПАРТА: Война состоит из непредусмотренных событий; В каждом большом деле всегда приходится какую-то часть оставить на долю :smile33: СЛУЧАЯ...
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I'm sure Roma meant the difficulty of simultaneously commenting while playing. I tried recording a VOD with commentary as I played... it was a complete mess - the **actions** are really automated, and for a few minutes of gameplay, there are only a couple of phrases at most, the speech simply can't keep up with the thought process - it's not possible to comment on a real game with a time limit on the fly (either there will be very few comments, or there simply won't be enough time to do everything as planned). If you comment on every action, you need to set unlimited turns and just keep talking... it will take a lot of time, and few people will do it. So, either commentary from another player online, or self-commentary at a different time - the difficulties of these options have already been described.
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