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Offline Nagan-4
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Maybe I'm just not very bright, but I don't understand the difference between the proposed tournament and just saying, "Hey, let's play online." I could play against SDV (or anyone else), declare it a tournament, post a report on a website (or somewhere else), and proudly wear the title of winner of some tournament in the second Heroes game, right?
Playing is a plus, meeting up and playing in person is a huge plus, but why all the extra complications?

I'm not against meeting up and playing. Without Izhevsk, without the magazine, in a small Heroes community.

...But how do you propose Dustu and Mike come to an in-person meeting? They wrote that it's impossible due to financial reasons. Plane tickets are too expensive.

...Can we find a room for playing for 3 days, an apartment for several people to stay in, and laptops in Moscow?

These are my main questions, the simplest ones, without which there's no point in continuing the conversation.

As for my concerns about popularizing the game and the underlying ideas, I can set them aside without any problems. :) Organizing an in-person championship and watching the games would also be great. But the tournament should definitely only include those who write good reports! Along with save files, that would be decent.
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Eric, ideally, we need a two-room apartment with two tables. One room for the bedroom, and the other for gaming. Two tables and eight chairs are sufficient for eight people. But I'm also prepared to go to Michurinsk if it's for the holidays.
I'm trying to get in touch with more Heroes players.

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Received a positive response from the organizer in Izhevsk.
The question is, what do we want from him? What should I discuss with him?
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[Received a positive response from the organizer in Izhevsk.
The question is, what do we want from him? What should I discuss with him?
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2 Dust.
Alex, in my opinion, we should first find out who is willing to go to Izhevsk.
As far as I remember, it's about 1100-1200 km from Moscow. It's 400 km from me to Moscow, and then another 1200 km – it's too expensive just to come and watch.
I could make it to Moscow to watch, but that's too far.
Watching replays and reading reports on the forum will be enough.

But for the players, for those who are really in the top, it's worth going. To meet, chat, and have a great tournament. As far as I remember, in the last 10 years, there hasn't been a single offline tournament! And that's for such a cult game. I think I heard that in 1998-99, championships were held in St. Petersburg for HoMM2 – but no more.

But who will go, let's be objective. You. Mike – not sure, judging by the posts. PReDS – if he went to Novosibirsk... we can count him.
Querty – willing to play in Moscow, but is he willing to go to Izhevsk?
I don't know about the players from St. Petersburg, whether they are willing to go. I know Horn well, as do you. Let's assume that if we both call him, it might be possible. Although, after the birth of his child, Sasha has practically left the online scene.
I don't know anything about the other players from Moscow, whether they would even play in Moscow.

So, you and PReDS, let's assume for sure. Mike and Querty – maybe. We need at least 6 people, so we need to talk to more people.
But the fact that someone supports our idea is very good.

Therefore, we need to determine as soon as possible the group of people who would like to play offline in a 2v2. I already mentioned Querty – all that remains is to find them and ask. And then, having gathered a quorum, we can decide on the issue. IMHO.
Eric, ideally, we need a 2v2 with two tables. One room for the bedroom, the other for the game. Two tables and 8 chairs are fine for 8 people. But I'm ready, if it's during the holidays, to do it in Michurinsk.
I'm trying to get in touch with more HoMM players.

2 Querty.
So, is it impossible to organize a tournament in Moscow? Then the search area narrows. Regarding Michurinsk – I won't refuse. But on the 26th-28th, I'm holding a tournament in Michurinsk, which has already started with our qualifying games.

I can't hold tournaments often – I need to clean the apartment, wash the sheets for the whole group, and do some odd jobs to earn money – we have students playing who are not well-off, and the club charges quite a lot – so I pay for them at the tournament.

In general, I can afford no more than one tournament every six months, because not everything in my life revolves around Heroes, I have a personal life and a job.
I'm ready to hold a tournament at the beginning of spring.
But there might be a problem – where to hold the CIS final for the 3v3? I can't handle two tournaments – one for the 3v3 and one for the 2v2 – on my own.

If it works out with Izhevsk and we get enough people for the 2v2, that would be great.

P.S. It would be interesting to cooperate with Izhevsk. Maybe there are really good organizers and a certain base there?
If the organizers want, the CIS final for HoMM3 could be held there.
I understand that the proposal is utopian. But I'm not trying to pass the buck – I promised to hold the final. But what if?
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[Received a positive response from the organizer in Izhevsk.
The question is, what do we want from him? What should I discuss with him?

2 Dust.
Alexey, in my opinion, first we need to find out who is willing to go to Izhevsk.
As far as I remember, it's about 1100-1200 km from Moscow. It's 400 km to Moscow for me, and then another 1200 km – it's too expensive just to come and watch. I could manage to get to Moscow to watch, but that's too far.
It will be enough to have the save files and read the reports on the forum.
I didn't say that we need to go to Izhevsk. We can consider it as a backup option. I just found someone who might be useful to us. To cover the tournament in his circles, in the press, and possibly help find interested sponsors, etc.

Let's formulate what we want from him so that I can have a specific conversation with him about something!
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I didn't say we had to go to Izhevsk. We can consider it as a backup option. I just found someone who might be helpful to us. They could promote the Tournament in their circles, in the press, and possibly help us find interested sponsors, etc.

Let's define what we want from them so I can have a specific conversation with them!

Alex, let's take it step by step. Promoting the Tournament among acquaintances and in the Izhevsk press (and maybe even beyond, on internet portals) is a very good thing. In my opinion, there's nothing more specific to discuss right now.

Regarding sponsors, it's more complicated. This organizer and the sponsors are in Izhevsk, while we are, let's say, in Michurinsk or Moscow, a thousand and a half kilometers away. Hmm, I think sponsors are pragmatic enough not to give money to just anyone. For example, I could be a sponsor.
My friend Alexgrid comes to me with a request to help him with money for his Tournament.
Knowing him as a good person, someone I've been friends with for many years, I would help.
But if he comes with something like: "You know, there are great guys a thousand and a half kilometers away, not very well known, could you give them money..." - I would refuse without hesitation.
Maybe I would help if the Tournament was named after my company or something like that. But then I would find a lawyer friend who would explain the intricacies of Russian law, after which I would be wary of getting involved. Right now, there's nothing we can take from it; it's the same as asking guys playing soccer on the beach for beer to organize an alternative Russian championship, unsanctioned by the football federation.
But once a company gets involved, the situation changes.
That's why I wanted to reach out to a magazine – to legalize our Tournaments through them, with the computer sports federation, with Buku, and steer the process in a civilized direction.

For now, I see it like this:
1. Izhevsk - there is a desire and opportunity. But we need to gather people, at least 6. Who will go?
2. Moscow. We can't organize it independently. With the involvement of a gaming magazine, the question is open.
3. Michurinsk. We could probably gather people. But I'm busy with three other things right now, so I won't make any promises. Unless the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 final is held here, then yes, we can gather.
4. Novosibirsk - we could probably organize a Tournament ourselves, I can name 4-5 strong players. But it would only be a local, Siberian Tournament.
5. Saint Petersburg. There are players, but no desire. Horn could probably organize it, but he's not interested in Heroes. Gunnar has never organized championships.
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Overall, I think one of the best options would be to not spread ourselves too thin, not travel to an unfamiliar Izhevsk, etc., but to combine the CIS G3 finals and a retro tournament for G2, with a lineup of about 8 people. There won't be many people in it, but there will be a lot of advantages: 2 tournaments in one, a joint and friendly time, the scale of the event, etc.

I think that in G2, in addition to all of the above, we could try to attract Alex the Great - he also plays G2 very well. But in general, I think that without some kind of material benefit, he will not play... only if he gets hooked and wants to break a kind of record - to become a Champion in 2 versions, just for the title, and even then, who knows.
In general, it would be an amazing tournament if Horn, Gunnar, Alex the Great, Great Genius, Havr, PReDS, Mike, SDV, DR28, and I came... I want to! :rolleyes:
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the only problem is that the issue of POKER will immediately become quite acute there!
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Sorry for the long absence, I want to fully clarify my current situation.

1. I won't be able to be a sponsor for the tournament.
2. I can come to Michurinsk or Izhevsk outside of working hours.
3. If there is a sufficient number of participants, I would be happy to be a judge or a reporter.
4. Unlike last year, I won't be able to organize the tournament - work takes up a lot of time and energy.
5. I will try to call Oxygen, GreatGenius, Kama, or find another way to contact them tomorrow. I remember Navuchodonosor/Captain, but I can't find him on the forum right now.
6. At the moment, there is no contact with gaming publications. Regarding Buka: I had a conflict with them (related to a bug in the campaign for the second Heroes game - an inaccessible castle due to similar coordinates with another one). However, I can try to talk to other people who had contacts with Buka.
7. If there are sponsors, I think we can find a club and a rented apartment with collective efforts. However, there is no opportunity to look for sponsors right now.

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PReDS
the only problem is that the issue of POKER will immediately arise! :(
For the sake of a full-fledged tournament in G2, I can promise not to touch the cards. ;)
Although poker has never prevented me from finishing my games, my priority is always Heroes only. :-)
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I'm willing to travel anywhere, even to Novosibirsk. As for playing, honestly, I'm not sure. It's quite a distance to the guys mentioned above. So, maybe just for the sake of fairness ;) I'm available practically any day. Poker is also not a problem; I'm getting tired of it.
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.
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I'll go anywhere, even to Novosibirsk.
So, where were you at the beginning of November? ;)
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So, where were you in early November? ;)
[SZOТ]I'd rather tell you in person. :)[/SZOТ]
Я в мечеть не за праведным словом пришёл.
Не стремясь приобщиться к основам пришёл.
В прошлый раз утащил я молитвенный коврик,
Он истерся до дыр, - я за новым пришёл.
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Offline Nagan-4
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In general, I think that one of the best options would be not to scatter, not to go to an unfamiliar Izhevsk, etc., but to combine the CIS G3 final and a retro tournament for G2, with a team of about 8 people. There won't be many people there, but there will be a lot of advantages: 2 tournaments in one, a joint and friendly time, the scale of the event, etc.

Why not? Right now, I have a qualifier this week. Soon there will be a championship in St. Petersburg. Then we can decide.
Three tournaments have already been held.

Kingisepp and Kyiv remain – they should be held. I think that if we hold them, then Peterius will also hold one in his city. In Yekaterinburg, probably the same guys who came the first time will come to the final.

That is, after the St. Petersburg tournament, we can have a serious conversation about the final. If it's at my place, I can organize one for Heroes of Might and Magic 2 as well.
For a full-fledged G2 tournament, I can promise not to touch the cards. Although poker has never prevented me from finishing my games, the priority is always heroes only. :-)

Alexey, I'm afraid of poker. Not of the game itself, but of the consequences. For example, a player will come to the championship. The first question: "Where is the vodka?".
And then: "And... um... where is the poker?". That's it, the player is lost for the championship. Usually, an entire group drops out of the championship.

If I agree to host the championship, I arrange the venue, the people for such an event, and then it will be difficult for me to explain to the people who helped me why everything went completely differently.

But let's be honest. St. Petersburg and Kingisepp mean that all the poker players will come. And with strong charisma. If they managed to dissuade our Michurinsk Alexey from playing the CIS final to the end, then there is nothing to say about the others. People come to relax and have fun. In principle, this is correct. But damn, I don't know how this is compatible with my proposal to hold full-fledged tournaments. :)

Now, you usually hear from a player: "I won't come if there's no poker!".
Maybe I should switch to hosting live poker tournaments?
Poker is also not a problem, it's annoying.

In light of the above, I agree, this poker is annoying, and it does a lot of harm to the heroes. :D
I'll go anywhere, even to Novosibirsk.

In my opinion, we need to gather about 6-8 people who are willing to come to the tournament. And who are willing to write reports and make saves. Even if we don't manage to create a journal, we'll make a gift for our forum. I'm sure there will be people who will read it.
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Navuchodonosor/Captain won't be able to travel anywhere due to family reasons. However, he is willing to host any championship in Kyiv.

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