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Posts from Haven faction discussion.Auto-translated
King's Bounty is a fairy tale, Heroes of Might and Magic is serious fantasy. I don't dislike griffins; I actually like the uncorrupted ones from the fifth game, the vulture from the fourth, or the villainous griffin from the second. I just try not to let my fondness influence my objective judgment. Otherwise, I'll be no better than the crazy people who, for example, think a dragon is invincible and can withstand the explosion of a high-tech nuclear bomb. And in this case, logic provides an excellent picture. Bird brain, little mass, few convolutions. I can't immediately recall anything other than King's Bounty or "Alice in Wonderland" where there are truly intelligent griffins. It's understandable – it's a fantasy monster.
I wouldn't say that pikemen are proud. They just have golden armor.
So, explain the griffin's pride then. Because it sits upright, not slouching, while waiting for a bone? You can't tame a "proud creature," and you can't put a muzzle on it.
Bird brain, small mass, few convolutions. I can't immediately recall anything other than King's Bounty or "Alice in Wonderland" where there were truly intelligent griffins. It's understandable – it's a fantasy monster.
Well, if we're being serious, some birds from the corvid family are smarter than many mammals. Maybe griffins are intelligent birds. Remember the cutscene for the mission featuring Kurak... However, I think a griffin could be either a core or elite unit, and I don't consider the Devoted One a castle unit. I think that if they are in the game, they will be a summon. We'll see.
Griffins have a proud gaze! And they really sit upright. And it's quite possible that they just decided to help people in the fight against all sorts of evil creatures :). I really like the griffin image from "six," but agree that not every bird can fight, especially against what they show. No, griffins are quite intelligent birds.
KB is definitely a fairy tale, and the graphics also set that tone :). But I wouldn't say that HoMM is a particularly serious game. Talking animals are also acceptable here ;).
Ah yes, in KB, it seemed to me that the king of griffins just wants to consider himself a king. Even if other griffins obey him, there is no state here at all.
Added 1 minute ago And by the way, I was just answering your question, proving that the griffin is worthy of being in the elite. This is already a fact (I mean that the griffin will be in the elite).
That's right... And there they lived in a real environment, not with people like cats. And the worst ones were in Heroes 5; I'll never forget that muzzle. But Heroes 6 is okay; I like it...
Added 7 minutes later Ment
I remember. They clearly overdid it with all of that. :) Caring for their offspring is fine, I can live with them talking, but the fact that they have, essentially, their own state...
I was also surprised by Katauri's imagination. The Griffin Empire is exactly the state of griffons (a bad translation in Heroes 5).
Added 7 minutes later Irdis Ewallo
However, I think that a griffin can be both a core and an elite unit, and I don't consider the Priestesses of Light to be a castle unit. I think that if they are in the game, they will be summons.
For such a huge creature to be on the same level as Guardians and Archers!? They will probably be elite units; these aren't the griffons with tin cans on their heads. And I think the Priestesses are from Haven; why did they even put them on the poster then!? The next units in order are the units from Haven; when they release the Priestesses (if they don't release an unknown unit), then we'll see
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;) Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
Suddenly, a new unit appeared. They changed the gender of the Priests; well, that's something. Apparently, it’s a support unit. Perhaps they will remove debuffs and heal friendly units. Presumably, they will also attack, unless they turn them into a purely supportive unit with a large mana pool and a considerable spellbook, but with very low attacking potential.
And yes, the question of what is flying above the human army in that artwork remains open.
O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, Take away our pride.
Suddenly, a new unit. They changed the gender of the Priests, huh. Obviously, it's a support unit. Perhaps they will remove debuffs and heal friendly units. I suppose they will also attack, unless they make it a purely support unit with a large mana pool and a decent spellbook, but with very low attack potential. And yes, the question of what that thing is that's flying over the Human army in that artwork remains open.
I like the Priestesses; they finally made a beautiful, non-pretentious unit. And I said there would be something like monks. Yes, probably, they will cast spells. Basically, in Heroes 6, there are already 2 types of attacks: physical/magical, but I think they will give them magical damage for show, but they will use various blessings and healing spells. Yes, I already said that Erwan on Facebook said that we will soon see the last Necropolis creature and 1 unit from Haven. If they show the spider woman tomorrow, that would be great.
Added 11 minutes ago Morning
It's a pity that there wasn't complete nudity, but it's not bad either. My eyes are bleeding.
I didn't notice any nudity there; it's just a partially fitted dress. Griffin - in early Heroes 6, the "mega-cool" translation of griffins by 1C.
Added 3 minutes ago I'm starting to have doubts about the Light Maidens; maybe it's just the Priestesses during casting, although no, the Priestesses have a cloak, and the Light Maidens definitely don't. Well, and if there are Light Maidens too, then the Knights won't be happy; there will be 3 girls in Haven right away. Has that ever happened? Well, as I said, the developers made Haven sacred (and added Seraphs and Sun Riders)
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;) Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
Too bad for the Incas, but it seems there were such "messengers of light" before, and only later did they found a church, etc. (+ they also needed to come up with a name for a mage hero among humans). This unit will most likely have magic, because she doesn't hit the enemy up close with her fist. It would look silly if a girl punched a titan or a devil.
As for the artwork with the flying girl, it is quite possible that this was one of the variations of this unit, or that this girl can transform into this thing and become a combat unit.
Regarding the artwork with the flying girl, it's quite possible that this was one of the variations of this unit, or perhaps this girl can transform into this thing and become a combat unit.
Laboule, an insider from the development team, just confirmed that the flying girl and the priestess are two different units.
Added 1 minute ago Morning
Exposed breasts. Somewhat unusual for a nun. But it would be quite unfair not to please the target audience.
Well, in general, yes, but Ubisoft needs to make money...
Added 11 minutes ago I just noticed how they named the upgraded priestesses – "Virgins." A name in the same vein as "Tormentors" and "Maniacs." :)
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;) Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
I think I understand what will happen if you let the demons win the battle.
Something extremely vulgar?
Laboule, an insider from the development team, just confirmed that the flying female unit and the priestess are two different units.
It will be quite interesting if these are two units from Haven. The entire traditional human patriarchy will be flying on griffins (not saying I'm strongly against it, but at least give incubi to the demons!!!111).
I liked the priestesses. Despite the tight dress and neckline, they don't look vulgar or seductive, but rather noble and sublime, as a priestess of a light god could look. They could be an icon right now. However, they were lazy with the upgrade - they just recolored the clothes and added a few details.
After some thought, I came to the conclusion that the new unit is the only thing I currently like about the new Haven.
In general, an interesting picture emerges. Necropolis has three creatures related to the female gender (ghosts, Lamassu, which probably have female faces, and spiderlings). Haven, if those floating maidens are indeed the last unrevealed unit, also has three.
I just noticed how they named the upgraded priestesses - "virgins."
I don't know how the localizers will handle this, but "virgin" in English, in the most literal sense, is "virgin." The word "vestal," however, has a more elevated meaning and implies rather a nun who has taken a vow of chastity.
O God of Earth and Altar, Bow down and hear our cry, Our earthly rulers falter, Our people drift and die, The walls of gold entomb us, The swords of scorn divide, Take not thy thunder from us, Take away our pride.
I don't know how the localization team will handle this, but "virgin" in English literally means "virgin." The word "vestal," however, has a more elevated meaning and implies rather a nun who has taken a vow of chastity.
You're right, the word "vestal" can also be translated as a nun, but it also means virgin, so let's see what our team does.
Added 2 minutes later korrag
Yes, they look cool. I think the daughter of Erathia will be a neutral unit and can be summoned.
It has already been confirmed that the Light Maiden is a Haven unit.
Достоинство человека определяется тем, каким путем он идет к цели, а не тем, достигнет ли он ее.;) Демократия есть одурачивание народа при помощи народа ради блага народа.(Уайльд Оскар)
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