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You know, it wasn't just seen as immoral, but also because women were simply physically weaker than men (of course, there were exceptions). Besides, a woman was usually pregnant at least once every two years – although most children died in infancy – and with such a belly, you can't fight much...
But in general, there were cases when women fought in open battles – I myself remembered something and posted it in the first post on this topic.
Regarding the belittling of men's merits – this is clearly not the case, since for a medieval person:
firstly, a man was definitely so much higher than a woman that such cases would not belittle him;
secondly, the motif of a female warrior is quite popular in various legends (and, by the way, it is presented there as something amazing! The only exception – and I also wrote about this – is Celtic mythology), and, therefore, it attracted the attention of men.
As for combat training for women... I don't know, Archer, where you got this from, but both I and, for example, Marc Bloch, and countless other historians (well, I'm not a historian, of course:D), share the opinion that in the early Middle Ages, in its heyday, and in the late Middle Ages, women were only taught to run a household. They even started teaching them to read and write much later than men. And there were no female alchemists (that's a fact!), and they didn't study at universities (but now we have only girls in psychology:D).
And about Europe, you're exaggerating. In Europe, women were always treated with much more respect than in China or Arab countries – it is enough to say that polygamy appeared in China (although, perhaps, it actually appeared even earlier in the Paleolithic), and in Arab countries, a woman is almost not considered a person (how else to explain the fact that paradise in the Quran is described only for men? As far as I know, nothing is said about what may happen to a woman after death). Women were most respected in Western Europe (chivalrous gallantry:)), and they had the most equal relationships with men among the Vikings – they asked women for consent to marry, they could insist on divorce, and in general – read the sagas and you will be convinced:)

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Yes, and one more thing. I think we've gone completely off-topic about female warriors:( Let's either open a new topic to discuss this issue, or just move on to elves. In the worst case, to elf women;)

Yeah, a real essay about the relationship between the sexes!:D
But I think you're exaggerating a bit....:o
Сила Тьмы - в бессилии света.
Нет невежества - есть Знание
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You're having such an interesting discussion about whether a woman can be a warrior, and yet you haven't mentioned a single woman in your arguments...
Look at all the parts of the Heroes games... there are women everywhere, and quite a few of them...
Especially among the Elves, there are many female characters in the heroes and units...
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Look at all the Heroes games... there are women everywhere, and quite a few of them.
Especially the Elves have many female characters in the Heroes and units...
Let's take a look...
Heroes 1. Sprite - can we consider it a woman? Hmm, wings, pollen... let's say it's a woman.
Dwarf - hmm, no.
Elf - also no.
Druid - and this one is a man too.
Unicorn - hmm, it might be female, but it's still a magical creature.
Phoenix - same as the unicorn.
RESULT: One level 1 woman, and she's a magical creature, just a bit more defined.

Heroes 2. Similar to the first game.

Heroes 3. Centaur - no comment.
Dwarf - still the same.
Elf - again, a man.
Pegasus - here, there's definitely a female (the Valkyrie).
Treant - .....
Unicorn - .....
Dragon - and here's another miss.
RESULT: Again, only one woman.

Heroes 4, and it's not much better....

Heroes 5. Hmm, again, Dryads and that's it...
As for the heroes, in games 3 and 4, there are an equal number of male and female heroes.

In all the other castles, the ones that come to mind are: harpies, medusas, nagas (this is a matter of taste), and from game 5, furies, the Mistress for the Dark Elves, the succubus for Inferno, and the rakshasi for the Academy.
Hmm, there aren't many women in the Heroes games.
Тьма - это то, что позволяет смертным не забывать, как ярок бывает свет.
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Hmm, it seems you're getting a bit carried away... you're fixating on this... I said there are some things in Heroes that need adjusting, especially regarding the units, but women are present in the game... and before discussing this further, at least invite one woman to join the conversation... and by the way, your comments don't mean much... and almost the entire campaign in Heroes 5 is built around women... the queen, Shadia... and in general, there's a cool demoness everywhere...
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The point isn't whether a woman can be a warrior or not. In my opinion, she absolutely can! We're just discussing whether a woman *should* be a warrior, getting her hands dirty in blood and engaging in acts of cruelty she doesn't deserve...
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A woman is the keeper of the hearth.
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I didn't actually say that women shouldn't play or that they played no role in public life! They did, they do, and a huge one at that! But on the battlefield... Well, it's just ahistorical! Of course, everything can be different in fantasy—just look at Salvatore—but if humans are involved, then at least for humans, everything should be like in the Middle Ages! (well, plus magic :))

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And anyway, Prince Arthas is right! I'll even go further—women are the keepers of life.
Do you know that recent data shows that, for example, intellectually women generally surpass men, but the smartest and the stupidest are precisely men?
And it is common knowledge that women are far more prudent and realistic than men and take life much more seriously
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Artes;41902
A woman is the guardian of the hearth.
I agree, women shouldn't be warriors, only mages in a pinch, or diplomats.
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...or stay at home, which is better.
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Silvanis;42009
Intellectually, women generally surpass men, but the smartest and the most foolish are precisely men?
And it is well known that women are much more prudent and realistic than men and take life much more seriously.
That is why far fewer girls play Heroes than boys.
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...or stay at home, which is better.
Maintain the home, because if everyone goes to war, who will take care of pets, nature, and so on? Women should stay at home and make sure it doesn't fall apart.
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I agree with Magnus.
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Artes;42100
I agree with Magnus.
But you can't just give a "+rep" and think that's enough. Or is it just enjoyable to go off-topic and increase your post count with silly comments?
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I'd rather stay silent. I've noticed you've become like an old Ent – all you do is grumble. By the way, this is also off-topic.

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