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#77
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They really love Rampart there, because archers are the strongest. I've had so many fan games with foreign players, and the vast majority of them were against Rampart and Ivora; they rarely pick Mephu. The second most popular castle is Castle (for the same reason – archers), and very few players are good at using melee units.
P.S. Pick Shakti; she's an Ivora killer (because they rarely give him a good tactic).
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Neverminder
Interesting. They currently have 7 reports from the tournament. In only one match involving Wlk777 did neither player choose Ivor as their starting hero. In the other six matches, the elf specialist was consistently present. Even in a Rampart vs. Rampart match. However, his performance has been inconsistent so far: Ivor lost four matches and won only two.
My opponent and I agreed to choose the castles randomly (we eliminated 4 out of 7, as 2 were already eliminated). Someone eliminated Rampart with Ivor. But how should it be done in general? :)
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Ideally, players should only start marking their choices after the 3rd round. Currently, the blue player chooses first, and the red player second (they can choose the same Castle).
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Hermit(blue, dungeon, Shakti, Shakti) loses to yarzapp(red, stronghold, Tyraxor, Tyraxor) 2sm4d(3) 142

    Start with three stacks, troglodytes around 150, but no one suitable to level Shakti on. On the first week, native secondary skill. On the second week, Tower secondary skill. Got bogged down there in the snow, lost a lot of time, took Conservatory 3. Due to griffin morale, lost all 5 manticores and a fair number of troglodytes; however, the eyes are completely intact, and I also captured their external dwelling and built a portal of summoning. At the start of the third week, wanted to head toward the opponent, but Tyraxor's stats lit up as 22, 11, 7, 7, so I called off those plans and went to the treasury. There I took two minimal hives, but made some serious blunders in battles and, despite expert slow, lost many troops. On turn 141, the opponent broke through the double ГО, but I was able to evacuate my growth because he broke through with his own growth. In the second utopia, I realized I would only emerge with the eyes; the capital was lost — no chance.

    Thanks for the game.

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@Wlk777, I've just checked your save with suicid_pe.iarba and his starting zone. Then I noticed your PS.
Wlk777

The opponent has only one path to the Grand Order – if the organizers say to replay, we will replay.
You are wrong. We've added, according to your (HW players) advice, more points for restart regulations before the tournament started. You should read our forum, too. Check here. @Hermit, can you translate it? Thx in adv. IMO, you should play your game one more time. But this is not an order, because sucid should know that. You need to decide what to do.
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Hermit or someone else, please explain simply: is there only one path to GO (Grand Order) through technical support?
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You'll have to replay, Valentin. He says that if you don't want to replay, it's your decision, but you should. It's just that your opponent probably wasn't aware of the new rules regarding the resurrection and therefore didn't take it in time.
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Wlk777
Hermit or someone else, please explain it simply: is there only one road to the Guardian Outpost?
Yes. And according to the rules, even if it's not in the Guardian Outpost (sometimes this happens, there's only one road, but it's not to the Guardian Outpost - the Guardian Outpost is off-road).

Additional restart possibility:
1. If human players (RED/BLUE) meet within 116 turns. Both players can agree to continue the game.
2. If the map is not generated according to the template (2sm4d(3)) specification, i.e.
- there is only one road from the starting zone,
- there is no access to a wood or ore mine within 115 turns (you need to go around terrain obstacles, i.e., mountains, or there is a hard block, i.e., lots of 2-level shooters).

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Wlk777 I just checked your save from suicid_pe.iarba and his starting position. Then I informed you.

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The opponent has only one road to the Guardian Outpost - if the organizers say to replay, we will replay.

We have added more points to the rules about restarts before the tournament began, following the advice of world players. You should also read our forum.
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You should play your game again, but this is just a suggestion, because sucid should have known this rule. You need to decide what to do.
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JonnyJay
You'll have to replay, Valentin. He says that if you don't want to replay, it's your decision, but you should.
It's just that your opponent probably wasn't aware of the new rules regarding the "rest" and therefore didn't take it in time.
Well, I guess I'll have to replay. If my opponent agrees, of course :) But if he messes up again due to a lack of knowledge of the rules, that will be his problem; there won't be a second replay :)
P.S. Damn, there's no mention of the "rest" on a single road in the Grove of Order in the translated rules. I wonder what other surprises there are? =)<
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1. Reschhart 116. (If both players want to continue, let them continue.)
2. If the map is not generated according to the 2sm4d(3) template specification:
- one road from the starting zone
- No access to the sawmill or mine (this must be discovered before the 116th obstacle, which is a mountain or a block of ranged warriors of level 2 or higher).
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Lichemaster, in this case restart should be taken by player when he saw the only one road from his main castle, he should say about that and take a restart, not after game. But Wlk777 is ready to play another game with him if opponent want's to, but the last one=)
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What I want to say in my defense is that the Russian version of the rules that Hermit posted didn't mention tech research when there's only one road to the Grand Order. I don't really feel like reading foreign forums (nor do I have the ability to). I asked my opponent before the game if he was aware of the rules, and he confidently said yes. Still, I would really like to see the COMPLETE text of the rules in Russian. Huge thanks to all the helpers and translators!
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Wlk777
P.S. Damn, the translated rules by Hermit don't even hint at a restart if there's only one road in the game. I wonder what other surprises are in store? =)
So, you see, Valentin, these additions appeared later. I wasn't aware of them either. I played with yarzapp, met him on turn 115, and it seems this early encounter actually benefited me. I glanced at the rules again, saw the additions, was surprised, told my opponent, and he decided to take a restart. But if I hadn't looked at the rules again on turn 115, when we played the first time, we probably would have had the same situation as you.

Here are these additions:

1. Restart on turn 116. (If both players want to continue, let them continue.)
2. If the map is not generated according to the 2sm4d(3) template specification:
- there is only one road from the starting zone
- there is no access to a lumber mill or mine (this must be discovered before turn 116, by an obstacle like a mountain or a block of ranged units of level 2 or higher)

In my defense, I can say that these additions appeared later, in addition to the main version of the rules.
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JonnyJay
Lichemaster, in this case restart should be taken by player when he saw the only one road from his main castle, he should say about that and take a restart, not after game...
Yes,I know that. That's why I don't charge Wlk777 about it. I only noticed his P.S.
So decided to write about these rules, here.
Suicid_pe.iarba hasn't written about it to me, probably he is still unaware of it.
Wlk777, for me you don't have to play one more time. This is your decision. If you want to leave it like it is now, it can be.
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I didn't expect them to decide to add these items.
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