Posts from philosophy

1) I provided my posts solely as an example for Sylvanas. 2) Of course, the concepts of paradise will be diametrically opposed; everyone will have their own paradise. Otherwise, it wouldn't be paradise. 3) There is no paradise on Earth, there never has been, and there never will be. The idea of "paradise on Earth" was invented by people who are afraid to part with life. 4) And who said that getting to paradise is easy? It's not just thorns; it's fences with barbed wire! But it's worth it. And without any propaganda, I'll say: God doesn't give trials that a person cannot overcome.

1) You: God doesn't give people trials they can't overcome.

Yes, really? Then where did the expression "Everything is in God's hands" come from? It turns out that if something doesn't work out, it's "Everything is in God's hands," and if it does work out, it's still "Everything is in God's hands." Where does the person and their trials and overcoming them fit into this...?

Let's start with the fact that I expressed myself incorrectly. I apologize for that. In reality, I meant "God does not give trials that a person cannot overcome." And the phrase "it is all God's will" is out of place here. By the way, Christians use this phrase even less often than atheists do. :) This phrase is applicable in cases when you are, say, walking down the street, minding your own business, and suddenly some thugs come around the corner—"hey buddy, buy a brick." Although overcoming a trial doesn't always mean emerging as the victor. For example: in the aforementioned situation, you have three options: either you charge into attack with a shout of "hurrah!" and get beaten up; you can start humbling yourself before them, saying "take everything, just don't hit me on the head!"; or you can try to talk to them and convince them that they are doing something wrong. In the third case, you will most likely be beaten up too, but in both the first and third cases, it can be considered that you endured this trial, that you overcame it. And "it is all God's will" is for when a person has died. Meaning, their time had come.

Everything happens for a reason.

That's right, because who knows, if you don't encounter these "foreheads," you might have a cobblestone fall on your head around the next corner.

You need to be honest with everyone.

Let's start with the fact that I didn't express myself correctly. I apologize for that. Actually, I meant "God does not give trials that a person cannot overcome." And the phrase "it is all God's will" is out of place here. By the way, Christians use this phrase even less often than atheists do. :)

Let's polemicize:
God created man;) , created woman;) , created paradise and created a tree; as a result, Adam tasted the fruit of the tree, and consequently, you and I appeared. But Adam broke the promise given to God (could not overcome the trial); whether this is good or bad is a second question, the main thing is that you and I exist. I hope that you don't believe your existence doesn't fit into God's plan :) (this refers to the expression about God's will)

Of course, it fits, but regarding Adam's actions: 1) Eve tasted it first, not Adam. 2) Adam didn't overcome this trial because he lacked strength, but because he succumbed to the serpent's temptation. He could have easily told the serpent to go away.

We suffer because of it.

Of course, it fits, but regarding Adam's actions:
1) Eve tasted it first, not Adam.
2) Adam didn't overcome this test not because he lacked strength, but because he succumbed to the serpent's temptation. He could have easily "told" the serpent to go away.

Who tasted it first is not particularly important... the fact is what matters.
He couldn't, otherwise there wouldn't be humanity as such, and we wouldn't be talking about it.

How do you know?

If only, if only... But if your parents hadn't met, you wouldn't exist. And if someone had shot Lenin, there wouldn't have been a revolution, and if... :D

Haven't you heard of something called fate?

Now, the discussion revolves around the problem of the relationship between predestination and free will. I already wrote in one post that free will is one of the key concepts for Christianity; it is also the justification for the existence of evil. According to Christian doctrine, a person has the right to choose in any situation – to choose good or evil. This does not mean that there are only two ways of behaving in any situation! There may be some intermediate options, more or less evil, more or less good. And a person HIMSELF decides whether to act kindly or maliciously; he decides in accordance with his ideas about good and evil, and he decides this question even when he does not consciously think about it. Christian moral norms are only the most general recommendations for behavior; it is obvious that it is impossible to give a list of commandments for each specific situation! Now, regarding predestination, God's will, etc. The idea here is that God, when creating the world, created all possible scenarios for its development – that is, Adam could break the prohibition, or he could not break it. Then everything would have been different :) And this idea – that he could have done it, or he could not have done it, and that different results come from this – is also very important. God is something that does not belong to the world and is not constrained by either space or time; being outside of time, he sees all possible paths of development. And a person's life – in this context – is a very long sequence of situations. A person finds himself in situation A; there are several ways out of it, and depending on which path he chooses, he will be presented with one of the possible next situations. In other words, it does not depend on a person what situations will be presented to him (that is, on the one hand, it depends, since he determines this with his actions, and on the other hand, it does not depend, since the person himself often cannot even remotely imagine what will happen to him tomorrow; that is, he can imagine it :D, but it is unlikely that he can guess). But it does depend on him how these situations will be resolved. That's how it is :)

In my opinion, the most beautiful depiction of paradise is Valhalla, where valiant warriors, even after death, stand guard for the righteous cause. They feast while awaiting Ragnarok...
For me personally, there is no better paradise.

They are feasting while waiting for Ragnarok...
For me personally, there is no better paradise.

Well, go ahead and feast until the second coming :D I would like to see how you will wave your two-handed sword afterwards.

No offense.