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Posts from Mafia 20. Radioactive Dreams.Auto-translated
Okay... I'm just starting to read the messages left after the second night. I'll comment on a couple of posts. Sunny!
Is there some other Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) besides the murder itself? Arandora was definitely killed, at least because there's a clue in the newspaper related to this event.
Who knows about cars?
I agree that there was an attempt on Arandora's life. But it should be noted that no clues are given for unsuccessful murders, except for the one that was planted. And this means that the clue about the old German cars is planted!
Ple-Sen
By the way, here's a theory, although it's still raw. It says that the thirteenth player is Deriel_Linch, because he has brushes in his signature. But there's one inconsistency. The fact is that he last appeared on the 25th, and therefore either he wasn't active, or he was sending NDAs through ICQ.
There are no other ideas yet, although this one is doubtful.
Since Dariel hasn't auto-killed yet, it means that he either sends NDAs at night or he's playing in some kind of mafia team. I'm inclined to think that he's playing in a team. Therefore, if he suddenly appears unexpectedly and doesn't auto-kill after that day, then serious accusations can be made against him.
P.S. I'm going to read on.
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I've reread all your posts now... 1. Nowhere do you try to find clues about the Cylinders. 2. As soon as night falls, you immediately describe the vision of events, and some of them are very accurate, which is easier for the Mafia to do. 3. You often agree with the thoughts of other players in order to soften their attitude towards you. 4. You reacted immediately with aggression to my post that you might be Mafia, even though I hadn't stated that yet. 5. By calling my thoughts "barbaric," you may have decided not to kill me at night so that you could fabricate evidence against me and systematically execute me. 6. But it seems you didn't figure out who would fabricate the evidence, and you both drew attention to yourselves... 7. You don't even want to hear reasonable objections, and your goal is to have me executed...
I conclude that you are a Cylinder... And I probably won't change my vote to have you executed!
I agree that there was an assassination attempt on Arandor. But it should be taken into account that no clues are given for unsuccessful assassinations, except for the one that was planted. This means that the clue about the old Necropolis vehicles is planted!
An assassination is considered unsuccessful only in the case of a block; however, the newspaper clearly shows that Ar was attacked but survived. This leads to the conclusion that he is one of those who has a chance of "survival." So, the clue is normal.
Added 5 minutes later
1. You don't try to find clues on the cylinders anywhere.
On the first day, there were none; an Illusionist was the killer. On the second day, there are no obvious clues, and similar accusations can be made against all active players.)
4. You reacted to my post about the possibility that you are Mafia with immediate aggression, even though I hadn't stated that yet.
With suspicion, not aggression.
6. But it seems you haven't figured out who will be fabricating the clues with the companion, and you both drew them...
If we were really allies, we would have discussed everything and carefully planned it; we're not newbies.)
Murder is only considered unsuccessful in the case of a block; however, the newspaper clearly shows that Ar was attacked but survived. This suggests that he is one of those with a chance of "survival." Therefore, the clue is valid.
I must be missing something.... If the victim survived, then the murder was unsuccessful. And it doesn't matter why the victim survived. Am I wrong?
I read to the end. Phoenix, the fact that the machines are very old doesn't change anything. 400 years, 450 years, or 500 years – the difference isn't significant.
The clue for Phoenix is good, but I think it was planted.
Added after 21 minutes Now I'll share my thoughts on the clues.
I suspect that the 13th suspect is Hermit. On the first night, the clue "stab wounds" pointed to him. And in his profile, there is a sword that looks like a combat knife.
On the second night, the clue "a trail that a dog can smell" points to him. He has horses in his profile. And dogs, as far as I know, can smell horse trails well.
After the first night, Medji gave a good interpretation of the clue pointing to Nera.
Regarding the murder of Koteyka. The clue is "automatic weapon," and this clue points to Sunny. He has an automatic weapon in his avatar.
Added after 2 hours 4 minutes I'm not sure about the Hermit theory. But for now, I don't see anything better...
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I also wanted to add... ummm... that you are very beautiful... Naira...
O_o.
It's fine, she likes such "compliments".
Not at all, you're lying =P
Charming lady, could you clarify what "Kote" means? I don't understand this abbreviation... Sorry...
My bad, a stupid habit... And Kote is Koteiko) Also known as Amko, also known as Amaranth, also known as Night Nazgul :smile04:
And anyway, Arandor, as a dying DDG, you shouldn't have revealed that Mold is in your group
Such occurrences are not uncommon in XW mafias, but almost always such an opinion leads to a misconception. Moreover, the mafia will most likely turn out to be those from whom we least expect it.
Besides, if Ar is DDG, then he will die tomorrow. That's when you can make claims against him. Right now, he might even be anti-faith.
Damn, I feel sorry for Hostor, you heartless bastards!!
And yes, from the fact that you will constantly repeat: "Aaaa! You're mafia, you've been caught long ago! Aaaa, let's execute him..." - you won't achieve anything, but will just blindly accuse each other, which clearly doesn't make things better.
I agree that there was an assassination attempt on Arandor. But it should be noted that failed kills don't provide clues, except for the one that was planted. This means the clue about old German cars is planted!
Something's off with me, because I thought so too...
They weren't there on the first day, the Illusionist was doing the killing.
Everyone will have a laugh if it turns out the clue was...
If we were truly allies, we would have discussed everything and carefully planned it out, we're not newbies after all )
Knowing Arandor, I agree, he would have knocked some sense into you if something didn't suit him ^__^.
Damn, I feel bad for Hostor, you heartless bastards!!
I think this should have been said in the singular. ;)
He's just one person. And it would be pretty good to find him. There are already 2 clues pointing to him.
I'll comment on another post. Arandor
clues for the 13th
A bloody inscription was found on the wall: I will bring the End of the World! I am the offspring of the Apocalypse!
Here's where a clue is located. I'm leaning towards the phrase End of the World, specifically the second word. We have many people from the Haven faction: me, Gur, Azi... maybe someone else
Regarding the Haven faction - this is an incorrect interpretation of the clue, as the clue should be interpreted unambiguously. That is, it cannot simultaneously point to three people.
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My opinion regarding the roles of the killed players.
Koteiko - Stronghold. Xostor - possibly a Warlock. Although I'm not sure.
Regarding who is the Mafia. I've thought about it again, and in my opinion, the most obvious candidate right now is Sunny. Therefore, I vote to execute Sunny!, as I believe he is guilty of killing Koteiko.
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Yes, you guys really settled in – you were discussing things all night! I barely managed to read through all those words.
Regarding the brush – Deriel has a picture with brushes in his hands, and this was already mentioned. I also want to draw your attention to Lizard's signature – it's a quote from Salvador Dali. Could we somehow connect it to the brush?
Regarding Hostor – the idea of his duality (him and his wife) is constantly repeated. Maybe he was a double evil eye (or something like that)?
Sunny is always singing. Suspicious. It clearly resembles death.
No one has canceled Neyra's white sandals yet.
The clue about Phoenix is good. And he's too nervous. ;) *Going to think some more.
By the way, I was talking about your photos, not your avatar... You're an angel ;) ... and your signature has somehow already stuck in my head...Neira Drake
My bad, a stupid habit... And Kate, that's Koteiko) Also known as Amko, also known as Amarant, also known as Knight Nazgul altogether :smile04:
Thanks! For some reason I didn't catch on right away...Neira Drake
Such phenomena are not uncommon in HW mafia games, only almost always such an opinion leads to confusion. Moreover, the mafia will most likely turn out to be those from whom we least expect it.
I'm more confident now that Mold is from the Cylinders, he's giving himself away terribly! And the fact that he's slipping up is explained very simply - my made-up accusation on the first day against several players knocked him off balance... it was a kind of psychological blow... Hoster, for example, successfully deflected it because he was a townie... Megi ignored it... Put yourself in the shoes of a townie who's had some ridiculous clue pinned on them? Now put yourself in the shoes of a mafioso who has a clue pinned on them implicating another mafioso - it's probably very annoying))) and you want to execute the accuser... exactly execute... which is what Mold is trying to do ;) Neira Drake
Besides, if Ar is a DDG, then he'll die tomorrow. Save your complaints for him then. Right now he could even be an anti-fire.
Well, I'm not planning to execute Arandor ;) He'll probably die on his own ;) Neira Drake
I'm being a bit dull, because I thought so too...
Looks like they decided to forget about that)))Neira Drake
We'll all have a good laugh if it turns out the clue was real...
From the first day, his certainty that it was exactly the Illusionist again works against Mold, although that's not necessarily the truth... He's probably the Illusionist himself and that's his kill... and again, he's just slipping up...
And now about the birds - The current clue against the Cylinders - an automatic weapon! It's possessed by: Tengro, Sanya, Majorson
If we look at Sanya's involvement in the attempt to sink me, could it be that he's another Cylinder and their whole team has already exposed themselves?
Added after 16 minutes Maybe Hoster was also a Cylinder... But if, as you say, he's a master... then it was easy for him to evade... But Mold, in this case, might have been doubly affected... some made-up clues immediately pointing at 2 Cylinders... he considered me a crazy lucky guy and decided to execute me from the very start, but not at night so no one would think it was him))) especially since he had already moved) Convince the public that the clues point to me, and that I'm writing gibberish)))
By the way, my proposal to execute Hoster was a joke in a literary style - like I came to the gathered crowd in the square - "What are you all discussing here*?" I pointed a finger at random and said, "let's execute him ;)" Then my accusations against 3 players were almost baseless, but presented as options without proposing to execute anyone... And from Mold there was immediate, unambiguous aggression - "I'm actually going to hang Phoenix, for his strange theories." - so he said
Regarding Haven – this is an incorrect interpretation of the clue.
Why is that? You know, this is a clue about the serial killer, and since it's the first one, it could very well point to all three of them at once. I don't know how it was with you, but we've already encountered something similar, and it's perfectly normal.
Added 3 minutes later Hey, why didn't you find any hint about Koteika's role as the killer? Usually, something indicates it, but this time, no one even wrote about it.
Added 1 minute later On the first day, it was almost obvious that the illusionist was among the cylinders, but what about today?
Added 1 minute later Okay, do as you wish, but I'm voting for Phoenix's execution. Then we need to take a closer look at Hermit, Deriel, Guru... and Azi :O. One of them is definitely the serial killer, maybe even more than one (this is my advice!)
Gur, I explained why in the thread. I'm too lazy to look for it.
Phoenix, DDG clearly doesn't have pistols.
by the way, Register...
Regarding the Haven, this is an incorrect interpretation of the clue, as the clue should be interpreted unambiguously. That is, it cannot simultaneously point to three people.
You write this, but you yourself suggested a clue that fits three people (Tegr, Sunny, Medj)! And why is my clue wrong then? Hmm?))) Either you're covering for someone, or you're trying to frame someone. IMHO
Added 2 minutes ago So yes, take a closer look at Register too, although there is no evidence against him yet.
Why is that? You know, this is a clue to the identity of the serial killer, and since it's the first one, it could potentially point to three suspects at once. I don't know how it was in your case, but we've encountered something similar before, and it was perfectly normal.
Hmm... I'll keep that in mind... So, the option that it's the Haven faction might actually be correct.
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Arandor!
You misunderstood me: I saw suggestions about these 4 players in the thread. But why are only they mentioned by you as possible cheaters? Why, for example, not you?
With bewilderment,
Gur
Registr
Ple-Sen
