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Offline Драккошка
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Which one exactly?) In the world of Ashan, all races are clearly divided into conditionally "evil" and conditionally "good" ones.
If you put in a little effort, you can attack neutrals, wizards, sylvan elves, and dungeon creatures.
The swamp doesn't appear anywhere in the lore.
The developers' ways are mysterious...
Nagas? *_*
А, вот почему.

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Title: Heroes of Might and Magic VI
Russian title: Герои Меча и Магии 6
Developer: Black Hole Entertainment.
Publisher (international): Ubisoft
Publisher (Russia): Unknown
Localization: Unknown
Official website: www.mmh6.com
Release date: 2011
Game description:
-The events of Heroes 6 take place in the world of Ashan, 400 years before the events of Heroes 5.
-The main characters are five siblings of noble blood, leading five warring kingdoms.
-Brief background: Paul, Emperor of the Griffin dynasty, is killed by his own daughter Anastasia. Anastasia is executed for this, but is resurrected as a vampire. Anton, Paul's eldest son, is supposed to inherit the throne, but he is a bit "not all there." Cyril, Anastasia's twin brother, is so devastated by his sister's death that he allows a demon to possess his soul.
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Title: Heroes of Might and Magic VI
Russian title: Герои Меча и Магии 6
Title: Might and Magic: Heroes VI
Russian title: ??? (depends on the localizers; they left the English title on the box of the 5th game).

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The developers' ways are mysterious...
Nagas? *_*
On one forum, they even seriously suggested that Nagas could be the 5th faction, neutral in their beliefs, and the symmetry would be preserved. But no matter how you look at it, Mages and Elves are traditionally good, and it is unlikely that this will change.
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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On one forum, there was even a serious suggestion that the 5th faction could be Nagas, who are neutral in their beliefs, and the symmetry would be preserved. But no matter how you look at it, Mages and Elves are traditionally good, and it's unlikely that will change.
Then yes, Elves/Mages and Nagas. The symmetry is preserved until the first expansion with new factions. Although I have vague doubts that the developers will mix standard factions and be happy about it...
Regarding the neutrality of the Elves, after Adepts, they fit perfectly into this role.
А, вот почему.

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Drakkosha
Back then, yes, it was elves/mages and nagas. The symmetry is maintained until the first expansion with new races. Although I have vague doubts that the developers will mix standard races and be happy about it...
Regarding the neutrality of the elves, after Adepts, I'm not sure, because they fit perfectly into this role there.
The fourth race will be elves, at least this is indirectly justified on foreign forums, the developers mentioned something briefly about light elves. But with the fifth race, nothing is clear yet. In any case, how do completely new, neutral nagas fit into the plot about brother-sister-murder? After all, each race in the campaign will be represented by a brother/sister. In my opinion, it's not an option.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

God save us everyone
Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Offline Майор Вихрь
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By the way, about Nagas: The artwork is from the development of Heroes 5. But they never implemented this race in the game, although there are rumors that they could have implemented it in the third add-on, which was ultimately not released.
In any case, how do completely new neutral Nagas fit into the plot about sibling rivalry and murder? After all, each race in the campaign will be represented by a brother or sister.
Just because Nagas aren't entirely humanoid? Of course, it might seem somewhat contrived, but it can be made to work. Something like Mowgli, raised by Nagas, an illegitimate son of the king, suddenly learns about his father's death and somehow finds out that he is actually his father, and decides to assert his rights to the throne along with his brothers. By the way, I think that the elf hero will be connected to the elves in a similar way. Or maybe he will be half-human, half-elf. But the story will be roughly the same.
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O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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The fourth race will be elves; at least, this was indirectly substantiated on foreign forums, and the developers briefly mentioned light elves. As for the fifth race, nothing is clear yet. In any case, how do the completely new, neutral Nagas fit into the plot about sibling rivalry and murder? After all, each race in the campaign will be represented by a brother or sister. In my opinion, this is not a viable option.
For now, only three races are involved, and the Nagas are just an assumption to maintain "balance." I hope they add them in an expansion; at the very least, a new race would be to my liking :E
There are rumors that they could have implemented it in the 3rd expansion, which never came out.
And why didn't they implement it?...
Only, the head and chest seem a bit strange... I won't say anything about the arms; I gave one of my races eight of them, which is even more amusing and bizarre...
Something like Mowgli, raised by Nagas, an illegitimate son of the king, suddenly learns about his father's death and, somehow, that he is his father, and decides to assert his rights to the throne along with his brothers.
That's not bad at all. Although, I think I've heard this somewhere, or am I hallucinating?...
Or he will be half-human, half-elf.
And what? An illegitimate child. Especially if it's a half-elf with big boobs
А, вот почему.

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Very beautiful and powerful Nagas in Demigods, if anyone remembers. But they probably won't make Nagas a playable race; more likely, they will be just one unit in an army, nothing more.
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But it’s unlikely they’ll make a Naga race; more likely, it will be a unit in an army, nothing more.
Three or four units (warrior, archer, mage, and some other outlandish unit) and a hero. You can call it a race and be happy. The Dwarves were made on this principle, and that’s fine. Although, with Nagas, you could add various creatures, like my favorite manticores, for example.
А, вот почему.

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And why wasn't it implemented?
Ubisoft was quite open to the idea that the sixth installment of Heroes would also be developed by Nival, but after Tribes of the East, Nival shifted its focus towards developing and supporting online games. I think that's the reason.
Армия баранов под предводительством льва сильнее армии львов под предводительством барана.

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Will we burn inside the fires of a thousand suns...
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Generally, it's a bad tradition to change developers. I don't foresee Nag being insightful – I'll have to describe where they disappeared to. //And also – I'm introducing an absurd assumption about the neutrality of the Necropolis faction. It's completely absurd, because I don't want to waste time searching the internet for information on this topic, but the main villain of "Dark Messiah" adhered to neutrality and "guardian" ethics. But one video/phrase will be enough to refute this...




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"Мы не поклонники честной игры, если ее можно избежать. Девиз Отряда – максимальная эффективность при минимальном риске." Костоправ
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The Naga race doesn't appeal to me at all. I didn't like the Dwarves in the 5th game... Okay, you can find creatures for the Elves in the forest, Ents, Unicorns, and so on. But for the Dwarves, they came up with all sorts of Thanes, and a dragon made of lava for some reason =\ In general, they shouldn't have divided them like that. I liked the mixes better, even if they weren't always logical). True, the Fortress in the 3rd game looked simply amazing, even with Elves and Dwarves, because there the Dwarves were forest dwellers.

As for the campaigns in the 6th game, I can assume that the Necromancer heroine will be quite unoriginal and boring. Just a typical evil child of a king, craving the throne... At least they changed the gender and made her a vampire, because Necromancers are usually male.
But the weak-willed and sad son, Anton, who sold his soul to the devil, and the strange *I don't remember his name*, who talks to angels, might be interesting. At least they have already intrigued me, and I'm curious to see how they are portrayed; maybe I'll like them.

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I hope they make the female vampire a "female Archibald." That would be quite interesting, wouldn't it? And the king, so ill that he converses with angels – I've seen something like that before. I wonder where...? Hmm, a riddle for the night... The king is a fanatic. I wonder if they'll develop this storyline with the fanatic king, or will he just be a psycho?




"Мы не герои. Мы сильны. Мы упрямы. Мы стараемся соблюдать условия контракта. Но мы не умираем за проигравших." Костоправ


"Мы не поклонники честной игры, если ее можно избежать. Девиз Отряда – максимальная эффективность при минимальном риске." Костоправ
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We push one race into the neutrals and just sit there enjoying it.


Most likely, these will be mage-warlocks!

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Thanks, and I, the fool, took leadership and luck. Now I'll know which skills are correct.

:D :D :D Believe me, I've played with such people a couple of times - those who chose skills almost randomly.
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//And another thing – I'm making an absurd assumption about the neutrality of the undead. It's completely absurd, because I don't want to waste time searching the internet for information on this topic, but the main villain of "Dark Messiah" adhered to neutrality and a "guardian" ethic. But one video/phrase is enough to refute this...
That's exactly it. Arantir is definitely not a good guy. But somewhere, I can't remember where exactly, it was mentioned that he was actually concerned about maintaining the balance of power between good and evil, and the balance was clearly tilting towards evil. He released the demons from Shi'o, the Dark Messiah (according to prophecy, this is equivalent to the end of the world). So, it really does seem like some kind of neutral position. And if necessary, this guy could also "do good" in a bad way.
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as for the campaigns in the 6th game, I can assume that the female necromancer hero will be quite unoriginal and boring. Just a typical evil child of a king, craving the throne... at least they changed the gender and made her a vampire, because necromancers are always male.
So, it seems that there will be a serious struggle for the throne, and if they are willing to tear each other apart for power, then there is no need to expect noble knights on white horses, kind elf environmentalists, or mages defending the ideals of good.

The developers definitely skimped on the dwarves. 6 different variations of fat dwarves and only one non-dwarfish creature (although, in my opinion, it's quite good).
O God of Earth and Altar,
Bow down and hear our cry,
Our earthly rulers falter,
Our people drift and die,
The walls of gold entomb us,
The swords of scorn divide,
Take not thy thunder from us,
Take away our pride.

G.K. Chesterton: English Hymnal
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