4th Interportal Tournament of HMM3-OFF: "Fire Magic" — Tournament history (offline)

_KAP_

7/21/2010 8:14 PM UTC

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Thanks also for the save files; we'll take a look. And here's a question: are there any links to tutorials...? Because some moments are completely unclear; sometimes the hero barely moves, and other times he's on the opposite side of the map with full health and three bonuses. Thanks in advance.

Entomb

7/22/2010 2:37 AM UTC

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Hello!)))
It was clear from the start, after the initial analysis, that the map could be completed in one day. Therefore, everything came down to the parameters. I played without Liches because I didn't realize that it was possible to accumulate enough resources for artifacts. So, I guess I'm still young and don't see the full potential of the map.
I looked at the saves, thank you very much!)))
Also, a description would be helpful (I have a couple of questions).
The only thing I didn't like was the final action. Let me explain why: I took the book, and the game registered a victory when I took the artifact. I only accidentally discovered that I needed to hide the hero at the very end, and I didn't have the time or energy to replay. Plus, this situation could shock new players even more than it shocked me. Although, most likely, this is a good option that can put the player in a confusing situation only once.)))
I think we should introduce a third victory condition, because two 1/120 conditions seem a bit weak. If there hadn't been a Lich generator on the map, I could have also achieved the maximum score, and there would have been three winners.)))
How I flatter myself!)))
The tournament was a success! Thank you all! Kostya, special thanks to you!

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_KAP_

7/22/2010 9:05 AM UTC

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Entomb

A description would also be helpful (I have a couple of questions).

Yes, yes!! :smile01: It would be great...) and it would also be great to get some advice on certain battles...)

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Dirty_Player

7/22/2010 1:19 PM UTC

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Entomb

Also, a description would be desirable (I have a couple of questions).

Go ahead, don't be shy. I think the winners will be happy to answer you.

I was very pleased by one quote from the portal

Sir phenix, 22.07.2010 08:57
I took the Crystal external dwelling with an upgraded Harpy

At least one person tried this idea. HOORAY!!!

I'm also tormented by a question. Did the Cloak of the Undead King spoil or improve the save? Was it necessary? :confused:

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Tolikandro

7/22/2010 4:15 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

I am also tormented by a question. Did the Cloak of the Undead King spoil or improve the save? Was it necessary? :confused:

I, for example, completed it without it (didn't notice it), with it everything seems much easier to solve, without it you have to be clever and economize... for some it's better to keep it simple, for others to be clever... I like simple when I have little time, and clever when I have plenty )))

Война фигня! Главное - маневры!!
А так играют Мастера! :smile13:

pHOMM

7/22/2010 5:38 PM UTC

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May I ask if my program was used to determine the placement of the dragon cave, so that there would be an obstacle pocket in the battle that is inaccessible to the crystal dragon? I am curious, and I would be very happy if my program did indeed help in realizing such an idea.

Инфа о разных моих проектах, по большей части геройских, тут http://phomm.narod.ru

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Dirty_Player

7/22/2010 5:51 PM UTC

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pHOMM

May I ask if my program was used to determine the placement of the dragon cave, so that there would be a pocket of obstacles in the battle that would be inaccessible to the crystal dragon?

Nope. I just checked all 1296 cells :rolleyes:
The map was started on July 5, 2009!!! At that time, your program didn't exist, right? So it took exactly a year to create it :eek:

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Ivanhoj

7/22/2010 6:04 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

I'm also bothered by the same question. Did the Cloak of the Undead King spoil or improve the save? Was it necessary? :confused:

I'm for it. Even though I don't like playing as Necromancer, here I simply saw no alternative.

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_KAP_

Thanks also for the saves, we'll study them..)
and right away a little question: could you give some links to learning materials...?)
because some moments are completely unclear what's happening.. sometimes the hero has almost no movement, sometimes at the other end of the map with full movement and even with three pluses..)
thanks in advance..)

Read the "Hall of Fame" — in the threads of the recent tournaments on Heroes III, there are good descriptions.
In particular, movement points are replenished by repeatedly visiting the oasis: attack, retreat, buy back - into the oasis, if you have a lot of gold, you can even get all the way to China.

Военное дело просто и вполне доступно здравому уму человека. Но воевать сложно.

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Dirty_Player

7/22/2010 6:05 PM UTC

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We already have an article written: "How to play speed tournaments?" But for some reason, I haven't posted it on the forum yet.

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Kluka

7/22/2010 6:54 PM UTC

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Dirty_Player

One quote from the portal really pleased me
At least one person has looked into this idea. HURRAY!!!

IMHO this is not sufficiently thought out, as it does not provide a significant advantage over those who did not use this tactic.
I lost 1 angel and 6 demons in it, playing with a zero-level hero, and I don't consider these losses critical.

Dirty_Player

I am also tormented by a question. Did I spoil or improve the save with the Cloak of the Undead King? Was it necessary? :confused:

IMHO it had no effect. The main beauty of the map is in the period before capturing the utopia, and then it becomes a struggle for a quantitative result (sum of parameters).
PS. Consider the reasoning null if the Cloak of the Undead King was collected before capturing the utopia
(haven't read the description yet).

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Phenix3

7/23/2010 5:49 AM UTC

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Dirty_Player

At least one person has explored this idea. HURRAY!!!

I also have a nagging question. Did the Cloak of the Undead King spoil or improve the save? Was it necessary? :confused:

Unfortunately, I started the game too late and didn't get to finish it... maybe I would have competed for the lead :)
Cloak of the Undead King - I think it would have been better without it. In principle, I wasn't planning to buy it...
As for the parameters, I agree, the maximum wasn't taken on the map...
Parameter 121 could have been taken... but 122, I'm not sure...

The idea of taking down the dragons, robbing the naga bank, the cyclops dwelling with the dwarf, and using the upgraded harpy to grab the external crystal dwelling was really enjoyable)
And aside from that, the map is superb!
Thanks to the author! ;)

є(°¤°)э Мадара где-то рядом...

Sensej

7/26/2010 12:16 PM UTC

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crystals from a gray-skinned harpy???
Is this without magic?
So, you need to play one battle for five days.
Or tell me how.
I took both crystals with one Ifrit Sultan.

pHOMM

7/27/2010 9:47 AM UTC

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Like this ))))

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Инфа о разных моих проектах, по большей части геройских, тут http://phomm.narod.ru

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AmberSoler

7/27/2010 4:35 PM UTC

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pHOMM

That's how it is.

Let's add that the autobattle takes from one to one and a half hours, depending on the animation speed and the level of the Attack skill. My harpy attacked at a rate of 24 hits per minute... :smile19: You can run the battle in the background and watch a movie in the meantime... :D

Сначала было слово...
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