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Did Britva file a protest? Did he send saves of his games? Did he ask to be unbanned? Or should the Supreme and all the Masters of the Portal be telepaths?
At first, I was very outraged and surprised that a person could be banned on the forum without any investigation. But one of the Portal members pointed me to another HeroesWorld forum which I liked more, and I stopped bothering.

About six months later, I had the honor of playing with NeoEndi, who turned out to be a Master at HeroesPortal at the time. He offered to look into this ban.

I agreed and provided him with all the requested info, but made it clear that I was largely indifferent to the resolution of this issue and did not intend to return. Then I tried to find out from Neo how it all ended. He replied that he was waiting for explanations from Vigo, and that he hadn't received all the logs from me :confused: After that, I finally gave up
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Player Vitalik was not banned. CMCH simply means that he cannot participate in tournaments, if I'm not mistaken. P.S. The case with Andrey is telling. In general, it's not the player who should prove their honesty; that would be self-disrespecting in this case. Instead, they should be presented with evidence of their dishonest gameplay. It seems like this is just common sense, something even a seven-year-old would understand.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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Player Vitalik wasn't banned. "ЧМЧ" simply means that he can't participate in tournaments, if I'm not mistaken.

P.S. The case with Andrey is telling. In general, it's not the player who should prove their honesty; that would be self-demeaning. Instead, they should be presented with evidence of their dishonest play.

It seems like common sense, something even a seven-year-old would understand.
I remember a player named Catch being banned by one of the admins for violating tournament rules. For attempting to clarify and justify himself, player Catch was banned by the admin "forever" - an exclusive right of the Creator, by the way. If a sufficiently large number of "mediocre" and "low-ranking" players hadn't reacted to this, let's say, vehemently, then everything would have remained as it was.

So, there are idiots everywhere - don't make this an exclusive trait of Heroes of Might and Magic.
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In general, it shouldn't be the player who has to prove their honesty; that's tantamount to disrespecting oneself. Instead, evidence of their dishonest play should be presented to them.

I repeat, I won't claim whether Britva was banned fairly or not; I don't know. He was banned by the then-current online master of the Third Age. Each master has the right to ban. Naturally, as the host of the Second Age offline events, I didn't interfere, and it somehow passed me by. Nevertheless, I don't rule out that Vigo might have acted unfairly, as this has been observed with him before. To initiate an investigation into his activities, all that was needed was to write a few words to the address I posted above. I, for example, know that he banned one player even during his infamous tournament. Absolutely unfairly. Essentially, only because that player won against Vitalik. Now the player has been unbanned. Although he still doesn't play. Again, we are always ready to admit our mistakes if they actually occurred.
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I remember that one of the hosts banned the player Catch for violating the tournament rules. For attempting to clarify and justify himself, the player Catch was banned by the host "forever" - an exclusive right of the Creator, by the way. If a sufficiently large number of "second-tier" and "third-tier" players hadn't reacted to this, let's say, vehemently, everything would have remained as it was.

I'm not bringing this up. Back then, if the entire forum (except Alex_R) hadn't rallied to my defense, who knows what would have happened.
Школа начального мастерства по Вторым Героям.

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As far as I understand, “Permanent Ban” simply means that he cannot participate in tournaments.
Formally, it doesn’t even mean that. It simply indicates that instances of cheating have been confirmed for the player in question. Whether to accept him or not into a tournament is up to the organizer. However, the organizer will likely not accept him even if he believes the “Permanent Ban” is undeserved, because many players might simply refuse to participate in the tournament. But, in fact, the “Permanent Ban” itself doesn’t prohibit participation in any tournaments, as far as I understand.
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
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It seems that Britva and Vlk are either the same person or very close friends. :)
We invite these two great Heroes masters to Moscow for a meeting and a demonstration game in person to change opinions about these people and offer public apologies if they are decent.
I can scrape together enough for a room in an average hotel for a day and lunch/dinner. Can you find a way to get them here?
Welcome! Maybe these guys are actually good and honest, and we were wrong about them.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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I invite these two great Heroes masters to Moscow for a meeting and a demonstration game in person to change opinions about these people and offer public apologies, if they are decent.
I can scrape together enough for a room in an average hotel for a day and lunch/dinner. Can you find a way to get them here?
Welcome! Maybe these guys are actually good and honest, and we were wrong about them :(
Damn, I have a lot to say about Vigo, but these are the words of a true man!
Respect!

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Possible actions of the Warlock League Council (WLC) regarding Vigo's offer to come to Moscow:
1. Refusal without explanation - 30%
2. Refusal for "valid" reasons - 30%
3. Agreement, but with setting their own conditions (which will most likely lead to stalling) - 30%
4. Agreement to come in the near future - 1%
5. Other option - 9%
I can't say anything about the "razor" - I don't know him well enough.
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Heh, does Vigo promise to pay for something? Funny, you idiot. And why should I go somewhere and prove anything? A recent poll about my unban showed that the vast majority of players respect and trust me. But nobody plays with Vigo except for newbies; let him first prove his integrity (which many doubt for good reason), and then we can talk.
P.S. By the way, has anyone seen Loser in real life? Maybe he and Vigo are the same person?
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Dude, I have a lot of things to say about Vigo, but these are the words of a real man!

I've heard a lot of things from Vigo, especially about money. Unfortunately, just words don't make a man. Maybe Mr. Vigo should start by paying off his $700 debt to the Portal, and then he can start inviting guests over?
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I'm afraid that the questions about the 700-dollar debt of a "real man" and "honest guy" Vigo, as well as about the existence in reality of the player Loser (who started playing at Vigo's level, which, in my opinion, cannot be achieved through lessons without practice) – in short, both of these questions will remain unanswered. Or Vigo will lie again, like he lied about the games with Britva, and when he is cornered, he will shut up. I'm not just afraid, but I'm sure of it.

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Then Neo tried to find out what happened in the end? He says that he is waiting for an explanation from Vigo, and he didn't get all the logs from me: confused:
Great justice on the portal :D
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Maybe Mr. Vigo should first pay off his debt to the Portal in the amount of $700?
Of course he will pay it off when the time comes. Everyone received their prize money, and my relationship with the portal's manager is my own business. I don't really understand what that has to do with anything, or with HeroesWorld, but oh well, since they're asking - I answered.

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By the way, has anyone seen Looser in real life? Maybe he and Vigo are the same person?

Well then, come on over and I'll introduce you; he's actually a group 2 disabled person and can barely walk, but I'll try to persuade him to meet such an honest, decent, and respected person!
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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Everyone received their prizes, and my relationship with the portal manager is our business.

You're wrong, there's a third party involved, and thanks to them, everyone received their prizes.
Школа начального мастерства по Вторым Героям.

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You're mistaken, there is a third party in this matter, thanks to whom all the prize money was actually received.

We are very grateful to you for that! Just don't flaunt it in our faces if you truly helped resolve that issue from the heart back then — wait for the return, and that'll be it, and we'll forget it like a bad dream. But by blowing this up here, you won't make the money come any faster — you'll only clutter up the thread, which is meant for other topics.
Всё будет хорошо!!! Только неизвестно когда... НО ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО БУДЕТ!!!
Но!...
Слушай всех, прислушивайся к немногим, решай сам...

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We are very grateful to you for this! Just don't flaunt it if you really helped sincerely. Let's resolve this issue then, wait for the return and that's it, and forget it like a bad dream. But by blowing this all up here—it won't add any money, only clutter the thread, which is meant for other questions.
Vitya, to be honest, what's stinging is something else. First you promise cognac at Bay Besh, then here you invite Volk and Britva over at your own expense, but in reality it turns out quite differently...
Школа начального мастерства по Вторым Героям.

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To Vigo: thanks for the offer, but there's no reason to trust you yet. Regarding the claim that wlk777 and I are the same person, that's quite a statement :D I live in Lviv, and as far as I know, he lives in Volgograd. First, settle your debts and provide all the details about the ban on the portal, and then we'll see. By the way, how is Loser doing? He visited the forum in April, but why hasn't he written anything? Wasn't he even banned, or given a warning? Has the best Fortress player lost interest in the game, and is he playing under a different nickname now? Why is the style of his reports so similar to yours?
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