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7/14/2010 9:18 PM UTC #26808

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Morning

Although it's more dynamic than that talentless, empty Morrowind, I'll admit it.

Morrowind is the best RPG. Gothic II is FFFFUUUUUUU. I said: :cool:

Если кто-то тебе противоречит, подумай: может, он не прав? (с)

Говорят, что рыжие не плачут,
Говорят, душа у них - огонь.
Если влюблены, то любят значит,
Если ненавидят - их не тронь!

"Не заблуждайтесь. Рыжие - это зло! Знаете кто был рыжим? Иуда... Что сделал Иуда? Иисуса предал - вот что! Я говорю вслух то, о чем другие только думают. Рыжие опасны. И однажды ночью, когда вы будете спать в своих кроватках, рыжие придут за вами... Они придут за вами!!!"
(с) Эрик Картман

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7/14/2010 9:24 PM UTC #26809

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Dag, I'm about to unleash a torrent of venom, spread negativity, and express extreme disapproval!

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7/14/2010 9:28 PM UTC #26810

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What do you expect from a game released in 2002?

Games from 2002 have very good and pleasant graphics, but the point is not in how beautiful it is, but in the fact that it is not perceived well. You can't see anything clearly; what kind of items are lying in this grass – just black, long, vertical stripes. Ugly leaves that block, like curtains, half of the field of view down to the ground, a shaky camera that again spoils the overall impression, an unpleasant surface of the entire island in yellow-green tones, depicting vegetation. This green layer is like smeared greenish feces on the ground. All this simply creates some kind of unperceivable picture for me. Morrowind, for example, is a terrible game in all aspects, and especially in terms of graphics, but its picture is quite clear.
You get used to the controls, and it can even seem ergonomic, if not for the idiotic combat system. Try fighting more than one opponent who is not obviously weaker than you. You will fail many times and have to reload.
The island turned out to be even smaller than I thought; you can complete it in five minutes. If the first part has only a valley, then there is probably a very small area.
I also heard from my gamer friend that in the second Gothic, for example, you shouldn't go to the second chapter at a level lower than fourteen or fifteen, because otherwise the orcs will overwhelm you. And therefore, it is recommended to clear as much of the ISLAND as possible from monsters. Is this true? I don't want to, I can't, I refuse to believe it! He says - complete all the quests to join the mercenaries for the sake of experience, because otherwise it will be difficult.

Morrowind is the best RPG.

Grindy leveling, an empty and lifeless world in brown tones, the absence of dialogues, instead of which there is a wiki, the characters are only combinations of a stupid warrior or a destruction mage, you can't play as a pure merchant, diplomat, thief, or any other peaceful citizen; there are no memorable NPCs, whose faces and names are randomly generated by the editor.
No, there is nothing good in the whole series, I think. An MMORPG for one player.
I finally calmed down, it seems.

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7/14/2010 9:49 PM UTC #26811

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The games from 2002 have very good and pleasant graphics, but the point is not in how beautiful they are, but in the fact that they are not perceived well. It's simply impossible to see anything; what items are lying in this grass – in black, long, vertical stripes. Ugly leaves that block, like curtains, half of the field of vision down to the ground, a twitching camera, which again spoils the overall impression, an unpleasant surface of the entire island in yellow-green tones, depicting vegetation. This green layer is like smeared greenish shit on the ground. All this simply creates some kind of unperceivable picture for me. Morrowind, for example, is a terrible game in all aspects, and especially in terms of graphics, but its picture is quite clear.

Your game is glitching somehow %) or your perception of it.

You get used to the controls, and it can even seem ergonomic, if not for the stupid combat system. Try fighting more than one opponent who is not obviously weaker than you. You will fail many times and have to reload.

The combat system in Heroes 1 and 2 is my favorite among all RPGs. In my opinion, it's brilliantly done.

Try fighting more than one opponent who is not obviously weaker than you.

Is it difficult for you? I fight stronger opponents, and several weaker ones at a time. I do reload, of course, but that's what makes the battles interesting – being weak and killing a strong opponent, looking for all sorts of ways and tactics.

I also heard from my gamer friend that in the second Gothic, for example, you shouldn't go to the second chapter at a level lower than fourteen or fifteen, because otherwise the orcs will overwhelm you. And therefore, it is recommended to clear as much of the ISLAND as possible from monsters. Is this true? I don't want to, I can't, I refuse to believe it! He says – complete all the quests to join the mercenaries for the sake of experience, because otherwise it will be difficult.

You're playing with the addon, right? In the second chapter, you need to go to Yarkendar for a quest from Vatras and the entire Water Circle. Where the archaeologist mages are excavating the Temple. Usually, people go there first to level up, although you can also go to the Quarry first. I haven't played pure Gothic 2 (without the addon), but it seems that it's less hardcore. That is, the orcs won't be that aggressive there, and the addon was reworked so that it's more logical to go to Yarkendar first, and not immediately go to the orcs.
I couldn't kill all the creatures in the first chapter, even though I tried once; some wargs and dark riders remained. And it's not necessary at all. You can really complete all the quests, but it's not at all necessary to complete all of them, especially in the first chapter. Just play as you like) If you want to complete a quest, do it; if you want to kill a monster, kill it. That's what I do, at least. By the way, in each chapter, all the creatures respawn, which is why I usually kill everyone I can, so that I can kill them again in the next chapter.

The island turned out to be even smaller than I thought; you can go through it in five minutes. If in the first part there is only the valley, then there is probably a very small area.

You probably didn't explore it completely. Khorinis is approximately the same size as Mintal. And in this game, there is also Mintal from the first part, Yarkendar (but it will be twice as small), and plus the Halls of Irdorath in the sixth chapter.

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7/14/2010 9:50 PM UTC #26812

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Reply to Moning: Morrowind is the only RPG that I wanted to replay =). And not just once. It's a world in which I lived and spiritually connected with the character. For me, this is the most important thing - this is what is called atmosphere. In an RPG, you need to live, not try to evaluate the details separately, as you do. It's boring to play an RPG without trying to immerse yourself in the world completely.
Many characters are memorable to me: for example, the drug addict in the catacombs in the Temple district in Vivec =). You're all on edge, and then you see him - it's amusing.))
Moon sugar, mrr ;)

Если кто-то тебе противоречит, подумай: может, он не прав? (с)

Говорят, что рыжие не плачут,
Говорят, душа у них - огонь.
Если влюблены, то любят значит,
Если ненавидят - их не тронь!

"Не заблуждайтесь. Рыжие - это зло! Знаете кто был рыжим? Иуда... Что сделал Иуда? Иисуса предал - вот что! Я говорю вслух то, о чем другие только думают. Рыжие опасны. И однажды ночью, когда вы будете спать в своих кроватках, рыжие придут за вами... Они придут за вами!!!"
(с) Эрик Картман

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7/14/2010 9:54 PM UTC #26813

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And yes, there's no way you can run through all of Horinis in 5 minutes, and not even with a speed potion for 10)

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The Witch, by the way, is right. For me in games, the most important thing is also the atmosphere. You shouldn't play a game about ГГ, but be that hero, feel yourself in the world of the game, rather than in front of a monitor screen on some geeky day.
And you

try to evaluate details individually

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7/14/2010 10:27 PM UTC #26814

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I think it's pretty good. For example, in System Shock or Thief, I feel completely immersed in the character and the atmosphere is incredible. I wish everyone could experience that. There were times when I felt like entire brick factories were being built as I fought my way through disgusting insects, spiders, and ship compartments overgrown with biomass, or when I was creeping through a monastery, hiding in a corner from a terrifyingly screaming zombie, clutching the last vial of holy water in my trembling, sweaty hand.
But when a game like TES forces you to spend all your mana on healing, then go to sleep to regenerate it, then hold down a button again, then go to sleep again – that doesn't really help with immersion, does it? Then all the other flaws start to surface: the emptiness of the world, the pointlessness of exploration, the generally flawed role-playing system, and the weak plot. Why explore dozens of copy-pasted dungeons populated by two ghosts and a skeleton, which have no history or purpose, and contain a chest with twenty arrows, a fork, and a rice sprout? I've played enough Morrowind and Oblivion to have an idea of the series, and I started playing them without any preconceived notions. It's hard to get immersed in the atmosphere when the game makes you yawn.

So, what about Gothic? Specifically, the add-on. What level should I aim for to have a comfortable experience?

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7/14/2010 10:33 PM UTC #26815

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This once again proves that everyone has their own preferences. =)

And what's keeping you up?)) I'm just writing here because a program is installing in the background, and I have to wait, but what are you doing?

Если кто-то тебе противоречит, подумай: может, он не прав? (с)

Говорят, что рыжие не плачут,
Говорят, душа у них - огонь.
Если влюблены, то любят значит,
Если ненавидят - их не тронь!

"Не заблуждайтесь. Рыжие - это зло! Знаете кто был рыжим? Иуда... Что сделал Иуда? Иисуса предал - вот что! Я говорю вслух то, о чем другие только думают. Рыжие опасны. И однажды ночью, когда вы будете спать в своих кроватках, рыжие придут за вами... Они придут за вами!!!"
(с) Эрик Картман

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7/14/2010 10:48 PM UTC #26816

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Counter-Strike 1.6 is the best RPG. When I join a server, I merge with my Terrorist, Phoenix Faction. Then I grab an AK-47 and slaughter noobs. I hear the piercing screams of my victims, shouting into the microphone. Or I go camping – sitting in ambush, I look through the scope, waiting for the enemy to appear. I kill one, then another, then a third. In the speakers, I hear shouts – they call me a "rat." I pull the pin from a flashbang and throw it into a crowd of noobs, and then I kill everyone with a couple of bursts. _______________________ You can make something great out of anything; it all depends on a person's attitude towards the game. And in general, it's funny – you posted a small critique, and you immediately started trying to prove and convince everyone that your game isn't bad.

Стартовый пост - Квенты - Разное -
Резара - Аксель - Орвальд - Эмилия -

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7/14/2010 10:52 PM UTC #26817

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I have important things to do. Yes.

So, what about Gothic? You mean in the add-on? What level should I have to play comfortably?

Honestly, I don't know what level is needed. I just play. I didn't really notice. If I had saves, I could tell you, but I only have saves from G2 + add-on + unofficial add-on "Return". Everything is different there.

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I'm going to sleep, goodbye.

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7/14/2010 11:18 PM UTC #26818

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Tannhauser

you immediately started proving and trying to convince everyone that your game isn't bad.

Two posts – is that considered convincing someone? This is just an expression of opinion. But making claims like that is more about not wanting to hear opposing viewpoints and trying to appear mega-smart and knowledgeable. It looks even funnier than just writing a post for no reason.)))

Если кто-то тебе противоречит, подумай: может, он не прав? (с)

Говорят, что рыжие не плачут,
Говорят, душа у них - огонь.
Если влюблены, то любят значит,
Если ненавидят - их не тронь!

"Не заблуждайтесь. Рыжие - это зло! Знаете кто был рыжим? Иуда... Что сделал Иуда? Иисуса предал - вот что! Я говорю вслух то, о чем другие только думают. Рыжие опасны. И однажды ночью, когда вы будете спать в своих кроватках, рыжие придут за вами... Они придут за вами!!!"
(с) Эрик Картман

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7/14/2010 11:27 PM UTC #26819

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I can’t fall asleep because I overslept from nine to midnight. I’ll go to bed in half an hour.

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7/15/2010 1:35 AM UTC #26820

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In the second Gothic game, a mage can feel more comfortable in the orc valley at lower levels than a warrior. And in general, you won't get there without completing a couple of dozen quests and gaining a lot of experience.
Not to mention the optional quests that are not part of the main storyline. GET STRONGER IN GENERAL! THEN GO THERE AND KICK SOME ORC BUTT!

In general, it's funny - you posted a small critique, and you immediately started trying to prove and convince that your_game_is_not_bad.

Revanko, this is called a discussion. Not everyone is satisfied with just throwing around "Nomads" and using tired old jokes.

Tomorrow holds no promises
Except the ones we've made

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7/15/2010 3:58 AM UTC #26821

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I never liked gothic games. I tried playing the first, second, and third installments. Right now, I'm playing a simple RPG called Two Worlds. Most people on torrent sites and various other websites describe the game as terrible, with a weak plot and uninspired side quests. I don't remember what else they wrote, but for some reason, I like it, and I'm already playing it for the third time. You'll try anything when you're bored.

Небо – мольбы не ждёт
Небо – угроз не слышит
Небо – ведёт особый счёт
Небо – тебя найдёт

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7/15/2010 6:26 AM UTC #26822

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I wanted to play Two Worlds, but it glitched on me due to drivers or physics or something else, and I didn't feel like figuring it out, so I uninstalled it.