Posts from Discussion about the Britvachka-Valenok party.

Of the saves provided - the Dragon Utopia that caused the dispute was not taken by Anya on 147, although she has the chain for it. With artifacts and army from Neela, the treasure zone falls without problems; you'd have to mess around with the max one, but the angels still wouldn't have suffered. Considering the second КЗ in the max area, the army can then be easily evacuated via Town Portal to the nearest town (in the save, Anya gets advanced earth from mummies, demons, and the Dragon Utopia). Given the glowing corner of the blue hero through the hill, this was mandatory!! Generally, I tried for a long time to figure out what the reds did on 147, but other than Neela taking the max one, I still don't understand.

I also believe the move by the blues is justifiable.

And now what can be expected to be gained:

1. Scouting the territory. Most players underestimate its importance. Although here there is a chance that via Dimension Door one could enter the main underground treasure zone, finding a Castle with a highly developed Mage Guild along the way, providing an opportunity to plan for a draw if things get really unpleasant.
2. The possibility of catching the red army (partially) - this is quite likely.
3. The possibility of catching the ГГ; that's unlikely, but sometimes happens.
4. Finding an uncleared treasure zone. An untaken Dragon Utopia, a Pandora's box with the required magic, or even just some breastplate +6 to Defense. After all, it's obvious that on mini-nostalgia people often ignore not-so-important artifacts, hoping that the opponent won't appear in those areas.
5. It is reasonable to expect that upon meeting, a favorable trade can be made, especially if the opponent isn't very skilled in FB. After all, impls rule.

You didn't understand; the question was about actions that would be similar to map hacking, not about Valenok's skill level. And, if he knew there was something good there, he would have taken it already.


1. Scouting a small corner of the dungeon where the reds are (or were). It's definitely worth spending a turn with the leader at the end of week 4 for this.
2. Lol. Jumping into the dark without any vision, because there's definitely an opponent's stash somewhere, and "I bet a ruble" it's in a corner of the Inferno dungeon. :D
3. Same as point 2.
4. I repeat, with this strategy (running around in the corners of cleared dungeons hoping for a Utopia or +6 chestplate :)), you can't have high expectations for victory. If you think this is nonsense, name a couple of strong players who regularly do this.
5. Why do you think that on day 147, on Mini-Nostalgia, where the dungeons are no worse than Jebus's dungeon, you can expect a favorable trade with a rather weak army and an Imp with 1k health?

In summary, all these assumptions are quite strange, and points 2 and 3 are complete nonsense.

blah blah blah

Tell me instead, BUDDY, where would you Dimension Door in this situation????? Well, as a TOP- player, you'd probably just follow the road :) Right into Niločka's hands, right???? Or maybe it was a scouting maneuver; I would have been absolutely sure that the Reds WERE NOT in that corner, and SHOULD NOT be!!!!!!

...
In summary, all these assumptions are quite strange, and points 2 and 3 are complete nonsense.

I'm very curious why he didn't visit the Necropolis but went upwards, "God knows where," where there are 7 hiding spots and 4 Dragon cities. To me, this looks MORE suspicious than that DD!!!!!

Damn, what's with the hysteria? Can we do this without a bunch of question and exclamation marks?
Personally, on turn 145 I would have gone into my own unexplored treasure zone, to the pink computer and its treasure zone. And I would try to avoid meeting Nelka, who exceeds me in stats and army size. And it's clear that on turn 145 Nelka has no control, because if she did, Valenok would surely have also realized from the tavern that Gurni's situation wasn't so great and would have rushed over himself—and he wouldn't have waited to ambush during a push, but simply caught her and dealt with it. Nevertheless, the person is running exactly toward the corner where there is the only Dragon Utopia that gives stats generously. In the pink one's treasure zone there are three Dragon Utopias, but there is nothing worthy in them except for boots.

Cheating on Valenok's part is ruled out, as I enjoyed watching every one of his moves until the long break. The situation for Britva at that moment looked clearly losing.

So why didn't he go down there? :) ????