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Captain

16 years ago

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Wicc

Good. Tell me about the tactics.

Even though it might take "three tries" (and for Warlock, probably 23), it's not very comforting for an online player, but still...

Please discuss the tactics in private.
I want to watch how to fight there in the evening. Although, I immediately think of putting Grem in the lower corner - away from the cannon (let it be hit), and you can run around with 4 stacks of weak units.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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There’s no trick here. It’s pure luck. The “Rags” were covering, first they didn’t finish off one of the Lizards, then they switched to the Golems, and in the end, there was a stack of “Rags,” a couple of Gnolls to remove the retaliation, and a stack of Gremlins – I think I lost 6, not 4. Also, the behavior of the “Rags” strongly depends on the damage dealt by the Gremlins. Sorry, Sasha, but this is clearly not a battle you win through skill.

You lure the “Rags” into a corner with the Dragonflies, and then you wait for them to bite the cover one by one. The “Rags” are upgraded, so you won’t be able to chase them down.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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Here, 2 Gremlins died.

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Wicc

16 years ago

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The second screenshot is funny... how did that happen?

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Oelm

16 years ago

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Well, try to guess. By the way, Warlock had the strongest battle, unless he's just messing around.

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Wicc

Good. Tell us about your tactics.

Even though it might take "three tries" (and for Warlock, probably 23) to beat an online player, it's still...

You, self-proclaimed guru, first you said that it's unrealistic and difficult to keep more than 43 Gremlins, and second, with a fairly simple but effective tactic, the battle is won at least 4 out of 5 times, with an average of 80-90 Gremlins remaining, or even more, so stop acting smart and study the subject matter.

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Wicc

16 years ago

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Wlk777

You, you unfinished guru, firstly, you wrote that leaving more than 43 gremlins is unrealistic and difficult.

In a normal battle, that's how it is.

Secondly, with a fairly simple but effective tactic, the battle is won at least 4 times out of 5, with an average of 80-90 gremlins remaining, or even more, so be less of a know-it-all and study the subject =).

So, tell me the tactic, since you're so smart :).

Options like "ghosts are slow and attack the ballista, allowing the gremlins to shoot at them" are, of course, not considered a normal tactic, simply because it is not repeatable in general, it depends on the specific AI quirks, and relying on them in online play (I remind you that we are considering a save from an online game, not an offline one) is foolish.

If you were lucky enough to find such an option, well, it happens. My ghosts only attacked the ballista if there was nothing else to attack. Maintaining a normal army with such initial conditions is, of course, impossible.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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Valentin promised to broadcast the battle now.

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Wicc

16 years ago

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Oelm

Just try to guess. By the way, Warlock had the strongest battle, unless he's just messing around.

Well, I can already tell from the 3rd screenshot that you were fighting other Sorceresses.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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Or, they were with another Vistan. In the 2nd screenshot, there was a single unit covering the Gremlins; a full stack was walking first, so it hit the ballista. By the way, someone pointed out that Ain also had a breastplate with +1 strength. With that, the battle would have been won with good chances (if it had been necessary).

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Wicc

16 years ago

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Oelm

Or maybe it was with another Vistan. In the 2nd screenshot, there was a single unit covering the gremlins, and a full stack was walking first, so it hit the ballista.

Well, that's what I called the AI's quirk. That is, theoretically, this can happen, but in practice, a full stack usually hits the gremlins. So, it's not wise to rely on this possibility in online games. The same applies to the 3rd screenshot.

By the way, someone pointed out that Aine also had a +1 strength breastplate. With that, the battle would have been won with good chances (if it were necessary).

I noticed the breastplate, but I didn't pass it on; she fought without it, simply because Anya is needed in the lower left corner - to collect money and take the crypt. Passing on the breastplate is something like upgrading gargoyles or golems - it's suitable for the task of taking it by any means, but it's not worth doing in a real game.

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Oelm

16 years ago

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So, in the second screenshot, it no longer mattered, the battle would have been won regardless. I obviously didn't transfer the breastplate. It's just possible that this could have been done earlier in the game. The AI's spellcasting is the only thing that decides the outcome here, as they switch from attacking one lizard to attacking the golems after not finishing off the lizard. In the third screenshot, the situation is already decided. A stack of weak units is killed, then in the next round, the weak units kill the defender, and a gargoyle takes its place. This means there's one more shot from the gremlins. As a result, a full stack and some single units remain, and we still have a live defender.
P.S. I have another idea.

Lider1

16 years ago

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VIC, WHERE IS MY GREEN PC? What kind of nonsense is this?

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PReDS

16 years ago

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parasites, you don't let me work in peace. After a few experiments, I achieved the desired result; the Grem have 3 shots left, and then it's simple – the machine gun doesn't even take any damage, otherwise single units would be attacking it, freeing up space for full stacks. Only Vic, I think, is right – what's the point of these 2 giants? Because of focusing on this hiding spot, the largest respawn point wasn't explored properly – even 3 hiding spots of Grem weren't taken.

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PReDS

16 years ago

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Lider1

VIC, WHERE IS MY GREEN COMPUTER? What kind of nonsense is this?

What's the big deal? It's a common situation, actually described by Vic in his article about 8mm6 - the road, instead of going directly from one zone to another, veers into a treasure area. And what do you need that ramp for with such a respawn rate? Just take care of your home territory peacefully.

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