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I'm looking at the reports from dreamcatcher.metroland.ru, and it's disheartening :( It seems that this resource is on the verge of collapse, and it's almost 99% certain. There's been a standstill, a kind of death, although it hasn't been officially announced yet. But I have a question: what should we do to ensure that a resource like forum.heroesworld.ru continues to delight all Heroes fans for many years to come, and not only continues but also actively INCREASES the number of PLAYING Heroes fans? Thank you for reading this message! I want to hear opinions on this issue!
FireToSky
16 years ago
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I'm more concerned about the near-complete decline of the once-popular Heroes league. But with Heroes & Might & Magic VII, I think everything is going great.
I am more concerned about the almost complete decline of the once popular Heroes league. But I think everything is going well with Heroes & Might & Magic VII.
But we shouldn't relax, we need to actively attract NEW players and check IPs for clones!!!!
Lider1
16 years ago
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IMHO you shouldn't have started this thread, now the shit-flinging and countless multi-kilometer rants will begin about trashing AK and its "wrongful" influence on the entire HeroesWorld...
IMHO, you shouldn't have created this topic. Now the mudslinging will start, with countless mile-long rants targeting the shaming of AK and its "wrongful" influence on the entire HeroesWorld...
Well, it's become the fashion now :D
I think that AK and its influence are a NECESSARY and WORTHWHILE endeavor, and should even be paid for. The fact that there are squabbles only proves ONE thing — that AK is heading in the right direction...
Catch
16 years ago
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KillerVampire
I would like to hear opinions on this matter!
This is not a new issue. I partially touched upon it in the Forum a couple of days ago. In general, this problem concerns all Heroes websites. In some places, this process is more noticeable (HeroesLeague), while in others, it is not yet visible to the naked eye (HeroesWorld). However, the trend is the same for everyone; the League's management has essentially neglected the resource, which led to this. This is another question, but the HeroesWorld management is not actively developing the project, but they are acting very democratically; in fact, the online community for Heroes 3 manages it themselves (TK and AK). Everyone probably remembers what happened when higher authorities interfered in the online community (at least the situation with Djede's cheating). If this continues in the same vein, the future of HeroesWorld looks long and quite cloudless. However, if the recent signs of authoritarianism continue to develop, the online community on HeroesWorld will decline. Moreover, as soon as the current supporters of AK encounter this themselves, they will immediately become its staunch opponents. So, there is only one way out: continue the development that has been happening here for the past couple of years, during which HeroesWorld has become a leading resource in the Russian-speaking online community for Heroes 3. Everything else is already available on the resource. There are plenty of tournaments. There is also variety. Moreover, you can play with anyone, in anything, and on anything, as long as you want. And if I may summarize: a Heroes community, regardless of race, gender, or resource. :)
SEM_56
16 years ago
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The main thing is that people shouldn't write nonsense here, and everything will be fine. And we have plenty of resources! As far as I know, it's the largest in the CIS. The portal doesn't have as many resources as we do. What about popularizing the game? You can't force people to play Heroes; it has to come from the heart! I've said everything I wanted to say.
This isn't a new issue. I touched upon it partially in the Forum a couple of days ago. In general, this problem affects all Heroes-related websites. In some places, this process is more noticeable (HeroesLeague), while in others, it's not immediately apparent (HeroesWorld). However, the trend is the same for everyone; it's just that the HeroesLeague administration has essentially abandoned the resource, which led to this. This is another issue, but the HeroesWorld administration isn't actively developing the project, but they are acting very democratically; in fact, the Heroes 3 online community is run by the players themselves (TK and AK). Everyone probably remembers what happened when higher-ups interfered with the online community (at least the situation with Djede's cheating). If things continue in this direction, the future of HeroesWorld looks very long and quite cloudless. However, if the emerging signs of authoritarianism continue to develop, the online community on HeroesWorld will decline. And as soon as the current supporters of AK experience this themselves, they will immediately become staunch opponents of it. So, the only solution is to continue the development that has been happening here for the past couple of years, during which HeroesWorld has become a leading resource in the Russian-speaking internet for Heroes 3 online. Everything else is already available on the resource. There are plenty of tournaments. There's also plenty of variety. Moreover, you can play with anyone, in anything, and on anything, as long as you want. And in short, it's about a Heroes community, regardless of race, gender, or resource :)
Thank you for your opinion... it contains words that deserve more detailed consideration and decision-making...
Added 3 minutes ago SEM_56
The main thing is that they don't write any nonsense here, and everything will be fine... And we're doing great with the resource!! It's the largest in the CIS, as far as I know... The portal isn't as rich in resources as we are, etc. And what about popularizing the game?? You can't force people to play Heroes; it must be in their heart and soul!!! I've said everything.
Heroes is a cult game, and we need to actively encourage young people and not forget that it was released back in 1999, which is a long time ago for a game!!!!
The main thing is that outsiders don't write inappropriate things here, and everything will be fine...
Yes, and most importantly, there should be fewer posts with such content. For example, a person comes from a resource that has failed (not necessarily Dungeon, it could be another one), wants to play, looks at the topics, and sees such posts. They get scared and leave. It's immediately clear that they are not welcome here. And the question of who to consider "one of us" and who not is also debatable. If a person came here from another resource but has organized about ten tournaments, shown the World website to several dozen people, isn't he more "one of us" than some loudmouth who has played twenty online games here and considers himself a defender of the resource? Xenophobia has never led to anything good.
Yes, and most importantly, there should be fewer posts with such content. For example, a person comes from a resource that has shut down (not necessarily Dungeon, it could be another one), wants to play, looks at the topics, and sees such posts. They get scared and leave. It's immediately clear that they are not welcome here. And the question of who to consider "one of our own" and who not is also debatable. If a person came here from another resource but has organized about ten tournaments here, and shown dozens of people a site like World of Xeen, isn't he more "one of our own" than some loudmouth who has played twenty online games here and considers himself a defender of the resource? Xenophobia has never led to anything good.
How can they "get scared" by reading a post? What really scares me is that people mostly post only reports – which I've been observing for several days, even weeks. ;) Thanks for the "support," I would reply, but I don't think it's worth escalating the situation.
;) thanks for the "support," I would have replied, but I don't think it's worth escalating the situation....
Support or not, I do have some experience. I'll jot down a few more words while I still can, before they completely shut me up. :) On the Portal, I ran Tournaments for Might and Magic II, a version that was much less popular than Might and Magic III. When I started running tournaments, the situation was terrible. The Portal was divided, half the players left, and for the first couple of months, I was just running around on ICQ, inviting players to the tournaments. I clung to every newcomer with all my might. No, I didn't bother them, I just did everything possible to make them feel comfortable. I spent days on the forum (thankfully, my job allowed it), promptly answering all questions, and so on, and so forth... In addition, players from other resources would join, and at that time (2007), the relations between the resources were very strained. They would sometimes play in my tournaments, send me save files and comments on them. Often, the mildest phrases in those letters were something like: "no one on the Portal knows how to play anyway, so here's a terrible save, there's no point in trying harder." Does that sound familiar? Here, one online player expresses something similar, and the whole forum turns against him, but I received such letters repeatedly. Nevertheless, I never replied harshly to any of them, quite the opposite. As a result, these very players started playing on the Portal quite often and brought great benefits to both the Portal and the Portal players, who also learned from their experience. In addition, I had to make sure that there were no conflicts between the players. Conflict is something that temporarily increases interest in the topic, but after it, as a rule, some of the players leave. Forever. Therefore, a good tournament organizer is first and foremost a diplomat. I'll repeat once more, we need to stop dividing players into "ours" and "theirs." If they play in your tournament or in a season, organize or help organize tournaments, give advice on the forum, or help other players, they are yours. I always considered all my Might and Magic II players to be mine. And I was ready to tear anyone's throat out for each of them. And sometimes I did. Including other Portal masters. Every tournament organizer should have approximately this attitude.
numOne
16 years ago
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Less talk, more action, and everything will be fine.
RAPER
16 years ago
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perhaps some kind of incentive is needed... for example, an automated rating system, prizes (but not just money, because that often leads to problems; even small things like certificates or something else would be nice...). I remember the organizers used to send out certificates for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place by mail. But now it's just a medal under the avatar, and that's it... Moreover, it's necessary to develop not only the Heroes of Might and Magic III section, but all sections. Unfortunately, the people who did that are gone now. Only the Heroes of Might and Magic I and II sections are still somewhat active, and the Heroes of Might and Magic III section is very active. I don't know anything about the Heroes of Might and Magic V section; I haven't looked at it in a long time, and the Heroes of Might and Magic IV section on the resource has been dead for a long time, unfortunately! Also, there should be fewer scandals and arguments (I'm talking about the recent situations). This doesn't positively affect any of the parties involved, and often it even makes things worse for the resource! (This is just my opinion... we could argue about it for a long time).
Nagan-4
16 years ago
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Also, there should be fewer scandals and arguments (I'm talking about the recent situations). This doesn't positively affect any of the parties involved, and often makes things even worse for the resource itself! (This is just my opinion... there's a lot to argue about here).
There are never any winners in insults and fights! One person wins, but everyone loses, including the winner of the fight.
Overall, things are fine with us. The philosophical debates that are currently happening are even interesting to read. Everything is within reasonable limits; the parties are arguing their points of view and justifying their positions: the main thing is that it doesn't turn into a Mexican soap opera, in my opinion.
Regarding Heroes of Might and Magic 3... I checked out the beginners' tournament, and there are more than 30 people playing. If at least half of them stay on our resource and develop into players, then we need to prepare a medal for Kesh to put on his avatar.
And there's also the general Might and Magic 3 forum; I read it sometimes. Although the people who come there are mostly naive, there are quite a few of them, which is an inexhaustible reserve for replenishing the ranks of skilled players and helpful forum members. What I like is that even our experienced players don't dismiss complete newbies but talk to them and patiently explain the intricacies of the game. You look, and in a year, another group of 30-40 beginners will sign up for Kesh's tournaments. There has never been such a massive effort to work with new online players as there is on the World forum, so the prospects are more than good; the main thing is not to create an apocalypse on the forum.
As for the other versions, I am convinced that if the Heroes of Might and Magic 5 online players take the Heroes of Might and Magic 3 model as an example when working with newcomers, they will have a decent influx of new people. The game has potential, and there are still fans.
As for Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and 4, it's more complicated. Heroes of Might and Magic 4 is a very specific game, standing apart from the main series. Heroes of Might and Magic 2 is perhaps the best game in the entire series in terms of charisma. But Heroes of Might and Magic 3 is a direct successor to Heroes of Might and Magic 2; all the old players switched to Heroes of Might and Magic 3 from Heroes of Might and Magic 2, so Heroes of Might and Magic 3 inadvertently became a competitor to its predecessor, a lucky competitor. It's easier for an ambitious player to put their efforts into Heroes of Might and Magic 3 because there are many more people in the tournaments. It's a shame if Heroes of Might and Magic 2 is losing ground on our site; I didn't know that.
=Logistik=
16 years ago
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on a chess-like planet, for example, having **clones** is perfectly normal, which leads to many funny nicknames and situations.
