Posts from Forum

"1) Self-esteem is low enough that submitting to Dubrovin is not perceived as something abnormal...."

QUOTE]

and everything else

Wicc, what submission are you talking about? Where do you see any submission?
Your goal is to pit me and the Volda players against each other, and this may partially be achieved - time will tell, we'll see.

How you scared the people :). All sorts of hidden machinations and multi-move combinations are already being imagined. In reality, everything is much simpler.

The main goal is the development of the Heroes movement. Broad development, deep development. This goal is distant, abstract, and without specific benchmarks; that's actually what makes it convenient. With this goal in mind, I run tournaments, write articles, communicate on the forum, refine TE/VT, etc.

Of course, it's impossible to limit oneself solely to constructive activities here; sometimes you have to destroy what was previously created or put down any inappropriate amateur initiatives. Moreover, while the features I created weren't always relevant – there were mistakes and failed experiments – almost everything I destroyed was justified, at least the course of subsequent events convinced most people that it had to happen that way.

As for the AC – this experiment seemed strange to me from the very beginning, and I wrote about it at that time, although not particularly aggressively; after all, it was only an intuitive feeling, not a firm conviction.

I also laid out my reasoning back then, and it was roughly along these lines – "what for?" That is, what actual niche could this body fill? After going through the options, I realized it wasn't much of one – there are enough tournament judges to handle disputed episodes, 1-2 season judges are enough to review season games, analyzing cheating will be done by the whole forum regardless, etc.

That is, all the niches that the AC claims are already occupied, and have been for many years; certain traditions and understandings have developed about how things are done here. After all, Heroes has been around for more than 10 years.

Therefore, an attempt to intrude into this established ethical ecosystem with some clearly foreign charter inevitably leads to an epic fail, as we've had the opportunity to clearly witness. If it hadn't been Alex's case, it would have been another – historical inevitability.

When I participated in AC-supervised tournaments on HeroesWorld, I didn't bother my head with the thought that the AC might strongly contradict me. I thought they'd have enough sense not to get under the wheels, and instead take a wait-and-see position and let people sort out their own relationships.

Actually, many thought so, which is why a very wide range of players could have been the initiator of such a confrontation. Moreover, a serious accusation like cheating isn't even necessary; the very fact of opposing bureaucracy to Cossack free-spiritedness is important, and the reason is secondary.

There is too much anarchic romance in the Heroes movement, a desire for the freedom to choose one's own leaders and idols; imposing a bureaucratic "you elected them – now obey" system here is fraught with a multitude of conflicts.

Therefore, no matter how you arrange it, avoiding conflicts with top players (one leaves – new ones grow) under such an AC regulation is unreal. The situation can be softened by choosing the right AC composition – if it includes older people, well-acquainted with the traditions of Heroes gatherings, with experience in resolving conflict situations in tournaments, then there are chances to smooth over the rough edges.

The previous AC composition was clearly youthful, without serious judging experience, without experience in observing the schisms and reunifications of groups. For many of them, HeroesWorld seems to be their first serious Heroes gathering in general. It's no wonder that many things obvious to me turned out to be a revelation for them.

Well then – ideally, it would be better if there were no bodies like the AC at all, but if one wants to play around with this trinket (I understand the idea is beautiful, many are drooling over it), then precautions should be taken. For example, create a situation where mentions of the AC on the forum are kept to a minimum, and it's brought out like a machine gun from the closet – only when a serious brawl is underway.

For contrast – Dubrovin's frequent phrases "The AC will consider your request" (uttered clearly not without pride) evoke a persistent association with pompous bureaucracy, not understanding that ideally they are servants of the people, not masters. Therefore, it's better if these phrases don't exist at all, or at the very least, if they are uttered not by Dubrovin; with others, it might not be such an eyesore. For a trial, you could add a clause to the AC regulation roughly like this – AC members are forbidden from mentioning the name "AC" (and its synonyms) publicly, as well as using the word "we" in relation to the AC.

Something like that is my vision of the issue ...

For contrast, Dubrovin's recurring phrases "the AC will consider your request" (uttered with apparent pride) evoke a persistent association with pompous bureaucracy, failing to grasp that they are supposed to be servants of the people, not masters. Therefore it would be better if these phrases didn't exist at all, or at the very least that they weren't spoken by Dubrovin—for others, it might not be so jarring.

since you're setting the tone like that, I'll translate my post into Russian for you ))

What exactly are your wishes, give me a clue???
- that the AK works better
- that there be no AK
- your own option

I want the AK to be an authoritative body, for everyone, not just for... hmm... I won't mince words. That's why I vote for people I either trust or am confident will work properly there. And I am categorically against those... hmm... getting into its ranks.

Catch the deep thought, don't rush to answer ahead of Vik ;)

Didn't you realize that your decision would set the heroic movement back almost two years? Any normal person would understand that the departure of Forrest, Cobra, and even Alex is a huge loss, first and foremost for HW itself.

Well... a messy computer, tech losses, a warning, and that's it. If you're sure there was cheating, make sure the whole community believes you and award the championship. Your decision is neither fish nor fowl. And the most interesting thing is that none of you foresaw what this would all lead to.

I agree with this. Finally, a well-formulated post.

And I agree with this too. It seems like this is the best thing that has been written regarding the accusations against AK. 2 mistakes: a half-hearted decision and a lack of understanding of the consequences.

I want the AK to be an authoritative body, and for everyone...

I want the AK to primarily serve to unite the hero community, to serve as a tool for resolving conflicts, and not as a match that ignites them. That's why I vote for those people who are capable of such activities. Those who can look a little further than their own nose. Although I have certain disagreements with some of them.

...But didn't you foresee that your decision would push the hero community back almost two years?

And that's why I called your posts "flaming" and asked you again about your wishes regarding the AK. Because even now, you only wrote two sentences about your vision of this issue/think about the percentage this represents of the entire post and how much argumentation is in them/

1) If "authority" means experience, fairness, honesty, and impartiality, then yes.

2) The AK primarily served to unite the Heroes community. It served as a tool for resolving conflicts. - But somehow, it didn't happen that people went to court with requests for friendship /"I want to be friends with my neighbor."/

There are different ways to judge. Compare:
1. You goat, you cheater... You're banned, permanent ban.
2. In a certain game, player X violated rule Y, according to which they receive the punishment stipulated in rule Z.
I'm exaggerating, of course, but I think the meaning is clear. But the main thing is to prevent conflicts from escalating in the threads between participants. And believe me, you don't necessarily need to be a moderator for this. Sometimes, a single small post, ideally with a touch of light humor, is enough. This quells conflicts much better than moderation or any other forceful actions.

I agree with this. Finally, a well-formulated post.