Posts from Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.

Please share those save files so we can take a look.

Nowadays, the internet exists for this purpose, and not just here. And the main character, for some reason, isn't taking action. Rather, the opposite is happening; it has become easier for public opinion to hold officials accountable.

Yeah, just look at Dimovsky's and Chichi's latest videos.

Please pay attention, AK. The following situation arose in the team tournament: /topic/at/370650/

I kindly request that you investigate and make a decision.

The AK's decision regarding this match is as follows:
There is no evidence of cheating in Keby's actions.

And what about V.? Have you been considering it for a month now, and when will a decision be made?

And what about V.'s case? You've been considering it for a month now, when will a decision be made?

I'd like to add to that question. I don't want to pressure you or anything, but still. I hope you've at least talked to B.?

Maybe you shouldn't abbreviate names (nicknames)? Why write "B." or "Б." on the forum? Is it for mystery or to show that it's not for everyone? It's unclear who is being referred to. If secrecy is really needed, there's ICQ. By the way, you should still tell newcomers about the FAQ and that they can go there for help. Most of them don't know about the FAQ... and I'm not sure they'll read PMs – they'll just read the topic.

Don't fall asleep, gentlemen :)

We're not really talking about that. Those who need to know, understand.

By the way, we should still tell the newcomers about the Appeals Committee and that they can contact them. Most of them don't know about the Appeals Committee... and I'm not sure they'll read PMs – they'll only read the topic.

I edited the first post, as you insisted. Now it says:

In certain cases, I reserve the right to involve or not involve the Appeals Committee (HeroesWorld Appeals Committee), as well as competent and reputable online players. If you are not satisfied with the decision of the tournament organizer (or if you do not trust him), you have the right to contact the Appeals Committee yourself.

Or is something still wrong?

Or is something wrong again?

In my opinion, it's satisfactory, but it would be good to state that they can contact the Arbitration Committee directly, before contacting the organizer, even if they trust him. And also, in my opinion, it's better to provide a direct link to the Arbitration Committee, rather than to the Tournament Committee.

but it would be good to state that they can contact the admins directly, before contacting the organizer, even if they trust the organizer.

Why?:confused: What's the point?.... what's the purpose of going over the organizer's head? I can't wrap my head around it.

Why?:confused: What's the point?.... what's the purpose of jumping over the organizer's head? I can't figure it out.

In my opinion, it would be more democratic this way, but I'm not insisting.

In my opinion, that would be a more democratic approach, but I'm not insisting.

You're not insisting; you've already driven everyone crazy with this. Maybe we can count how many times you've expressed this idea in one form or another on the forum over the past couple of weeks?

You're not pushing it; you've already driven everyone crazy with this. Maybe we can count how many times you've expressed this idea in one form or another on the forum over the past couple of weeks?

Twice in this thread, once in the Tournament 24 template thread, and everything else you wrote in the newbie thread has already been deleted. Sorry for repeating myself so many times, but thankfully, it's all over now.

I ask you to judge a game with chester (Andrey asya363418981), my 58068320 opponent. I lost, there is a recording. He attacked with seven angels (Kyrre); I wrote to him that he had lost. I ran away and beat the bot on the next turn. But chester asked for a replay. I loaded it, and he brazenly says that I was playing against myself. I am attaching the chat logs. Saves are recorded, but I don't know how to send them.

bijho (18:45) :
in game. I'll record now and load

Andrey (18:45) :
just check the colors

bijho (18:49) :
come to me

bijho (19:40) :
don't get it

Andrey (19:51) :
great battle?

bijho (19:51) :
no. meat, I'll write back soon.

bijho (19:54) :
need to upgrade a bit and here is such a hand(death knights, golems) I didn't understand what you wrote about me doing something forbidden?

Andrey (19:54) :
saw in the tavern that your hero is Sir Mullich - he is forbidden

bijho (19:55) :
who said? no, he's allowed. he's not the main one. if not, give a link

Andrey (19:56) :
/topic/3515/
p. 5.1

Andrey (19:56) :
although if he's just running around at level 1, then he's allowed

bijho (19:58) :
he's just running around at level 1. I think I upgraded his spell power once. I'll check when I leave battle. but he definitely didn't fight anyone at level 1

bijho (20:00) :
what happened?

bijho (20:02) :
mullich is level 1. come in and see:(

bijho (20:10) :
hello.? did something happen?

Andrey (21:18) :
internet dropped, just came back, sorry

Andrey (21:18) :
do you want to finish the game?

bijho (21:19) :
I don't even remember where( and what happened?)

bijho (21:20) :
oh, I read it. if you remember where, then load.

Andrey (21:21) :
I have an autosave, but you'll have to move again

Andrey (21:21) :
tckb ns yt cj[hfyzkcz

Andrey (21:21) :
if you didn't save yourself

Andrey (21:21) :
you*

bijho (21:22) :
I saved, just don't remember which day

Andrey (21:22) :
I don't remember either, loading auto, entering

bijho (21:23) :
you are red in the ham, check the ham

Andrey (21:23) :
normal

bijho (21:23) :
ok

bijho (21:34) :
stupid golems)

Andrey (21:41) :
catastrophically short on cash, nothing to build

bijho (21:42) :
look for banks. I just attacked a nag

Andrey (21:43) :
hope I don't get slaughtered in those banks

Andrey (22:00) :
(censored)... lost a unicorn to gremlins, only I can do that

bijho (22:01) :
me too!))))id=413 alt=':Ок!:'

Andrey (22:21) :
only one Griffin Conservatory and the way to it is blocked by a horde of cerberi((

bijho (22:22) :
I only have one too. I already took it

bijho (22:36) :
the Czechs just beat ours 10-0:((

Andrey (22:41) :
froze again(( save up

bijho (22:42) :
ok

Andrey (22:42) :
the machine is old already, tired

bijho (22:46) :
come in

bijho (22:50) :
don't remember, please tell me, can I approach the Tree of Knowledge?

Andrey (22:51) :
of course, why not?

bijho (22:51) :
I think I know the basics, but the specifics....

Andrey (22:52) :
I'm generally against all restrictions
well, a normal player won't play with phoenixes, but the rest is tolerable

Andrey (22:57) :
not interested in underground?)

bijho (22:57) :
it's fine, grabbed some pandoras, developed.

Andrey (22:58) :
id=402 alt=':Улыбка до ушей:'

Andrey (22:59) :
no haste or slow.. bad luck

bijho (23:00) :
:((

bijho (23:00) :
I'm doing okay, I think.

Andrey (23:20) :
over a hundred gr. demons, thought I wouldn't survive

Andrey (23:20) :
and they have morale too

Andrey (23:20) :
and I don't have slow, elves with expert archery are power

bijho (23:21) :
so what army do you have? maybe we should throw the game?:))

Andrey (23:21) :
unicorns in Castle on the first week, bought up on 121 and set off, nothing special really

Andrey (23:22) :
actually fewer left, well I think I'll break through

bijho (23:22) :
how many angels?

Andrey (23:23) :
3

bijho (23:23) :
then you're in the lead!:)

Andrey (23:24) :
I don't know, I don't know, if you come with a couple dozen hippos...

bijho (23:26) :
from where?!:)))

Andrey (23:32) :
who knows about you, probably built them in Castle on the first week and found an external dwelling

Andrey (23:35) :
skills are a pain too, gave training to the folder...

bijho (23:35) :
no:) don't worry. it's not great for me either:((((

Andrey (23:36) :
yeah, I don't have dragons yet)

Andrey (23:37) :
actually found some chocolate up here now, probably that will be the key

bijho (23:37) :
me too:))

bijho (23:37) :
but I don't have any:((

bijho (23:45) :
probably wings:)))

Andrey (23:49) :
do they even give anything, you can't see the map, no idea where to fly

Andrey (23:49) :
and you can't take treats without guards

Andrey (23:49) :
no, I found something better, which is very useful in battle

bijho (23:50) :
lucky:))))

Andrey (0:00) :
lost 4 unicorns and all the elves

Andrey (0:00) :
hope is on the angels..

bijho (0:03) :
angels will kill everyoneid=413 alt=':Ок!:'

Andrey (0:03) :
but I got a fancy thing

Andrey (0:03) :
you can check the stats in the tavern

bijho (0:04) :
what's a fancy thing?

Andrey (0:04) :
babies call toys that :)

bijho (0:05) :
don't get it, shield? or something better?

Andrey (0:06) :
yeah a shield and some other stuff

bijho (0:11) :
well done:)))

Andrey (0:15) :
oh, so you're not far here

bijho (0:15) :
yeah

Andrey (0:16) :
found an artifact that the seer is looking for in the hut, interesting what they'll give

bijho (0:17) :
tell me about it:)

Andrey (0:19) :
look at you

Andrey (0:19) :
stole the hive right from under my nose

Andrey (0:20) :
well that was wrong of you

bijho (0:20) :
probably:))

bijho (0:26) :
yeah I'm caught!:) what to do?

Andrey (0:27) :
what do you want)

bijho (0:28) :
probably get out. it's far to me...:)))

bijho (0:28) :
and who gets the ransom money?

Andrey (0:29) :
nobody

bijho (0:29) :
good:)

Andrey (0:30) :
missed by 1 cell:)

Andrey (0:34) :
did you build me a guild in the swamp? thanks :)

bijho (0:34) :
you're welcome:)

bijho (0:35) :
do you have control? didn't see where Kyrre ran off to:(

Andrey (0:35) :
he's here

bijho (0:35) :
sorry I see him

Andrey (0:43) :
I dropped out again :(

Andrey (0:43) :
today is an unfavorable day

Andrey (0:43) :
for heroes

Andrey (0:43) :
will you load?

bijho (0:44) :
of course)

Andrey (0:44) :
going to the dacha tomorrow morning, need to finish today

Andrey (0:44) :
gather the boys, I think I'll attack within a week

bijho (0:45) :
gathered them

Andrey (0:45) :
you're fast, I still need to bring some power :)

bijho (0:46) :
come in

bijho (1:02) :
didn't have time to record. time ran out:)))

Andrey (1:03) :
now that's luck

bijho (1:04) :
I feel it:)

Andrey (1:04) :
gave unnecessary artifacts to a left hero, took him underground, there's a seer, and he just needs one artifact

bijho (1:04) :
and what did they give

Andrey (1:04) :
a couple dozen crusaders

bijho (1:05) :
not bad:)

bijho (1:14) :
cruel:) spotted a scout:)

Andrey (1:15) :
id=403 alt=':Дразнюсь:'

bijho (1:15) :
don't tease:) ours lost 2:1! :(((

Andrey (1:16) :
hockey or what?

bijho (1:16) :
yeah

Andrey (1:16) :
I'm not from Russia, but it's a pity

bijho (1:17) :
from where????

Andrey (1:17) :
Ukraine :)

Andrey (1:18) :
a bit further west :)

bijho (1:19) :
khokhol!)))) I'm not Russian either)))) but from where? further west...

Andrey (1:20) :
I mean that Ukraine is west of Russia :)

Andrey (1:20) :
although I'm closer to Russia than to my own capital

bijho (1:24) :
so not a khokhol!:))))

Andrey (1:26) :
I'll attack on month 2 week 2 day 2

Andrey (1:26) :
get ready :)

bijho (1:28) :
getting ready:(

Andrey (1:29) :
thinking about upgrading angels or they'll do as is

bijho (1:29) :
probably upgrade them:)))

Andrey (1:32) :
sigh

Andrey (1:33) :
my basin is already hinting that it's late and he's tired

bijho (1:33) :
the basin got caught:)))))

Andrey (1:34) :
no, not caught, freed a hero from prison and froze

Andrey (1:34) :
will you load?:)

Andrey (1:34) :
you're probably tired of this already, sorry if so

Andrey (1:35) :
there are a couple days left, if I lose the battle, then I surrender :)

bijho (1:35) :
not very interesting:(((

bijho (1:35) :
you'll lose:(

Andrey (1:35) :
throw in some cash?

Andrey (1:36) :
as compensation for time and moral damage

Andrey (1:36) :
load the autosave or if you saved, because I didn't make it :)

bijho (1:37) :
just entered battle with Kyrre.

Andrey (1:38) :
with the bot?

bijho (1:38) :
yeah

Andrey (1:38) :
damn

bijho (1:38) :
not allowed?

Andrey (1:38) :
be my guest

Andrey (1:38) :
waiting

bijho (1:38) :
ok

Andrey (1:38) :
might freeze again :)

bijho (1:39) :
am I following the rules? otherwise go back!:((((

Andrey (1:39) :
what's according to the rules?

bijho (1:40) :
with the bot?

Andrey (1:40) :
I crashed at the start of my turn, and the computer moved for me, by the rules you ask for your autosave before I start moving

bijho (1:40) :
don't get it. am I playing correctly?

Andrey (1:41) :
if you want to finish with the computer then it's correct, if not - load what was on the day before I moved, probably 215

Andrey (1:41) :
or do you want to kill the computer, save, and load me without Kyrre?:)

bijho (1:43) :
and where will you go with Kyrre? you made a mistake when you attacked. can go back. but put it as it was.

bijho (1:45) :
killed him. easy. will you put him in the same place?

Andrey (1:45) :
and where did his computer put him?

Andrey (1:45) :
I didn't move

bijho (1:46) :
to the obelisk.

Andrey (1:46) :
if I crash again - count it as my defeat, I'm tired of reloading

Andrey (1:46) :
load

bijho (1:46) :
you put him there

bijho (1:47) :
come in

bijho (1:48) :
attack with Kyrre

Andrey (1:49) :
on whom?

Andrey (1:49) :
I'm going to the Utopia, and I don't see any obelisks on the grass at all

Andrey (1:50) :
attacked hydras like last time

bijho (1:50) :
Andryukha, I have everything recorded. attack Kreg. don't try to be clever:((((

Andrey (1:51) :
where is Kreg?

Andrey (1:52) :
3 days travel to him

bijho (1:52) :
are you playing dumb? attacked with 7 angels, and now hiding in the bushes? I'll prove I'm right. I have it recorded, can present it:(((((

Andrey (1:52) :
considering that I didn't move from the spot

Andrey (1:53) :
did you drink or something?

Andrey (1:53) :
I have 30 Wyvern, cavalry and unicorns

bijho (1:53) :
I wrote - you're caught.

Andrey (1:53) :
that's before I ported to the capital

Andrey (1:54) :
found Kreg below

Andrey (1:54) :
I don't land on this day

Andrey (1:55) :
you played with the computer for a couple of days and want me to repeat its actions? how do I even know what was happening there if I reloaded?

bijho (1:55) :
do you not read. did you answer that if you lose then you throw in the towel? I gave you the chance to play. and not with a bot. what's wrong with you?

Andrey (1:55) :
well there was no battle

Andrey (1:56) :
wait, I'll arrive on 222 as I said

bijho (1:56) :
that's low. let them judge us.

Andrey (1:56) :
I don't understand you

Andrey (1:56) :
ok, you won, thanks for the game

bijho (1:56) :
you'll understand

Andrey (1:57) :
good night

bijho (1:57) :
writing a report now, you confirm it, and I won't take it to court. if you confirm.

Andrey (2:00) :
take it straight to court without a report, if you intend to write slander there, because I am a stubborn person and court is not a problem

bijho (2:00) :
so court or report? stubborn

Andrey (2:01) :
does ICQ accept files?

Andrey (2:01) :
damn, apparently not

bijho (2:01) :
did I ask?

Andrey (2:01) :
I'll give a link to the screenshot at the start of my turn, tell me how the hell I can attack Kreg

Andrey (2:01) :
maybe you'll see the light and without courts and reports

bijho (2:01) :
they'll figure it out

Andrey (2:01) :
maybe* .. sec

Andrey (2:02) :
alright, write

bijho (2:02) :
do you confirm?

Andrey (2:02) :
just faster please, I have less than 5 hours of sleep left

bijho (2:02) :
me too

Andrey (2:02) :
report text to the studio, I'll say if I confirm or not

bijho (2:03) :
don't get it

Andrey (2:03) :
bijho (01:02:11 24/05/2010)
do you confirm?

Andrey (2:03) :
confirm what?

bijho (2:03) :
the loss

Andrey (2:04) :
only in the case of satisfying your pride, but as for the game - of course not, the advantage and victory are mine

bijho (2:05) :
not satisfied. let the court decide.

Andrey (2:05) :
link plz

bijho (2:06) :
you'll go bald

Andrey (2:06) :
there are no such words in my vocabulary

Andrey (2:06) :
if you wanted to be witty, it didn't work =[br][/br]
Andrey (2:15) :
made up some (censored) out of nowhere, I thought you were joking - but no, learn how to lose with dignity, luckily I have the saves, my last move was month 1 week 2 day 3, everything after that - you played yourself and you'll only embarrass yourself in court, I'm going to sleep, tomorrow is BBQ, all confirmations and refutations on Tuesday, good luck

bijho: these are my words addressed to chester(Andrey): I am simply shocked by such brazenness:((( Everything is clear from the correspondence(123-see 2h.15m., and before that-215 see answer chtster at 1h.41m.)!!!!!!!! At 1.32 (2.1.5)-at the word sigh!-Chester realized he was caught and immediately wrote that it's time for bed, and then(read the logs) lied in the most vile form!!!! Chester is not the only one on the forum. I've played about 10 games. when I win - they freeze, or urgently go somewhere(restart computer for 20-30 minutes.) or disappear for three to seven days, then reappear and accuse you instead. I'm fed up. I am sure that the vast majority on the forum are normal people-not cheaters, however, "CHEATERS-we aren't losing a cow!"

Good thing I wasn't in the AK (presumably referring to an in-game area or situation). Dear newcomers, please pay close attention to disconnections in the game. As soon as a disconnection occurs, immediately take note of it and prevent the computer from playing for your opponent to avoid such controversial situations. The algorithm for dealing with a disconnection is as follows: the player whose turn it is finishes their turn, makes a recording, and uploads it. In case of crashes that lead to the game closing (and this happens, although it's based on trust), if this happens during the turn of the player who experienced the crash, the most recent autosave is uploaded. Good luck in the game!

1. If a disconnect occurs during your turn, calmly complete your turn as usual and, at the end of your turn, save the game, which you then load. 2. If a disconnect occurs during your opponent's turn, you must not make a move or save the game! Exit the game, your opponent completes their turn, and you load their save. 3. If, during a disconnect on your opponent's turn, their computer freezes or the game closes, again, you must not make a move or save the game, as the computer will complete their turn in such a case. Load your last save (made before the crash) and allow your opponent to replay that turn. Regarding the third point, which relates to the situation described above. Guys, don't immediately become paranoid and think that you are being cheated. An old computer can easily freeze, and the game can sometimes crash as well. Trust each other, at least initially. And then you'll see if it's worth trusting this person. Lies usually come to light over time. I myself used to play with a bad internet connection and a computer that kept shutting down due to overheating... It's unpleasant, to be honest. I sometimes had to forfeit games due to frequent crashes and could only play normally with friends. bijho, I don't see anything criminal in Andrei's actions. It is quite possible that his computer rebooted (or he had to reboot it because it froze). The bot played for him and attacked you. You should have exited the game and loaded your last save (before his crash). Of course, you can choose not to believe it and get upset, saying that you have too many crashes, and at the most opportune moment, and so on, but I prefer to trust people in such situations. In the worst case, if you develop a prejudice against this player, no one forces you to play with him in the future. I'm sure there are honest people with a stable internet connection and a good computer on the forum. Andrei, judging by the logs, seems like a perfectly reasonable person: he apologized several times for his crashes, offered to give you the victory because of them, and did not behave rudely. I think you should think about it again and not jump to conclusions.