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I have a suggestion! I was thinking: TOURNAMENTS are a good thing, but they don't happen as often as their participants would like. Why not make it a RULE that the winner MUST (I'm trying not to use the word "obliged," although that's what I mean) create the next tournament. THIS WOULD NOT ONLY PROMOTE SOCIAL JUSTICE but also ensure the smooth running of the tournament (i.e., increase its frequency – and I'm telling you this as a MANAGER). Here's the scheme: The organizer creates a tournament – A winner is determined – The winner creates the next tournament, and the PREVIOUS winner-organizer helps him with this, sharing his experience with him (thus, the function of CONTINUITY is fulfilled). And our entire COMMUNITY of Heroes of Might and Magic will undergo an EVOLUTION – that is, we will not be looking for a CULPRIT, as is currently done in our country: "WELL, WHO WILL CREATE THIS TOURNAMENT?", but we will provide mutual support and assistance. At the management level, this will be called ON-THE-JOB TRAINING. We will TRAIN EVERYONE: 1. To play Heroes more skillfully and strategically (through more frequent tournaments). 2. In the art of not only playing Heroes well but also in the art of being a Leader-Organizer. (As a result, everyone will be able to PLAY WELL, and every other person will be good at CREATING). WE WILL TRAIN OUR STAFF, and the question, "Well, who will create the next tournament?" will disappear on its own. 3. And, of course, COMPETITIVENESS in the world of "HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC" will increase (it won't be the case that there are 3 participants for three prize-winning places – there will be MANY PARTICIPANTS, and the number of places will remain the same). I think it will be more interesting (it's much more pleasant to beat 50 participants than 2). I believe that the winner will be ABLE to organize a tournament, WITH HELP. After all, if he won, he is not a NOVICE, and if he is not a novice, then he has played Heroes, participated in tournaments, and won in them, i.e., he has EXPERIENCED and tried himself in all its ASPECTS. So it's time for the next step – ORGANIZER, and then everything starts over. BECAUSE IT'S LOGICAL: IF HE WON, THEN HE HAS SEEN EVERYTHING AND CAN CREATE, HE IS AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER. I am new to the forum (I only recently found out about it), BUT I am not a novice in Heroes and in life, so I suggested an idea on how we can all make our LIVES BRIGHTER. I have been playing Heroes for a LONG TIME, and in principle, I can win in its tournament, but I have no idea what IT ALL LOOKS LIKE, so I want to START by becoming a PARTICIPANT. I call for UNDERSTANDING, APPROVAL, and SUPPORT from the best and most regular participants of the SITE and other participants who can at least morally support my IDEA. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Prorock.
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19 years ago
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A good player is not always a skilled mapmaker. And preparing a map and a starting save file is one of the main tasks of the organizer.
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And what do you want to say with that, that this is Mission: Impossible 4?
19 years ago
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Prorock;36574
I have a suggestion!
I was thinking:
TOURNAMENTS are a good thing, but they don't happen as often as the participants would like.
Why not make it a RULE that the winner MUST (I'm trying not to use the word OBLIGED, although that's what I mean) create the next tournament.
THIS WOULD NOT ONLY CREATE SOCIAL JUSTICE, but also ensure the smooth running of the TOURNAMENT (i.e., it will increase its turnover - I'm telling you this as a MANAGER).
The scheme is as follows:
The organizer creates a tournament - The winner is determined - The winner creates the next tournament, and the PREVIOUS winner-organizer helps him in this, sharing his experience with him (Thus, the function of CONTINUITY is fulfilled). And our entire COMMUNITY of HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC is subjected to the effect of EVOLUTION - i.e., we will not look for the CULPRIT, as is currently done in our country: "WELL, WHO WILL CREATE THIS TOURNAMENT?", but we will provide mutual support and assistance.
At the management level, this will be called TRAINING PERSONNEL ON THE JOB.
We will TRAIN EVERYONE:
1. To play Heroes more skillfully and strategically (through more frequent TOURNAMENTS)
2. In the art of not only playing Heroes well, but also in the art of being a Leader-Organizer. (As a result, everyone will be able to PLAY WELL, and every other person will be good at CREATING). WE WILL TRAIN OUR STAFF, and the question: "Well, who will create the next tournament?" will disappear on its own.
3. And, of course, COMPETITIVENESS in the world of "HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC" will increase (it won't be the case that there are 3 participants for three prize-winning places - there will be MANY PARTICIPANTS, and the number of places will remain the same). I think it will be more interesting (it's much more pleasant to beat 50 participants than 2).

I believe that the winner will be ABLE to organize a tournament, WITH HELP. After all, if he won, he is not a NOVICE, and if he is not a novice, then he has played Heroes, participated in tournaments, and won in them, i.e., he has EXPERIENCED and tried himself in all its ASPECTS. So it's time for the next one - ORGANIZER, and then everything starts over. BECAUSE IT'S LOGICAL: IF HE WON, THEN HE HAS SEEN EVERYTHING AND CAN CREATE, HE IS AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER.

I am new to the forum (I only recently found out about it), BUT I am not new to Heroes and life, so I came up with an idea on how we can all make our LIVES BRIGHTER.
I have been playing Heroes for a very long time, and in principle I can win in its tournament, but I have no idea what ALL THIS LOOKS LIKE, so I want to START by becoming a PARTICIPANT.

I call for UNDERSTANDING, APPROVAL, and SUPPORT from the best and most regular participants of the SITE and other participants who can at least morally support my IDEA.

Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Prorock.

Thank you for the idea! It's very positive. However, for now, the same people may win tournaments here, and the chain may not work out. Also, our desires do not always match our capabilities. I am a player by nature, not an organizer. Therefore, I don't rush to lead, to be a moderator, etc. Another important point is that the tournament organizer must have certain financial resources, like Natasha, for example.
I will answer in more detail in the evening!
19 years ago
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Prorock;36574
I have a suggestion!
I was thinking about it the other day:
TOURNAMENTS are a good thing, but they don't happen as often as their participants would like.
Why not make it a RULE for TOURNAMENTS that the winner MUST (I try not to use the word OBLIGED, although I mean it) create the next tournament.
THIS WILL NOT ONLY CREATE SOCIAL JUSTICE, but also ENSURE THE SMOOTH RUNNING OF THE TOURNAMENT (i.e., increase its turnover - and I say this as a MANAGER).
The scheme is as follows:
An organizer creates a tournament -- A Winner is determined -- The Winner creates the next tournament, and the PREVIOUS Winner-organizer helps him in this, sharing his experience with him (Thus, the function of CONTINUITY is fulfilled). And our entire COMMUNITY of HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC will be subject to the effect of EVOLUTION - i.e., we will not look for someone to BLAME, as is currently done in our country: "WELL, WHO WILL CREATE THIS TOURNAMENT?", but we will provide mutual support and assistance.
At the management level, this will sound like TRAINING PERSONNEL ON THE JOB.
We will TRAIN EVERYONE:
1. To play Heroes more skillfully and strategically (through more frequent tournaments)
2. In the art of not only playing Heroes well, but also in the art of being a Leader-Organizer. (As a result, everyone will know how to PLAY WELL, and every other person will be good at CREATING [tournaments]). WE WILL DEVELOP OUR OWN кадры, and the question: "Well, who will create the next tournament?" will disappear on its own.
3. And naturally, COMPETITIVENESS in the world of "HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC" will increase (it won't be that there are 3 participants for three prize places – THERE WILL BE MANY PARTICIPANTS, and the number of places will remain the same). I think it will be more interesting (It's much nicer to beat 50 participants than 2).

I believe that the winner will be ABLE to organize a tournament, WITH HELP. Because if he Won - then he is not a Новичок, and if he is not a novice - then he has played heroes, participated in a tournament, and even won it, i.e., HE HAS EXPERIENCED and tried himself in all its ASPECTS. So it's time for the next one - ORGANIZER, and then everything starts over again. BECAUSE IT IS LOGICAL: IF HE WON - THEN HE SAW EVERYTHING AND CAN CREATE, HE IS AN EXPERIENCED PLAYER.

I am new to the forum (I only recently found out about it), BUT I am not new to Heroes and life, so I came up with an idea of how we can all make our LIVES BRIGHTER.
I have been playing Heroes for a very long time, and in principle I can win in its tournament, but I have no idea what ALL THIS LOOKS LIKE, so I want to START by becoming a PARTICIPANT.

I call on you to UNDERSTAND, APPROVE, and SUPPORT the best and most regular members of the SITE and other members who can at least morally support my IDEA.

Thank you in advance
Sincerely,
Prorock.

Thank you. But it would be better to discuss this issue in this thread:
/topic/at/32210/
And in general, within that context. And personally, I'm in favor of coordinators being appointed directly by the Admin, just like newsmakers and moderators are now.
Unfortunately, on the forum right now, whoever shouts the loudest is considered right. Strong players are not an authority for beginners! The forum is young, which is why there are difficulties.
You rightly pointed out that more numerous tournaments are better, however many wrote that they will not play in a rented tournament because too strong players gather there and it is impossible to win. :(
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Thanks for the great idea. It is definitely worth implementing, but I think it's too early to talk about such plans, since there are almost no Tournaments, i.e., there is no tournament system (or am I wrong?). And if there is no tournament system, does it make sense to talk about how to improve it? In other words, first you need to find the box, and then open it :) I mean, let's organize one, two, three Tournaments, and then we'll see what to do. We need regular participants, and in the early stages, regular organizers. I don't see anything wrong with the idea itself, but I think we can only approve it now and not forget about it in the future.

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And about training... Natasha promoted the idea of creating a tournament school, and she was privately told that she was conceited... And once again, they hinted that it would be better if she wasn't here at all...
It was very rightly noted that it is better to have numerous Tournaments, however, many wrote that they would not play in the ranked Tournament because there are too many strong players and it is impossible to win. :(
I will support Natasha if the idea is still relevant. By the way, I don't understand such insults directed at her. I personally heard from respected players and organizers that they would be happy if Natasha took on the task on their forum
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This is FOR NOW!
I didn't promise to make everything BRIGHT and POSITIVE in one second, BUT that's what we should strive for.
To be honest, I don't really want to create and organize; I WANT TO PARTICIPATE!
But if things continue like this, the few people who are doing all this will SOON GET TIRED OF IT.
LOOK, QWERTY went on strike – and I understand him.
As for the money, that's a separate topic; IT'S CERTAINLY GOOD, but is that the main thing?
I'll be waiting for a more detailed conversation in the evening.

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Thank you for the idea! It's very positive. However, for now, the same people can win Tournaments here, and a chain reaction might not happen. Also, our desires don't always match our capabilities. I'm a player by nature, not an organizer. That's why I don't rush to lead, be a moderator, etc. Another important point is that the person running the tournament must have certain financial resources, like Natasha, for example.
I'll answer in more detail in the evening!

I'LL BE WAITING
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19 years ago
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Gentlemen, I have moved the topic...
In my opinion, it's best to discuss tournaments in the tournament section.
With gratitude, your moderator Tengro.
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Prorock;36646


I WILL BE WAITING

Sent it to your inbox.

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Tengro;36672
Gentlemen, I moved the topic...
IMHO, it's better to discuss tournaments in the tournament section.
With gratitude, your moderator Tengro

It was indeed in the wrong place, but this is not just about Heroes of Might and Magic V. IMHO, it would be better to have a separate topic in the general suggestions for website improvements, or where Paladin suggested moving it.
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Thank you. But it would be better to discuss this issue in this thread:
/topic/at/32210/
And generally within that context. And personally, I am for the tournament coordinators being appointed directly by the Admin, just like newsmakers and moderators are now.
Unfortunately, on the forum right now, whoever shouts loudest is considered right. Strong players are not an authority for Новичок!
The forum is young, which is why there are difficulties.
As for training... Natasha promoted the idea of creating a tournament school, but she was privately told that she thinks too highly of herself... And once again, they hinted that it would be better if she wasn't here at all...
It has been rightly noted that numerous tournaments are better, however many wrote that they will not play in rented tournaments because too strong players gather there and it is impossible to win. :(

I meant not that STRENGTH and EXPERIENCE.
I mean those who have been on the forum for a long time and have an understanding of what is happening around, have seen a lot, and have a STRONG desire to change EVERYTHING FOR THE BETTER.
Why not support natasha!?
Let's help organize Tournaments according to SCHEDULE; I really LIKE THIS IDEA.

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I don't understand what indefinite tournaments mean! But the idea of holding tournaments on schedule appeals to me very much. And the fact that my idea pleases many people, but will not be implemented – I somehow knew this in advance, because this is Dragon Utopia, since I, as a Новичок of the site, still do not know many nuances. Indeed, the issue of checking saves remains very interesting (because you can hack the game)...?

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Gentlemen, I moved the topic...
IMHO, it is better to discuss tournaments in the tournament section.
With gratitude, your moderator Tengro

This is PHILOSOPHY, and IT is not limited in its concept, but you immediately say: ONE, TWO, and TO THE FIFTH!


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CTPAHHuK;36644
Thank you for the good idea. It certainly deserves implementation, but I think it is too early to talk about such ideas, since there are almost no tournaments yet, i.e., there is no system of tournaments (or am I wrong?). And if there is no system of tournaments, does it make sense to talk about how to improve it?
In other words, first you need to find a box, and then open it :)
I mean that let's organize one, second, third tournament, and then we will see what to do. We need permanent participants, and at the initial stages, permanent organizers.
I don't see anything bad in the idea itself, but I think we can only approve it now and not forget about it in the future )

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I will support Natasha if the idea remains.
By the way, I don't understand these insults directed at her. I personally heard from respected players and organizers that they would be happy if Natasha took up the task on their forum

Well, let's all support Natasha, because people with INITIATIVE are not liked in our country. She is trying, and this is how she is treated.
As far as I understand, she is not here yet - we need to wait.
Maybe we should look for a box?:)
19 years ago
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Prorock;36574

The scheme is as follows:
The organizer creates a tournament – A winner is determined – The winner creates the next tournament, and the PREVIOUS winner-organizer helps him with this, sharing his experience with him (thus, the function of CONTINUITY is fulfilled). And our entire community of HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC is subjected to the effect of EVOLUTION - i.e., we will not look for a CULPRIT, as is currently being done in our country: "WELL, WHO WILL CREATE THIS TOURNAMENT?", but we will provide mutual support and assistance.

The ideas are good. But organizing it is still quite feasible. However, objectively judging a tournament, especially an arena-type one...
This is such a complex and time-consuming task!
It's better if Natasha does it; there's no one else.
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Initiative is a good thing, but I believe this project is impossible for a number of reasons already mentioned by others (a good player is not always a good organizer; not everyone has the desire, and most importantly, the time to be an organizer, and I personally respect people who find both). But keep suggesting ideas, because if you don't, nothing good will come of it. I hope you come up with more realistic ideas. We'll see :)
I personally didn't know about the attempt to create a school... and I'm all for it! Natasha, keep it up!
I also wanted to and still want to create something similar (a school) for Heroes of Might and Magic V in our clan. For this, tournaments will be held, and educational topics will be created, in which the winners of the tournaments should also contribute
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I'm new to the forum, so my first idea was quite UTOPIAN (I couldn't even imagine back then that it would be SO unfeasible).
But that's okay, tomorrow is another day, and there will be new IDEAS, closer to REALITY.

THANK YOU to everyone who supported me in one way or another.

Sincerely,
Prorock.
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Prorock;37223
I'm new to the forum, so my first idea was quite UTOPIAN (I couldn't even imagine back then how UNREALISTIC it was).
But that's okay, tomorrow will come, and there will be new IDEAS, more grounded in REALITY.

THANK YOU to everyone who supported me in one way or another.

Sincerely,
Prorock.

Strangely enough, we are increasingly moving in this direction.
Natasha asks me, PALADIN, or Horna to oversee the tournaments during periods of absence!
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nprf;38786
Surprisingly, we are increasingly following this path.
Natasha asks me, PALADIN, or Horna to oversee the tournaments during periods of her absence!

Yes, in principle, she is doing the right thing by delegating her responsibilities. This means that in case of anything, there will be someone who can not only oversee the tournaments but also run them.
The idea, as I said, is UTOPIAN, but it's a good one!

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