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IMHO, translating the arrows to Vigo seems wrong, especially after most people agreed that Alexa shouldn't have been banned or excluded from the tournament. Maybe it's better to be consistent. No offense.
Земля нуля. Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
Мозай
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Hi everyone... does anyone still remember me?... Thanks for providing the link to this thread... I didn't reread the whole thing... the first few posts were enough... I want to share my opinion.... Heroes (SoD)... or Platinum... I grew up with this game... no matter how many changes it underwent, it will always remain a great game!!!! I even draw a parallel with chess... Of course, no one is immune to such shenanigans, and there will always be cheating and fraud on the internet... I've always played fairly... and not for the sake of a certain ranking or victory... but because I really enjoyed it (playing against a real person)... I realized these machinations right away when, in a certain year, at a very large championship, I was alarmed by why people, on the first move with a time limit of 1 minute, spent 200% of their time on the first move... more than 30 minutes... (those who play such blitz games will certainly understand me)... And it was practically the same in every game... at first, I thought that these were very skilled players who had played many battles... in short, I don't know what I was thinking then... But I realized that 99.9% of the time, it was the same thing: analyzing the map. I don't want to accuse anyone of anything, but interest in online Competitive games has decreased significantly... Offline Tournaments are also good; you can study the map as much as you want and plan what to do... but the downside is that they take a lot of time, and you have to play the map not once or twice... I'll wrap it up... cheaters will always exist... the question is how to deal with them and what sanctions to apply... this needs to be decided together... but I want to warn you right away that in one case, you will prove that a cheater was caught, but the rest will calmly continue to do the same thing and smile, saying that when they get caught, then they'll deal with it... some kind of system is needed, I don't know what... but for now, you just have to believe in the honesty of all players... P.S. Captain
Dear cheaters, what will victory give you? a sense of superiority? that's ridiculous. if a person cannot earn real money, that is an indicator of his mental abilities (we often compare Heroes to intelligent tasks). Therefore, I subconsciously believe those who have real money, who have achieved the status of directors in real life...
Huge respect, considering that over the years, I have become the director of my own company... thanks to everyone
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By the way, here's how foreigners deal with such situations: - They have a rule: no restarts without a valid reason. There's no concept like ours – restarting on turn 111 or 113. Maybe we should abolish that too? - They prefer templates that don't require extensive analysis (peeking at the map) – like Bananas, Panic, Blockbuster... Maybe we should play/try more on these templates that some people dislike?
P.S. Mosaic, *beer*!
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
By the way, there's a way out of such situations, as foreigners have found: - they have a rule: no restarts without a reason. There's no such thing as a restart on turn 111 or 113. Maybe we should cancel that too? - they prefer templates that don't require special analysis (peeking at the map) - like Banas, Panic, Blockbuster... Maybe we should play/try more on these templates that some people don't like?
No, that's not for me. And I don't really understand how canceling restarts relates to cheating?:confused:
Ибу ибуди - хуйдао муди - Шаг за шагом можно достигнуть цели (китайская мудрость)
Кто к нам с пером придёт, тот от пера и погибнет!:smile51:
Soroka
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KostyaN
No, I'm out. And I didn't even understand what the connection is between removing rests and cheating.
Hello, regarding templates – everyone decides what they want to play, and you can agree on this with your opponent. As for removing rests – it removes the ability to analyze the map and play as is. But even after opening and viewing the map, the cheater still needs to implement it, which is not very easy for players who are not at a high level...
Drink up, then I'll refill your glass...
Ты будешь жрать мир, или мир будет жрать тебя — в любом случае все о'кей, все идет по плану.
By the way, there's a way out of such situations, as foreigners have found: - they have a rule: no restarts without a reason. There's no such thing as a restart on turn 111 or 113. Maybe we should cancel that too? - they prefer templates that don't require special analysis (peeking at the map) - like Banas, Panic, Blockbuster... Maybe we should play/try more on these templates that some people don't like?
P.S. Mosaic, *beer*!
There's an even more effective solution - play on WT (World Tournament). There, the most obvious ways of cheating are already being addressed (the map is not saved, cheat codes don't work, launching 2 copies of the game is impossible), and in the future, there will be even more obstacles - the inability to load multiplayer games in single-player mode and hotseat, encryption of save files, logging of game actions on the server, etc.
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Wicc
There is a much more effective solution – play on WT. There, the most obvious ways to cheat are already being addressed (the map is not saved, cheat codes do not work, launching two copies of the game is impossible), and in the future, there will be even more obstacles – the inability to load multiplayer games in single-player mode and hotseat, encryption of save files, logging of game actions on the server, etc.
Are you saying that, having two computers at his disposal, he won't be able to view the map?
Drink up, then I'll refill your glass...
Ты будешь жрать мир, или мир будет жрать тебя — в любом случае все о'кей, все идет по плану.
Are you saying that with two computers at hand he won't be able to look at the map??
He will, but cheats don't work so you won't get very far.... i.e., the main advantage is being able to see the opponent's situation; as far as I know, in SoD you can actually view the opponent even without cheats..... And since he's a Loser, it won't be possible to see what's in Dragon Utopia and easily uncover the map.
Please add the option for SOD balance; I will only play on Warlord Tower.
Земля нуля. Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
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I've played over 15 games with the "evil romantic" and it never occurred to me that he might be cheating (I even watched the first 5 games, and he completely crushed me, and I was trying to find excuses for myself, like he had a better starting position, etc.). Then, after watching some streams and analyzing his moves, I started to win occasionally :) and I still have no reason not to trust him. ;) I can't say the same about the guy I call "Loser", with whom I've also played about 10 games, and I had some doubts, but I didn't want to delve into it:smile29: hoping that it wasn't just luck or that he was simply a better player. That's how it is, that's what I think:p
Another pathetic, romantic character from the same group. When I showed him the video, he said, "Oh! My! That's amazing!!!! I renounce them!!!", but now he's saying, "There's no solution." Ugh, what a load of crap.
Listen, DEEPLY RESPECTED ASM, can you post the logs from our ICQ conversation where I wrote that I renounce them? I wrote that it was unexpected and that I didn't expect this from a player on my team, but until a decision is made about the "loser," all doubts are interpreted in favor of the accused, so please allow me to stick to my opinion. And regarding my group, it seems that many people have vouched for my reputation, but shouting on every corner, "I'm a witness, I saw..." It seems like you didn't have time to deal with this issue – you even wrote that someone else should handle it, but then suddenly... you found the time... you caught a cheater, what a star!
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asm, hunting "enemies of the people" usually ends with what happened in '37... a tugging. IMHO, you should apologize to Zloy romantik.
Cheaters usually show a high win percentage, which—given the current average skill of portal players—is unreal.
From the autumn-winter 2009-2010 rating: 147 злой_романтик 16 30 48 Zloy romantik is as low as 147th position, 30 losses out of 48 games... it turns out he's some kind of "stupid" cheater :)
And you, zloy romantik—well, that's going too far—surely you don't need a passport to prove someone is a cheater :) And this thread has been dragging on for quite a while—maybe AK is afraid she'll be bullied again? It would take half a day to clear everything up, since all the heroes of this romance live in Moscow.
Added after 4 minutes WiccThere is a much more effective way out—play on WT. Even now, the most obvious methods of cheating are covered (the map isn't saved, cheat codes don't work, launching 2 copies of the game is impossible), and in the future there will be even more obstacles—the impossibility of loading multiplayer games in single player and hotseat, save encryption, logging of game actions on the server, etc.Wick, all these protections are for children; everything can be bypassed. The only thing is that it's much easier to catch cheaters in WT... asm and I have already started talking about this :)
Дипломатия - искусство говорить собаке "хорошая собачка" до тех пор пока не найдешь подходящую палку.
Vic, all these protections are for kids; everything can be bypassed.
Firstly, the level of computer literacy among Heroes players is quite low, which makes even simple measures effective.
Secondly, after implementing all the protection ideas, a very high level of computer literacy will be required to bypass them.
And thirdly, some of the protection layers can be left undocumented – so that it would be difficult not only to crack them but also to even detect them.
So, the prospects are very bright...
Nagan-4
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There's a much more effective solution – play on WT.
Damn, and I'm quite the traditionalist, but I'll move my tournaments to WT. It seems the Heroes world is close to a real unification.