. 6 out of 23 is clearly a minority in every aspect, it's inhumane to force the rest to play with a bare SoD, or even worse, a TE-lite.
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Лидер клана "Из многих единое"
Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
I might come to watch and cheer if everything works out. ;) Would you welcome me?
And the presence of the fairer sex at such an event will not only enhance the occasion but also add sophistication to the male company:)
P.S. Just don't say it's a joke.)))
There will also be a lot of spectators and fans. More than one delegation is preparing.)))
P.S. Please don't say it's a joke)))
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Лидер клана "Из многих единое"
Приключения – это сплошные неприятности, только про них почему-то потом интересно вспоминать...
Lol. Most are not against SoD\TE lite, but the humanism of the full-version supporters knows no bounds :D
And in general, why do you care? Not a participant, not an organizer, haven't even appeared in any of the qualifiers? Oh! maybe a sponsor?!:D
And frankly, what difference does it make to you? You're not a participant, not an organizer, and you haven't even shown up in any of the qualifiers? Oh, maybe you're a sponsor?! :D
The problem is that it's not necessary to portray 8 people who prefer TE full (probably a large part of them are from the CIS region :D) as the majority and promote and forcibly impose their favorite full build everywhere.
Is forcing it done through voting among the finalists?
There was a vote, and TE full won. If you want SOD to win, win the qualifiers, and your vote will be taken into account. But among those who made it, TE is the most popular. Maybe this is a sign of skill?
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First of all, the situation with Moscow is unclear.
Eddi, Pit for LM, Kebazavr, Stinger, vitalic - the ranking of places.
If Kebazavr isn't going, the 3rd place from Moscow is Stinger. I think it would be unfair to take a spot away from Michurinsk. Although, I'd really like to chat with Vitalik—I learned the basics of HoMM from him—but that's just if we're talking about fairness.
Regarding the version, it would be good for the generalists to finally decide. We could get rid of the nonsense and flood. A clear number of votes would put everything in its place.
From the table Sanya posted, it is clearly seen:
9 people for TE
6 people for SoD (TE-lite)
1 person for TE/TE-lite
2 generalists
3 undecided; by the way, does anyone know anything about Napalm?
I think it's fair to set the base version as whatever the majority voted for. And by agreement—anything at all :)
I didn't want to get involved, but since I'm already part of this... :)
First of all, the Moscow situation is unclear.
Eddi, Pit for LM, Kebazavr, Stinger, vitalic - the order of places.
If Kebazavr isn't coming, 3rd place from Moscow goes to Stinger. I don't think it's fair to take a place away from Michurinsk. Although, I would really like to chat with Vitalik; I learned the basics of HoMM from him, but that's just if we're talking about fairness.
Regarding the version, it would be good if the universal players could finally decide. This would eliminate the nonsense and chatter. A clear number of votes would put everything in its place.
From the table that Sanya posted, it's clear:
9 people are for TE
6 people are for SoD (TE-lite)
1 person is for TE/TE-lite
2 people are for universal
3 are undecided, and someone knows something about Napalm?
I think it's fair to set the base version to what the majority voted for. And by agreement - anything goes :)
Initially, it was said that we would use TE-lite as the basis for the final. Was there such a statement from Nagana...?
I was against it - I wanted SoD. And I made SoD the basis in Kyiv.
Vlk777 - even though he butted in here with his..., caused a stir, and started another argument, he's somewhat right - there are only a couple of TE players who are really pushing for TE - two buddies :)
Let's respect everyone, and not try to dominate. It's not so difficult for TE players to play on SoD or TE-lite. They've proven it - at least these two friends ;)
A simple count of votes won't help here. Eddie also sent me his vote - also for pure SoD. Eddie, Pit, Vitalik - these are the pros.
And also - the winners of most of the qualifiers are pure SoD players:
- in Kyiv - Aldegyr - pure SoD
- in Michurinsk - Leha - pure SoD
- in Moscow - Eddie - pure SoD
- Siberia - Van - pure SoD
So, you can count the "majority" like this ;) - 4 out of 7 are for SoD, and only one - Yekaterinburg - is for TE.
Statistics is a tricky science :)
Therefore, the final decision from the organizer (me) and the judge (Vika) - the base version is TE-lite. By agreement - SoD, TE-full, wt.
That's it. Anyone who wants to discuss versions further - go to the garden :)
More precisely - the neighboring thread: SoD vs TE.
Otherwise, we'll just end up arguing.
Regarding Moscow. The situation there is generally unclear. Pit is talking somewhat uncertainly about his trip, Eddie doesn't know if he'll be able to come. Kebazavr refused due to work.
If we judge by logic, then Stinger and Preds shouldn't even go to the final :)... I know, I know what the fuss will be about. Everyone has heard about Stinger, I haven't played with him - but I know he's strong. But he didn't qualify in Moscow. And this is a small indicator of the strength of the Moscow tournament.
Plus, he had a place in Michurinsk. Therefore, my suggestion is - Stinger goes from Michurinsk, and if someone else from Moscow can't make it, then we'll invite Wowa from Moscow and give 4-5 places to Michurinsk.
Initially, it was said that we would base the final on the TE-lite version. Was that the case, according to Nagan...?
Let's respect everyone, instead of trying to dominate. For TE players, it's not so bad to play on SOD or TE-lite.
A simple count of votes won't help here. Eddie also sent me his vote - it's also for pure SOD. Eddie, Pete, Vitalik - these are the pros.
And also - the winners of most of the qualifiers are pure SOD players:
- in Kyiv - Aldegyr - pure SOD
- in Michurinsk - Leha - pure SOD
- in Moscow - Eddie - pure SOD
- Siberia - Van - pure SOD
Therefore, you can count the "majority" like this ;) - 4 out of 7 are for SOD, and only one - Yekaterinburg - is for TE.
Statistics is a tricky science :)
The difference between a SOD player and a TE player is very simple - the first is afraid to lose because he doesn't know the TE features, this is a real fear of losing! The second - doesn't want to play SOD because he understands that he can better demonstrate his skill with TE, and not because he plays worse in SOD! This is important, I think :)
But since you've all decided... :)
Okay, according to this.
Therefore, the organizer's (my) and the judge's (Vika) decision – TE-lite is the basis. By agreement – SOD, TE-full, wt.
That's it. Anyone who wants to discuss versions further can go to the garden :)
One person voted for it, and it was Captain, who might not even be in Kyiv, and decided to let his buddies win with SOD.
Why put on a circus with the voting then? Just SOD, SM, and let's go.
For example: Term, Kobra, me, Volodymyr don't play SOD voluntarily. (I deleted it a year ago, for example). And we are part of the majority. And we have to lose just because the vote "wasn't counted." Democracy first. Run the qualifiers and vote for SOD. Then it will be SOD (TE lite).
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Regarding Moscow. The situation there is unclear... Pete is speaking somewhat uncertainly about his trip, Eddie doesn't know if he'll go. Kebba declined due to work.
If we judge logically, Stinger and Preds shouldn't be going to the finals... I know, I know, there will be an uproar now. Everyone has heard about Stinger; I haven't played with him, but I know he's strong. But he didn't qualify in Moscow. And that's a small indicator of the strength of the Moscow tournament.
Plus, he had a spot in Michurinsk. Therefore, my suggestion is that Stinger goes from Michurinsk, and if anyone else from Moscow can't make it, then we'll invite Wowa from Moscow and take 4-5 spots from Michurinsk.
That is, if Kebazavr declines, his quota goes to Mizrael. If Pete or Eddie decline, his quota goes to Vitalik. And so on.
We voted, and Captain came, who might not even be in Kyiv, and decided to kick out SoD for his guys.
Why put on a circus with the voting then? Just SoD, SM, and let's go.
For example: Term, Cobra, me, Volodymyr don't play SoD voluntarily. (I deleted it a year ago, for example). And we are part of the majority. And we have to put up with it because the voting "wasn't counted." Just like that, out of the blue. Democracy first. Go through the qualifiers and vote for SoD. Then there will be SoD (TE light).
I suggest just revoting and that's it...
There isn't a problem as such, there's a problem with understanding.