Posts from Club championship of the CIS countries.

Dear Kyiv organizers, please finalize the dates as soon as possible so that we can book cheaper plane/train tickets. I believe this is relevant for all out-of-town participants!

Dear Kyiv Organizers, please finalize the dates as soon as possible so that we can book cheaper plane/train tickets. I believe this is relevant for all participants from other cities!

We all have weekends on May 1-2-3 and 8-9-10.

There will be about 21 finalists.

Therefore, we need to start on May 1st in the morning, and finish... well, it will definitely take about 4 days, right?
Please share your suggestions here within this week (by March 7th).

1. 2sm4d(3), Jebus Cross, 8mm6(8mm6a)
2. I would like to see TE :)
3. Let's discuss it in person.

1. SoD, TE-lite
2. 2sm4d(3), Panic, Balance, Jebus
3. HW, WCL
4. Not sure yet.

1. 8mm6, 8mm6a, nostalgia, mininostalgia, 2cm4d (3)
2. TE-full
3. HP
3. As a sponsor, I am open to collaborating with any third-party organization or individual.

After analyzing the lineup of participants for the upcoming CIS championship, the idea arose to hold another qualifying tournament in Ukraine, as there will be few representatives from that country in the main event, especially since the country hosting the event is Ukraine. I found support for this idea among players such as Neo, Джавдет, Медиум, Ребеллиоус, and contacted Nagan. It has now been more than a month, but neither I nor Neo, who also contacted him with the same request, have received any response. Therefore, I decided to post here, to nominate myself, so to speak. Location: Dnepropetrovsk. Organizer: Piterius. Date: to be discussed, there is still time before the May holidays. Desired duration: three days, Friday-Sunday or Saturday-Monday. Expected participants: Neo, Ребеллиоус, Алекс_P, Джавдет, Медиум, КостяН (these are local players and from nearby regions – Zaporozhye, Nikopol, Simferopol). Also, I think there are other players from other regions of Ukraine, including Kyiv, who would like to qualify for the championship. There are no restrictions for players from Russia and Belarus; anyone who has the opportunity is welcome, and our prices are more than reasonable. So, who will give me the go-ahead to hold the event? Nagan, Pit, or maybe Captain???

Okay, I won't wait for anyone else. Those who didn't respond clearly didn't want to participate. The results are in the Excel file. I've compiled a list of templates based on player responses, not just what I felt like doing. Regarding the finalist players: It's unclear if Eddie will be able to come. Kebba definitely can't make it. FH from Yekaterinburg - his participation is 50/50. Siberia - there are big question marks about all three players. Time: 4 days is enough for the Swiss system. One and a half rounds per day - 5-6 rounds. This would be May 1-4. For games that last longer than a day, we won't finish them; instead, all the finalists will judge them by voting. Templates: We'll decide as we did in Moscow - a choice of 5 templates: см, Джебус, 8мм6, 8хм12, and either Nostalgia or 6лм10. I would suggest that players be particularly careful with 8хм12 (which has 55 zones!!!) and Nostalgia - these two templates take a long time to play, which is not good for the tournament. Therefore, let's leave 6лм10 as the 5th template. Game Version: I suggest using TE-Lite as the base, as Nagan already mentioned before the start of the tournament. I wanted WT - simultaneous turns up to 116 and the ability to select templates with checkboxes - but the author of WT, asm, says that there can be bugs with simultaneous turns. By mutual agreement, we can play on any other version - SOD with Lite, TE-Lite, TE-Full. Does anyone have any objections or suggestions? Rules: The majority are in favor of HotA, but this isn't as crucial as the game version. Club: It's the same as before. This week, I want to suggest that Sem and Volodimir go there. Organizers: Wic - judge Sem - meeting/assistance with accommodation Resolving controversial situations - voting by all the finalists Gorbik - official duties, possibly advertising and prizes. Prices: Accommodation - the best option is apartments. The price is from $25 per day for the entire apartment - usually 4 people can fit there, and if you take a larger apartment... For the club, approximately $20 for 4 days - this is not the Moscow price of $4 per hour. Food: There's a great restaurant nearby called Puzata Khata - lunch is about $5. PS. While I was writing this, I saw a message from Peterius... Yes, we can't ban a qualifier. If someone is eager to play, then it's a sign from above. However, the list for this qualifier consists of players who have already been in the Kyiv tournament... not a single new player? Well, Alex_R is there... I would advise that if there are more new players, we play a qualifier, but if it's just Alex, then...

PS. While I was writing, I saw a message from Peterius... yes, you can't ban someone from participating in the qualifiers. If someone is eager to play in the hero league, then it's their destiny :)
However, the list of participants in the qualifiers consists of players who have already been in the Kyiv league... are there no new players?

I wrote down the names of those I know. This is a tentative roster, and the final one may be completely different.

Game version:
I suggest using TE-Lite as the base, as Nagan mentioned before the tournament.
I wanted WT - simultaneous turn until 116 and the ability to select templates with checkboxes - but the WT author, asm, says that there can be bugs with simultaneous turns.

By mutual agreement, we can play on any other version - SOD with Lite, TE-Lite, TE-Full.
Does anyone have any objections or suggestions?

So, the majority votes for TE Full, but TE Lite (read SOD) suddenly appears?
The base should be what the majority votes for. And by agreement, they can play whatever they want. IMHO.

So the majority is voting for TE full, but then TE light (read SoD) comes out of nowhere?
The basis should be whatever the majority wants. And by agreement, whatever they desire. Imho

An old song about the main thing :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

So, the majority votes for the full version. And then, out of nowhere, the light version appears (let's say, SoD)?
The base should be what the majority wants. And the rest can be decided by agreement. That's my opinion.

Don't worry :). Let's go with the Light version. After all, many participants come from the SoD community, so it wouldn't be fair to force them to play an unfamiliar version in addition to the unfamiliar templates. We don't want to turn the championship into a gathering of only TE players.

Personally, I would like to add that the "SoD by mutual agreement" option is not a good idea - the potential for dragging out the game on SoD is much higher. Simply because in SoD, each turn takes 6 minutes + battles, while in Light, the timer becomes a significant factor in the late game, forcing players to hurry.

And there's the factor of roads. The game between Eddie and Preds is a good example of what happens when you try to play XL+U on slow roads. You need at least medium roads, and for this tournament, maybe even fast roads. Plus, a preview to check for restarts after a match. Because if something drags on, there won't be an opportunity to finish it later, as in Moscow.

Also, the rules should somehow specify the possibility of scheduling some games in parallel with each other. That is, if, for example, one match is dragging on, and it is not possible to determine the result, then the players start the match of the next round, while continuing to play the previous one. During the last day of the Moscow qualifier, several matches were played in this way - the second game was started without time control. With Light, it's more convenient in this regard - it doesn't start the timer until the turn is accepted, so you can even play with time control.

Regarding the templates, Captain's option is normal. Between Nosty and LM, LM is definitely better, at least because the distances are shorter. There's no need to worry too much about HM; the distance is influenced not so much by the number of zones as by the structure of the connections, and on HM, it is quite good - there is a dedicated center, usually compact and strongly connected, where contact usually occurs around week 2.

Don't mistake wishful thinking for reality ;)

Check out the file with the voting, and then you can decide whether or not to go where you shouldn't.

Please leave the irrelevant and offensive comments in the chat. Forest made a good suggestion – to separate the SOD and TE players for the first few rounds. There will be approximately 20 people. Playing two rounds like this will be perfectly fine. Vik +1 for everything. So, we're removing Nostalgia from the templates and keeping Legends of Might and Magic. Fast travel – definitely on Heroes of Might and Magic, and on the others – as desired. And map preview – yes, I suggest we do it like we did in Moscow, since Vik was there.

Where your mysterious file is, nobody knows, but it's plain to see that most of those who've posted here are not for TE-full.

arm your eye with this

So then — I'm not waiting for anyone else. Whoever voted, that means they wanted it.

The results are in the Excel file. I compiled the list of templates based on the players' responses, not because I felt like it.
USSR.zip

6 for SOD, 8 for TE, the rest are universal. If SOD players are fundamentally unwilling to learn TE, I suggest flipping a coin (heads or tails) when SOD and TE(WT) meet. Many have already realized that Heroes of Might and Magic is much richer than the infamous CM, and many have also become familiar with the WT version and seen the advantages of the new Heroes. There is no need to divide anyone; what is the point of reverse seeding, like Alex-Stinger in the first round, because they both don't care. 6 out of 23 is clearly a minority in all calculations; it is inhumane to force the rest to play a bare SOD or, even worse, a TE-lite version. And TE really saves time; it will no longer be possible to set up 3600+400 and drag out the game as in SOD.