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In reply to natasha
19 years ago
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I suggest increasing the deadline to 4 weeks!
The map is huge, and the Heroes League tournament has already started!!!
In reply to nprf
19 years ago
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I suggest increasing the deadline to 4 weeks!
The map is huge, and the League of Heroes tournament has already started!!!

If there are many people who want to play in the League, then we will have to do so. But I haven't seen what the map is like yet, so maybe it won't take that much time.
The main thing is to finish our tournament before the Grand Slam Tournament in the League, where we would like to compete under a single banner
(http://www.forum.heroesworld.ru/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=33541) !:)
I think we will create a team to participate after our tournament!!! ;)
In reply to natasha
19 years ago
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natasha;34168
If there are many people who want to play in the League, then we will have to do it. But I haven't seen what the map is like there yet, so it might not take much time.
The main thing is to finish our tournament before the Grand Slam Tournament in the League, where we would like to compete under a single banner
(http://www.forum.heroesworld.ru/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=33541) !:)
I think that after our tournament, we will create a team to participate!!! ;)
I haven't looked at the assignment yet.
But I remember King of Random! It's not even about the difficulty of the map, but the fact that the computer takes quite a long time to make its moves... And the number of game days is twice as many as standard.
The idea of a team is interesting, but I've been in the League for so long that it's not very convenient to compete there on behalf of another website...
But we'll see!
In reply to nprf
19 years ago
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Sent an improved save file for round 1. I'm also participating in the league, but only with 5 main heroes, and there's an arena tournament there as well.
In reply to Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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Emer-Gen;34346
Sent the improved save file for round 1.
I'm also participating in the league, but only with 5 heroes, and there's an arena tournament there as well.
Received your save file and pagana's save file.
So far, there are 5 participants.
I saw it in the Top 10 for 5 heroes and in the tables!!! :)
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19 years ago
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I can’t seem to send the save file. Please wait a bit. My emails just won’t go through.
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19 years ago
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Sent 2 saves. Honestly, I don't know if this is allowed by the rules or not. I don't know which option is better. Although, if it's clearly visible that the army and hero are weak, then you can choose any :). Huge respect to the map author. I really liked it. But to fully appreciate it, you need to play it at least 3 times. :) I'm looking forward to seeing information about the maximum army size and hero level, as well as some comments on the walkthrough. Good luck to everyone! :)
In reply to Zingel
19 years ago
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Sent 2 saves. Honestly, I don't know if this is allowed by the rules or not. I don't know which option is better. Although, if it's clearly visible that the army and hero are weak, then you can choose any :).

Mega respect to the map author. I really liked it. But to fully appreciate it, you need to play it at least 3 times. :)

I'm looking forward to seeing information about the maximum army and hero, as well as some comments on the walkthrough.

Good luck to everyone! :)

Thank you for participating! I received the saves.
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19 years ago
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So, it's already 2:54 PM, which means the submission period is officially over, so we can start discussing! :)

I think there's one major issue with this map – the "clone" spell. I just thought about it.
If you use this spell every turn, an extra turn with 40 Archangels will easily decide the outcome of the battle!
Given that even Barbarians have a magic power >40 and the first castle has "Chain Lightning," instead of a necklace +3 skills to all hero attributes, I put a "lightning resistance" necklace on him. :) And as a result, there's no point in playing a hero who specializes in Chain Lightning on this map.

There's a catastrophic lack of money! I accumulated a lot of troops
In reply to AlexeyPank
19 years ago
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AlexeyPank;34486
I can't seem to send the save file. I would greatly appreciate it if you could wait a little. My emails just aren't going through.
We'll wait!
I have a different problem. I can't access my email...
Please send the save files to both email addresses: natasha@heroes.ru and heroesV@pochta.ru
So far, I've received save files from the following players: nprf, pred (only one save so far, please clarify if the promised improvement will be included), PALADIN, Emer-Gen (including the improved one), pagan, Zingel.

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Zingel;34511
Okay, it's 2:54 PM, which means the submission period is officially over, so we can start discussing! :)

I think there's a major issue with this map – the "Clone" spell. I just realized that.
If you use this spell every turn, an extra turn with 40 Archangels will easily decide the outcome of the battle!
Given that even the Barbarians have a magic power of >40 and have "Chain Lightning" in their first castle, instead of a +3 skill amulet for all hero attributes, I put a "Lightning Protection" amulet on him. :) And as a result, there's no point in playing a hero who specializes in Chain Lightning on this map.

There's a catastrophic lack of money! I accumulated a lot of troops, but I couldn't buy them!!! It's a nightmare!

Yes, Clone is the most important spell here!!! Those who understand this are leading the tournament.
You also need to think about money at the start of the game. You should hire more heroes who specialize in money and train them in the Finance skill at the witch's hut!
The choice of hero is a very important aspect of this map. I will discuss this in more detail in the arena analysis. I will only note that, given the abundance of level 7 monsters in the final armies, warriors turn out to be stronger. I specifically put Tazar in the starting save!
In reply to natasha
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19 years ago
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We're waiting!
Yes, Clone is the most important spell here! Those who understand this are the ones who lead in the tournament.
You also need to think about money at the start of the game. You should hire more heroes who are good with money and train them in the Finance skill in the Witch Hut!
The choice of hero is a very important aspect of this map. I will discuss it in more detail in the arena analysis. I will only note that, given the abundance of level 7 monsters in the final armies, warriors turn out to be stronger; that's why I specifically put Tazar in the starting save!

Damn, oh my! :)
And in the second skirmish, I bet on Resurrect and Titans! And I didn't even bother to build magic in the second town :-(

And in the first skirmish, it was Tazar, but it seems like his defense should be reduced significantly?! And only dragons and archers, without Titans. But with Clone.

And regarding money, I had 5 heroes + 350 gold, plus, of course, the basic Estates.

By the way, I was playing on SoD; I don't have WoG or TE :( Will the result be counted? :)
Although, it's clear what kind of result it is :)
In reply to Zingel
19 years ago
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I don't know about cloning. I didn't develop it further in the second improved save. Because there was no water expert. Instead, I developed Resurrection and Meteor Shower very well, but that's not the main thing – the main thing is the explosion of about 9000, which will immediately eliminate about 30 archangels, and just in case, due to magic resistance, summon about 210 earth elementals at a time. The army includes 43 black dragons, 36 archangels, and other various units.
In reply to Emer-Gen
19 years ago
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Posted the results of the first round (summary table and arenas)
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Leader arena – nprf-Pred
Both heroes have the Warrior class! Nprf has Mephala (specializing in Armor!), and Pred has Thorgrim (specializing in Resist!). Both have an expert clone skill!!! Both were wary of berserkers.
Nprf solved the problem more originally – he chose a hero with tactics! Pred relied on resistance. In addition, the hero has intelligence skill, expert earth elemental summoning, and resurrection.

As a result, Mephala is a stronger warrior, and after a long exchange of blows, with the help of his archangel clone, Pred's forces are defeated and trampled, preventing them from being resurrected! After that, it turns out that the one with more mana wins. The archangel clone proves to be more effective than summoning elementals.
Pred's crucial mistake was untimely doubling the hero's mana. Having the intelligence skill, he was forced to visit a simple well. He no longer had time to change things.
However, even then, the chances would only be for a draw, but not for a victory. Here, the elixir of life is very important, with which you can simply stand under the attacks of level 7 troops…

Pred’s arena – PALADIN. PALADIN admitted defeat. His plan was an expert berserker + sphere of vulnerability, removing magic. Then, by equipping all speed-boosting artifacts due to turn order, he would have won.
But he couldn't find the sphere in the artifact chest…

PALADIN arena – Emer-Gen
The outcome is obvious. Against a strong warrior who has resistance, a mage is clearly weak.
Very telling.

Emer-Gen arena – Zingel
I made two arenas because Zingel sent two saves. Of course, this is against the rules, and the player should make their own choice. But this is one of those cases where changing places doesn't change the outcome. Zingel didn't take care of resistance, and he has nothing to protect himself from explosions or blindness! Tazar can provide some resistance, but that's it.
(only posted one, there's just nothing to see in the second)

Zingel arena - pagan
The advantage of the first is so great, in all parameters, that even without the arena, everything is clear.

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By the way, I played on SoD, I don’t have WoG or TE :( . Will the result be counted? :)
Although, you can already feel what the result will be :)

The result is counted! You can play on TE or SoD!
Not a bad debut. It was simply a lack of experience playing in arena tournaments. If Tazar had resistance, his chances of fighting for 4th place would have been better. Or another level, and here is an expert water skill! That is, very little was missing.

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Emer-Gen;34580
I don't know about the clone. In the second improved save, I didn't develop it because there was no expert water skill. Instead, I excellently developed resurrection, meteor shower, but that's not the main thing - the main thing is an explosion of approximately 9000, which will immediately remove about 30 archangels, and just in case, due to protection from magic, summon about 210 earth elementals at a time. The army includes 43 black dragons, 36 archangels, and other various units.

The army is good. But the calculations were incorrect. Firstly, there may be resistance against the explosion, enhanced by boots! Also, there is a spell that protects against earth, reducing the explosion damage by half. This leaves a 60% chance of hitting, and the spell power at 50%.

Look at the arenas – all this is very clear!!!
In reply to natasha
19 years ago
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natasha;34594

Nprf solved the problem in a more original way – he chose a hero with tactics! Pred bet on resistance. In addition, the hero has the skill of intelligence, expert summoning of earth elementals, and resurrection.

Pred's arena – PALADIN. PALADIN admitted his defeat. His plan was – expert berserk + a sphere of vulnerability, which removes magic. Then, by wearing all the artifacts that increase speed, he would win due to the turn order.
But he couldn't find the sphere in the artifact collection…

Watch the arenas – it's all very clear!!!

Congratulations to Nprf!!!
Indeed, all genius is simple! :) :)
To take Mephala! Not only is he a warrior no worse than Tazar, but the Pathfinder class also levels up the fastest. And it's also easier to defeat dragons with tactics!
I was struggling, constantly running around with the main hero. And I didn't have enough money. But here you can explore the entire map, only taking Utopia with other heroes.

I looked at my arenas. Well, I agree with the results. Although initially, I meant that I would lose if Pred replenishes his mana.
But, alas, even here, I only have dragons left, and he has archangels, and they turn out to be stronger.
Yes, I underestimated my opponents. They have improved a lot in the game!
It's turning out to be a good tournament!!!
It's a pity the others were too afraid to play with us...
In reply to PALADIN
19 years ago
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PALADIN;34605
Congratulations, Nprf!!!
This is truly a case where the simplest solution is the best! :) :)
Take Mephala! Not only is he a warrior just as good as Tazar, but his Speedster class levels up faster than anyone else. And it's easier to defeat dragons with this tactic!
I struggled, constantly running back and forth with the main hero. And I didn't have enough money. But with this, you can explore the entire map, only taking Utopia with other heroes.


I also leveled up Lord Haart and Clavius to Expert Marauder. And that's about 50,000 gold!!!
Haart also became a Speedster.
Thanks to this, I was able to capture dwellings with them. And I sent Mephala to visit the blue dwelling. And Grindan, Jelar, Ain, Damacon, Kaitlin - they were all hired as soon as possible.
Besides that, I only built what was necessary. I didn't even build a guild with prayer!
The Marauders were indeed the ones taking Utopia, you guessed it!

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