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Yeah. If someone expresses an opinion that goes against the views of these godlike, unbelievably skilled players, they start a friendly bullying campaign, even if it's not directly related to what the person said, but mostly just something like "you should play first, and then talk..." It's not cool.
poimi (censored - Valentin), if they stop attracting players who appreciate the game not just as a game, but as a spiritual community of Heroes fans, because of such (censored-info) that they start spreading about Stinger, then they can safely go nowhere, leaving the respawn (censored....)brother. I'll stand up for Tyoma even in cases where he's not right. But you (censored - Valentin) probably won't understand that. I don't know how to convey my thought to you.
Kyiv, USSR Championship, way back in 1964, a game between Tal and Evgeny Vasyukov. "A very complex position was developing," Mikhail later recalled, "in which I was going to sacrifice a knight... Thoughts were piling up on each other... The infamous 'tree of variations,' from which coaches recommend pruning branch by branch, was growing at an incredible rate. And suddenly... I remembered the lines of Korney Chukovsky: 'Oh, it's not an easy job - to pull a hippopotamus out of the swamp.'
Tal seriously and for a long time pondered not the position on the board, but the task of Chukovsky, recalling everything he knew about jacks, levers, helicopters, and even a rope ladder for lifting two or three tons of living cargo. 'And after much deliberation,' he later laughed at himself, 'I couldn't find a single way to pull the hippopotamus out of the swamp and angrily thought: 'Well, let it sink!''
Only after that did Tal return to the board with his thoughts. He didn't refrain from sacrificing the knight, which promised an interesting game. The next day, all the newspapers wrote that Mikhail Tal, after forty minutes of careful consideration of the position, made an elegant, precisely calculated sacrifice...
:smile54: :smile20:
Kash, in reality, SergeyY's behavior and words in this thread should not have any impact on the situation in the tournament you are running, and even less should serve as a justification for the decision you made.
To everyone. I understand that everyone is outraged by SergeyY's words, but why are you all ganging up on a newbie? We all know who Stinger is, but he doesn't. Wouldn't it be easier to explain to him in a couple of words that Stinger is famous for more than just that raid on the Treasury with 16 elves? And to describe that situation in a little more detail. But instead, you're all ganging up on the guy... It's just not right.
Kash, in reality, SergeyY's behavior and words in this thread shouldn't have any impact on the situation in the tournament you're running, and even less should they serve as justification for the decision you made.
Of course not. It's just that Sergey exhausted me with pointless arguments, so I couldn't resist the opportunity to tease him. I apologize, it didn't turn out well. I won't do it again. We shouldn't bully the guy; he didn't do anything terrible. And it doesn't matter that people like that are bullied in real life, in school, on Instagram, in the army... But we won't. We'll be good guys.
Secondly, maybe Stinger is a god or demigod to you, or whatever... But I don't know him, and I have no intention of feeling any awe when I hear the word "Stinger."
But, in my opinion, shouldn't you respect the traditions and feelings of us, a significant part of the Heroes community? The traditions and feelings of those who learned by playing saves from the same Stinger or Forrest...
Regarding the topic (about how it's trivial to repeat the achievements of the pioneers):
"I have seen further because I was standing on the shoulders of giants." It's like in mathematics - if it's proven that a solution exists, then finding the solution itself is often easier...
P.S. This is all the downside of knowledge - with the advent of videos and walkthroughs, it has become much easier to grasp the basics of heroic mastery, but it also inevitably leads to the emergence of "nerdy fools," calculators, and rote learners - who, QUITE POSSIBLY, is the one who wrote that tactless, rather rude nonsense about Stinger.
P.P.S. I started writing this post as soon as I read the above-quoted text... after writing my post, I read this:
Message from SergeyY How many times have I played as the Dungeon in SoD with people, and NOT ONCE did I encounter a Dungeon player with 3 stacks of troglodytes. But with one stack, it happens more often than with two. That's why I got disappointed in both the Dungeon and SoD.
I laughed, realized the irrelevance of my pearls of wisdom before the pigs-provocateurs. But I didn't delete my many words, it's still a platform...
Стратегия - искусство возможного.
Первое правило форума : "Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно И не оспаривай глупца" (с)
Новичкам: ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО перечитайте ВЕСЬ первый пост по нижеприведенной ссылке и 90% ваших вопросов отпадут( на остальные 10% с удовольствием отвечу): Правила онлайн игр
It doesn't matter that people might bully them in real life, like at school, on Instagram, or in the army...
I wasn't in the army, but as far as I remember, no one bullied anyone at school (and I studied in at least 5 different schools) or on Instagram. Maybe those were just the wrong schools :)
But, in my opinion, shouldn't you respect the traditions and feelings of us, a significant part of the Heroes community?
Allow me to express my opinion. (I'm not nitpicking words, but I've wanted to say this many times in real life, but I doubt anyone would understand.) No one is obligated to respect anyone!!!!!! But everyone should treat others with respect, even if they don't respect them. I've always been quietly annoyed by phrases like "Do you respect me?", "You have to respect your elders," "He should respect [someone]," and so on. Respect is a feeling, and how can you be obligated to feel it? How can you force someone to feel respect for someone else? How can you demand it? I especially hate it when someone asks someone else, "Do you respect me or not?" What if they don't... And then the person asking is provoking their interlocutor to either lie or hurt themselves. Who would be happy to learn that they are not respected? Maybe someone should be obligated to love someone else?! But everyone should, of course, treat each other with respect.
Всё не так плохо как Вы думаете. Всё намного хуже!
Of course not. It's just that Sergey annoyed me so much with his pointless argument that I couldn't resist making a jab at him. I apologize, it didn't come out very well :) I won't do it again. We shouldn't put down the guy, he didn't do anything that bad. And it doesn't matter that people like him are often bullied in real life, in school, on Instagram, in the army... But we won't do that. We'll be good guys.
What prompted the return of the avatar? This one is actually funnier.
Hermit
Allow me to share my opinion. (I'm not nitpicking words, but I've wanted to say this many times in real life, but I doubt anyone would understand.) No one should respect anyone!!!!!! But everyone should treat others with respect, even if they don't respect them. I've always been annoyed by phrases like "Do you respect me?", "You have to respect your elders," "He should respect..." and so on. Respect is a feeling, and how can you be obligated to feel it? How can you force someone to feel respect for someone else? How can you demand it? I especially hate it when someone asks someone else, "Do you respect me or not?". What if they don't... And then the person asking is provoking the other person to either lie or hurt their feelings. Who would want to know that they are not respected? Maybe someone should be obligated to love someone else?! But everyone should treat each other with respect.
In principle, that's right. But the people around you aren't telepaths, they can't see what's in your head or how you feel, so for them, respectful behavior and respect are practically indistinguishable, and that's where the confusion comes from. And you don't have to treat those who bother you with such questions with respect. Catch
:smile54: :smile20: ... To everyone. I understand that everyone is outraged by SergeyY's words, but why are you all ganging up on the newbie? We all know who Stinger is, but he doesn't. Wouldn't it be easier to explain to him in a few words that Stinger is famous for more than just that raid on the Treasury with 16 elves? And to describe that situation in a little more detail. But instead, you're all ganging up on the guy... It's just not right.
Well, we'll see how you react to a newbie who writes something similar about Lion Star :)
I wasn't in the army, but as far as I remember, no one was bullied at school (I probably studied there for at least 5 years) or in college. They must have been the wrong schools :)
Those were the right schools, you were lucky (maybe that's why you're unlucky now in Dragon Utopia =)) But in our dying villages, people have become some kind of bitter.. it's just crazy. Those kinds of Sergeys are cured of their delusions quickly, no offense intended. I wasn't in the army, only heard about it. But I saw all sorts of things in schools, especially during my time working there :)PReDS
What caused the return of the avatar? This one, by the way, is cooler.
The same thing as with Tanya. They forced me. This one is indeed cuter. The other one looks more like me :D
But everyone MUST treat other people with respect, even if they don't respect them.
Yes. That's what I meant. That is (taking into account the correction by Hermit):
But, IMHO, do you HAVE to treat traditions and the feelings of us, a significant part of the Heroes community, with respect?
Thank you for the comment.
Стратегия - искусство возможного.
Первое правило форума : "Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно И не оспаривай глупца" (с)
Новичкам: ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО перечитайте ВЕСЬ первый пост по нижеприведенной ссылке и 90% ваших вопросов отпадут( на остальные 10% с удовольствием отвечу): Правила онлайн игр
I don't just treat everyone with respect; I genuinely respect everyone. Because I respect intelligent people, and I always will. But no one will ever convince me that "if a person doesn't know what's in a treasure and goes there with 16 Grand Elves, then they either acted incredibly STUPIDLY, or they probably knew exactly what they were getting into, perhaps by using a map hack."
This statement is an absolute truth. And most importantly, everyone, even those who love to spread nonsense on the forum, KNOWS that I'm right. Because you yourselves wouldn't do that if you were truly strong players.
When I told Forrest what I meant – about a person who DOESN'T KNOW (hasn't revealed that location on the map) what's in the treasure – Forrest replied that "he thought it should be clear that a strong player wouldn't go into a treasure with such an army without knowing what's there, i.e., without first revealing the map." So, Forrest HIMSELF indirectly agrees with MY statement when I said I meant a person who hasn't revealed the treasure and is going there with 16 Elves! (And I simply understood the previous message as meaning that the person supposedly didn't know what was there, went in with Elves, and then found something great.)
But it's surprising to see how the topic then shifts to a completely different plane, starting with accusations of disrespect towards Stinger (and I still don't understand what he has to do with it), and soon it will escalate to accusations of disrespect towards the President of North Korea, Kim Jong-il.
Keep it up, comrades. Your logic is simply amazing!
"if a person, NOT SEEING what is in the treasure zone, went in there with 16 grand elves — then he acted either absolutely STUPIDLY, or he probably did know what exactly he was going in there for. For example, by using maphack. "
When I told Forrest what was meant — about a person who DOES NOT KNOW (has not revealed that spot on the map) what is in the treasure zone, Forrest replies that "he thought it should be obvious to me that a strong player would not go into a treasure zone with such an army WITHOUT KNOWING what is there, i.e., without first uncovering the map." That is, Forrest HIMSELF indirectly agrees WITH MY OWN statement, when I said I meant a person who has not revealed the treasure zone and goes there with 16 elves! (And I simply understood that previous message as meaning the person supposedly did not know what was there, went in with elves, and then got such a lucky break.)
You are either a noob in Heroes or not very smart.
To find out what is in the treasure zone you don't need to reveal the map with maphack; you can simply break through the guard and send a scout there
Let me list you reasons to go into the treasure zone on week 1. 1) Treasure zones vary — if you have mass slows (for example) and 16 grand elves + 50 centaurs, 5 pegasi, and 3 dendroids, you can work wonders.
2) Kyrre at stables (or with boots) with a supply of movement manages everything and goes into the treasure zone so that later they can ferry the treasury to him on day 121, starting to gobble everything up without losing tempo. (while waiting for this, he can take some things even with such forces)
3) Simply having many heroes and, while waiting for growth, scouting everything personally if there are no issues with building.
Does this seem stupid to you? Then go play against computers and build Titans with a Capitol. IMHO.
In short, SergeyY "teach your wife to cook cabbage soup" rather than lecturing us here on HeroesWorld on how to play Heroes III online!
РП (Реальное папство!) *Автосейвы не беру и не даю.
In my opinion, the "Tribuna" (it would be more appropriate to call it "Bazaar Square") doesn't offer anything but pointless arguments. What's the point of creating a section that isn't aimed at constructive discussion, but simply at arguing and measuring egos? In my opinion, if there's a dispute, it should be resolved in ICQ or in a private message. In a general discussion, it turns into what we're seeing now – i.e., nonsense, personal attacks, where everyone tries to get the last word in, just to shut down the other person. I don't understand why and who this is needed for.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.