Forum — Tournament Committee

PReDS

16 years ago

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Wlk777

For about the 118th time I’m saying — when there’s essentially nothing left to say, they move on to assessing the opponent’s mental abilities — it’s very convenient :) . And as for me, I’ll say I’m already tired of your examples from Jebus Cross and TE-Full, Oh what a wonder — Titans on 121 — I played on Jebus Cross — just mindless collecting of scattered resources and gold all over the respawn. Alright, keep showing off to newbies with unreal fights like 16 Grand Elves with Teleport against 100 Wood Golems :D

1. Well, firstly: "there’s no more intelligence left" and "little intelligence" are completely different things.
2. Only a person who has never laid eyes on TE can assume that a level 3 Griffin Conservatory was broken in a 112 dungeon in TE rather than SoD, because there are no native heroes in the right tavern slot, the stacks of the Miner are nerfed, and a hundred Troglodytes from the start is already good. Well, people who know nothing about things love to discuss them, .....
3. Let me remind you of the capture of one Griffin Conservatory by Alex in an online tournament game already on this resource — in the qualifier /topic/6258/. The report exactly listed the troops, Monere’s parameters, the territory type — they wrote all sorts of things there: that the stats were over 20, and that it was in TE and the army was leveled (Phoenix on the second week :D), you, by the way, also distinguished yourself. Then Alex described the battle tactics and whoever didn’t break that Griffin Conservatory — immediately it became simple for everyone. From this one example, conclusions can be drawn about the real skill ratio between you and Alex. It’s up to you, you can continue to justify all your losses with bad luck, and your opponents’ wins with being overpowered. Stinger will still remain Stinger, Alex will remain Alex, and you — a fairly average player.

Wlk777

16 years ago

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The part about the constant dungeon and TE was funny. Since when in TE does creature experience allow a hundred troglodytes to be stronger than 150 in SoD? Besides, in TE, no one cancelled out troglodyte caches and the summoning portal. Regarding that constant Alex took, I said it's unrealistic unless you have attack/defense stats of 10/10; with Exp. Offense, it was roughly like that. As for the skill—fine, forget about the skill—just don't make me laugh with unthinkable feats like breaking through N number of dentroids with 16 grands and a wagon, and other pseudo-unthinkable feats which, upon closer inspection, turn out to be well within the capabilities of any average player.

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Finding a target that can be defeated with 16 Grand units is incredibly lucky, no matter how you look at it. By the way, judging by the story, there was more than just a Teapot there, as the stats were 20 on 121.

Indeed, if someone went into the Treasury with 16 Grand units and, most importantly, FOUND TARGETS that could be defeated with them, and also found Teapots, then vague doubts begin to creep in... Most likely, he simply looked at the map in the editor or opened the save file, and there's nothing particularly clever about it! :)

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Indeed, if someone explored a dungeon with 16 grand units and, most importantly, FOUND TARGETS for them, and then beginners start to have vague doubts... Most likely, he simply looked at the map in the editor or opened the save file, and there's nothing complicated about it! :)

It's not right to make such accusations. Maybe we're wrong, and he scouted this dungeon beforehand.

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Wicc

16 years ago

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Wlk777

The part about the Con dungeon and TE made me laugh. Since when does creature experience exist in TE, and can a hundred troglodytes be stronger than 150 in SoD?

It seems like the role of the clown not only suits you but you actually enjoy it :).

What on earth is "creature experience" in 112?

When TE was being developed, the first thing they did was nerf imba heroes like the Miner. Therefore, in TE, the dungeon is a mid-tier Castle. Yes, it can take a mini-con on 111, but many other Castles can do that too; for the Miner, it's just slightly more convenient in terms of technique and losses.

SergeyY

16 years ago

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and he scouted that resource node beforehand.

Resource nodes are usually blocked by strong units, and scouting them usually happens simultaneously with breaking through the defenses. I'm not accusing anyone, I'm just saying that "it's quite possible."

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first they cut down overpowered heroes like the Miner.

I haven't played The Eastern Era, but I've heard that 3 stacks always appear. And in SoD, the Miner might only get 1 stack. So, a nerfed Miner is more common in SoD.

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Wicc

It seems the role of a clown not only suits you, but you actually like it :).
What the hell is creature experience at 112?

Watch your mouth ;) . You can definitely gain plenty of experience by 112. Not up to rank 10, of course, but still stronger than troglodytes in SoD.

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Wicc

So, you're an expert on map templates? Which template (not from the obscure ones) makes it the hardest to find each other on the map? I'd like to play until the Titans stage, but by the time I build everything, someone always shows up and ruins the final battle. (This happens on the CM and even 8mm6 templates).

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Forrest

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Indeed, if someone delves into a treasure with 16 grand units and, most importantly, finds targets for them, and then doubts start to creep in... Most likely, he simply looked at the map in the editor or opened the save file, and there's nothing particularly clever about it! :)

Bingo!!!

For such words, 90% of Heroes players would punch you in the face in real life. Do you even know who Stinger is?

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Samurai

16 years ago

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VLK seems to be thrashing around in powerless rage because many don't consider him a strong hero player; Forrest's predictions placed him exactly where he belongs IMHO, and he didn't make it into the HeroesWorld all-star team by vote either, so now he's straining himself with all sorts of nonsense.
SergeyY, I have a few questions for you:
1) On what day do you usually build the Capitol?
2) Have you ever killed all the computer players on a map?
3) What is your best rank when completing a map? Have you ever reached the "Bone Dragon" level?

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Forrest

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Which map template (not one of the obscure ones) makes it the most difficult to find each other on the map? I would like to play until the Titans stage, but by the time I build up, they always arrive and it's the final battle. (this happens on CM and even 8mm6).

Take a look at Blockbuster and Jebus Cross. With the latter, Titans will definitely appear on day 122. With some skill, of course.

StickyFingaz

16 years ago

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http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=32304
something like Jebus, but with a longer game duration.

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Forrest
You need to keep an eye on (censorship through conversation). I'm saying it again, and no one will convince me otherwise. IF a player goes into a treasure chest WITHOUT knowing what's inside, with 16 gold, and then it turns out that a +6 all stats teapot is hidden there, waiting for him, then I think it's QUITE POSSIBLE that he looked at the map editor. Because, simply put, people don't just go into treasure chests with 16 gold in other cases. If he did this in every game and took something, that's a different story. If he had already explored the treasure chest before, that's a different story. I'm talking about the case when HE DIDN'T KNOW what was in the treasure chest!

Have you ever killed all the computer players on a map?

Very funny. When I play against the computer on a random map, I usually open the random map in the editor at the very beginning of the game and give all of them 40,40,40,40 stats. Not to myself, but to all the computer players. Then I load the game from it and start playing. It's more interesting that way, but I still always beat them all.

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OUTLAW

16 years ago

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Samurai

It seems like WLC is fighting out of helpless anger because many don't consider him a strong player. In Forrest's predictions, he was placed in the right spot, IMO, and he also didn't make it into the HW team through voting, so he's trying to prove himself here with all sorts of nonsense.
SergeyY, I have a few questions for you:
1) On what day do you usually build the Capitol?
2) Have you ever killed all the computer players on a map?
3) What's your best rank when completing a map? Have you ever reached the "bone dragon" level?

:smile52: Samurai is on fire!! :smile52:

Wlk777

16 years ago

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The Samurai, as always, is unaware of some events but loves to troll. For example, I refused to play in the interportal competition myself. So, most likely, it didn't pass the voting either. But a Chukchi doesn't read, a Chukchi writes.

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