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PReDS

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Cons on the 1st week, if you try to get 3-4 angels at once (and there are no minimum requirements), don't work. (We don't count extremely easy-to-get cards).

I DON'T BELIEVE IT. Show me the saves! And describe the battle. :)

As far as I remember, Forrest took the first mine with a Miner, without any minimum requirements. I don't have the saves, but this battle was discussed in detail on the forum.

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Сатир

16 years ago

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PReDS

As far as I remember, Forrest took the third place, playing as a Miner on the first map, without meeting the minimum requirements. I don't have the save file, but this match was discussed in detail on a forum.

I became curious and searched, but couldn't find the information. Could you clarify where exactly on the forum it was discussed?

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Дубровин Павел

16 years ago

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It seems that Dragon Utopia on the first week is in TE-Full, or were they in SoD as well?

Dirty_Player

16 years ago

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Wlk777

I think there's nothing too complicated there—troglodytes well over 150 + expert offense = 600-700 damage. 2 side stacks die in the first 2 rounds, and the other three are spread to different corners and taken out one by one.

160 infernal troglodytes + expert offense + 6 attack + underground battle = 240-720 damage per griffon. Without blessing it might be dangerous... you could leave many trogs because of unfinished stacks.

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Дубровин Павел

It seems that Utopias in the first week are in TE-Full, or were they in SoD too?

I think Stinger took them specifically in SoD... correct me if I'm wrong.

Forrest

16 years ago

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Konsa 3-ка on 112 in the online game with Vikeroy (now Vigo)
I leveled up a bit over two days and finally reached 112. There were Adele and Alamar.
I bought a book, copied a spell. They died with almost no losses.

Artem (Stinger) took the Utopia on the first turn in the game for money, against a Bishop, it seems, according to Chaos rules (starting with 2500). I don't believe that everyone could do that.
Stinger performed such wonders against neutrals, it was just incredible.
In his first training game on Jebus, he took three Utopias on the first turn and moved to the center on 117. Try to repeat that, gentlemen))

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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Forrest

Griffin Conservatory 3 on 112 in an online game with Vikeroi (now Vigo)
I trained a little over two days and at the end of 112 I went for it. There was Adele and Alamar.
Bought the book, drew out the Bless. They died almost without losses.

Regarding Bless, I was right, I think there were almost 200 Troglodytes =).

Forrest

Singer generally pulls off such wonders against neutrals, it's just insane.
In his first training game on Jebus Cross, he took three Dragon Utopias on the first day and reached the center on 117. Repeat that, gentlemen))

For that, you need at least those 3 Dragon Utopias to exist :) . Plus several fat hives with conservatories. Not everyone can do that, of course, but I don't think it's that insanely difficult :)

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PReDS

16 years ago

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Wlk777

For this, you need at least those 3 Dragon Utopia to be there :) . And a few fat hives with preserves. Not everyone can do it, of course, but I don't think it's actually that hellishly difficult :)

First try playing at least one game by Chaos rules, and then say what you think.

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Forrest

16 years ago

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Since we're already reminiscing...
Once, STinger visited the Old Man on map 121 with a small army. The Old Man saw an army consisting of a group of Grand Mages and a few Centaurs, plus a couple of Knights with Dwarves. He used Chain Lightning, took Nagabanka, Ululchis, and a Naga, and happily attacked with Angels and the rest of his army from the Tower!). There wasn't a second Tavy. And Themych had stats like 20-20-13-10. STinger arrived through the Treasury, having eaten that All 6 artifact and a couple more along the way. (16 Grand Mages were brought in, along with about a hundred Dryads and a box of items.) In such situations, the most difficult thing is to decide to do it and believe that it will succeed, and instead of a victory, there won't be a simple defeat.
The Old Man himself once faced a rush at the beginning of map two. 200 Trolls and a couple of Angels came to him. So he built Giants and, on turn 122, upgraded and attacked with a Titan and the rest of his army, and won))). There were turns that lasted 40 minutes, with Chain Lightning being cast by 9 heroes. Don't tell me it's easy, and I won't tell you where to go :)

PReDS

16 years ago

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Wlk777

For heaven's sake, stop pushing this nonsense, or else it's unclear that all of this is on Jebus and most likely with experience =).

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Scare the newbies with such feats :D. Because any of your miracles—dig a little deeper, let's say you captured a Griffin Conservatory on a tier-3 on the first week—it'll turn out there are a ton of Troglodytes with Bless, and I think there's nothing unrealistic about the rest =).

Your wits haven't sharpened, but at least you've started choosing your words more carefully—that's something.;)

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Wlk777

16 years ago

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PReDS

I haven't gotten any smarter, but at least I'm choosing my expressions more carefully, and that's something.;)

For about the 118th time I say—when there's nothing left to say on the substance, they move on to assessing the opponent's mental abilities—it's very convenient :) . And I'll also say, I'm already tired of your examples from Jebus Cross and TE-full, "Oh, what a miracle—titans on day 121—I played Jebus Cross—some kind of mindless gathering of resources and gold scattered all over the respawn." Alright, keep showing off in front of newbies with your unrealistic fights like 16 Grand Elves with a War Machine against 100 Scarecrows :D

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Guys! Does anyone have a save from turn 111, after which Stinger or some other player leveled up a hero to 20, 20, 20, 20 within a week, got Utopia on week 1, etc.? I don't need the saves themselves; just give me a save from turn 111 of SoD, AFTER which this was done. And tell me what task was set for you – for example, to get a specific Utopia or artifact. I'll do the same. I'll only start after February 17th, when I finish my current offline tournament. Then it will become clear whether only experienced players can do what you're talking about, or if it's just a very easy map.

Avern

16 years ago

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Perhaps we should start with the maximum number of Crypts?

SergeyY

16 years ago

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Maybe we should start with the highest-level dungeons?

Give me the save file! I can easily handle the highest-level dungeons. I think I accidentally twitched my finger or something during a game with Rimpel, and I randomly pressed a button while looking at the spellbook, and I cast Death Wave on all my units in the highest-level dungeon, which is comparable to 7 Magic Arrows aimed at my own troops. That's why I lost my troops at the beginning of the game. So, please don't remind me about the highest-level dungeons.

Marazhan also mentioned that he lost a game because of a single accidental button press.

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Forrest

16 years ago

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Wlk777

For roughly the 118th time I'm saying — when there's nothing left to say about the substance, they switch to assessing the opponent's mental abilities, which is very convenient :) . And as for me, I'm already tired of your examples from Jebus Cross and TE-Full, Oh what a miracle — Titans on 121 — I played Jebus Cross — some stupid gathering of resources and gold scattered all over the respawn. Alright, keep showing off in front of newbies with unreal battles like 16 Grands with a cart against 100 Pinocchios :D

Read carefully. Titans on SMK (SoD). Everything about Stinger-SoD. Why blatantly twist it?
The person asked about the Griffin Conservatory — I answered as it was.
You add nothing of your own except criticism.)

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Lider1

16 years ago

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SergeyY

Guys! Does anyone have a save from turn 111, after which Stinger or some other hero leveled up a hero to 20, 20, 20, 20 within a week, got Utopia on the 1st week, etc.?

And I will do the same.

The thing is, this needs to be done without reloading. Which is several orders of magnitude more difficult...