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numOne (blue, Swamp, Wystan, Kirr) def Medium (red, Castle, Valeska, Alkin), 2sm4d(3), 127

Got a decent respawn and the only (but native) secondary skill, lizards built. On the first day, I broke several crypts, and the tier 1s are farming strongly in the nooks and crannies to carry out the plan - hydras in the castle. 3 Griffin Conservatories scouted, Kirr with Earth Magic and Offense. Hydras are built.
On the second day, I bring in hydras and lizards, claim the shield +5 from golems, clear a Griffin Conservatory (level 2), break into the capitol, and buy a spell book. 2 more Griffin Conservatories (level 3+3), by the start of week 2 a plan is brewing to take on the GO (Phoenixes), and I was just given Tactics - perfect. On day 125, GO fell, with the loss of basilisks and gnolls, no Expert Scouting, so I'm running blind. Didn't reach the capitol, only killed an enemy tier 1 along the way. On his turn, Alkin breaks into the capitol, Val takes out a Naga Bank along the way. I pull back a bit to get into position. On day 127, Septienna reveals a View of Earth spell - I see Alkin in the castle with Efreeti, plenty of resources in the town - I decide to attack. I attacked:
Kirr (7 13 7 5)
8 Angels, 35 Greater Lizards, 3 Hydras, 15 Greater Gogs.
Alkin (4 7 2 4) 40 Marksmen, 5 Cavaliers, 9 Efreeti, 8 Swordsmen, 30 Pikemen, 5 Griffins.
With Tactics, I fly in, hit the Efreeti, and block the Marksmen. The opponent has Mass Slow, but it doesn't save them anymore - the Angels cut everyone down.

Thanks for the game!

I don't think there's a word about utopia here.

Yes. I watched it too, but didn't see even a hint of it. Romich probably mixed up the link :D[/QUOTE]

He didn't mix it up:)

numOne (blue, swamp, Wystan, Kyrre) def Medium (red, castle, Valessa, Alkin), 2sm4d(3), 127

Got a decent respawn and the only secondary (but native), lizards built. On the first day I cleared several crypts, scouts are actively hitting back in the back alleys to pull off the plan - hydras in the castle. 3 Griffin Conservatories scouted, Wystan with Earth and Offense. Hydras came in.
On the second day I bring hydras and lizards, take the +5 shield from golems, clear a Griffin Conservatory (2), break into the capital, buy a book. Another 2 Griffin Conservatories (3+3), at the start of week 2 a plan to hit ГО (Phoenixes) is brewing, just got Tactics - great. ГО fell on day 125, with the loss of basilisks and gnolls, no Expert View Earth, so I ran blind. Didn't reach the capital, only killed an enemy scout along the way. On my turn Alkin breaks into the capital, Val pops a Naga Bank on the way. I retreat a little to spot. On day 127 Septienna reveals View - I see Alkin in the castle on Efreeti, a fortune in the town - I decide to attack. Attacked:
Kyrre (7 13 7 5)
8 Angels, 35 Greater Lizards, 3 Hydras, 15 Greater Waspworms.
Alkin (4 7 2 4) 40 Manticores, 5 Unicorns, 9 Efreeti, 8 Swordsmen, 30 Pikemen, 5 Genies.
I fly in with Tactics, hit the Efreeti and block the Manticores. Enemy has Mass Slow, but it's no longer saving them - the Angels killed everyone.

Thanks for the game!

Found one Griffin Conservatory on the edge of the barb secondary in the middle of the second week, but to reach it I'd have to drop everything and chain Val and Alkin, decided it was better to take the third secondary and gather gold for Angels. In principle things weren't going that badly, by the third I'd have a decent army, but then Kyrre showed up with devils, there was nothing to kill 8 Angels with.
Thanks for the game.

P.S. A strange thing happened at the end. Before the attack Alkin was staying in an external garrison with 5+4 Efreeti, inside were 6 stacks including 3 Monks. During the attack the Efreeti remained 5+4, and the Monks disappeared. I tested it after the game - Monks consistently disappear if you split a stack in the external garrison. Sometimes, for example, if staying with 5 single Unicorns, Griffins also disappear, and the Unicorns become 3+1+1. Mysticism overall.

numOne! Congratulations on the victory!:smile20:

I heavily moderated the second post in this topic(with Wicc's permission).
I put the draw and current results there. I might also create a table later... Or maybe not...

and the monks disappeared. I tested it again after the game - the monks consistently disappear if you split the stack in an external garrison. Sometimes, if, for example, you camp with 5 units of horses, the griffins also disappear, and the horses become 3+1+1. It's a mystery.

Based on my observations, the weakest stack disappears. In your example, the griffins and monks are clearly weaker than 1 horse, so they disappeared during the battle (logically, if the battle is won, they should return; this needs to be tested). It remains to be assumed that if you had split the efreets into 3+3+3 and the horses into 3+2, the "pokemon" would have disappeared as well.

P.S. Something strange happened at the end. Before the attack, Alkin spent the night in the outer garrison with 5+4 efreets, and in the inner garrison, there were 6 stacks, including 3 monks. During the attack, the efreets remained at 5+4, but the monks disappeared. I tested it again after the game – the monks consistently disappear if you split the stack in the outer garrison. Sometimes, if, for example, you spend the night with 5 single-unit knights, the griffins also disappear, and the knights become 3+1+1. It's a mystery.

Explain, please, to a newbie:confused: why is it necessary to split the attack stack into... x... Well, it's clear if you need to eliminate archers. But here, it was obvious that the angels would move first and block the archers....

Please explain to a newbie:confused: why divide the attack stack by... x... I understand if you block the archers. But here it was clear that the angels would go first and block the archers....

I didn't intend to divide anyone; the efreets remained divided after the previous battle, and I thought they would merge on their own. I was sure that stacks only disappear when there are more than 7 types of monsters, i.e., even with a complete merging of stacks, there isn't enough space for everyone.
I tested it again and confirmed the existence of another criterion for merging (besides the stack strength) - location. If you spend the night outside with seven single efreets and leave seven single spearmen inside, the spearmen will disappear, and in battle, there will be 7 single efreets. However, if you simply switch the armies' positions for the night, i.e., the efreets inside and the hero with the single spearmen outside, the result is completely different - no one disappears, 7 efreets become one stack, and the spearmen become 2+1+1...

Forrest (Sylvan, Crimson Bog, Brokhild) def StickyFingaz (Necropolis, Galtaran) 146 8mm6a

If a hero's army is being mixed with the units inside a garrison, then identical stacks within the garrison will always be merged. As for which units to take into battle and which to leave behind, the computer decides based on the unit's strength. It seems to work that way.

Forrest (red swamp Brohild) def StickyFingaz (necro Galtran) 146 8mm6a

A slightly more detailed report :)

Forrest (red swamp Brohild) def StickyFingaz (necro Galtran) 146 8mm6a

Bought selection for 1300 and color for 650.
The opponent took 3 restarts, I took two.
Immediately take max crypt then another with 5 vamps - a normal start. 8 heroes at 113.
But the exit from respawn is only after 3 days. Broh was given speedy log explorer and earth. Didn't go for the computer, because too much time was already lost. I take the center village. There is a Dragon Utopia and a tree. + consa for 40 mins grade.
At 117 I find an external dwelling of cows at the respawn. Thought for a long time how to take it. Returned army and artifacts via 6 heroes. Fired one and bought Lora who, with 1760 mp, solved it by reaching through 3 blocks to the cow external dwelling. Put cows in the Castle and 1000. Money is fine. At 121 I run as Broh to scout 3 promising passages. And Tazar takes the naga bank and medusa den - there's a full buyout with grade cows. At 122 everything passes to Broh, who breaks through into three passages. There he finds a tree for 15 ephrams which they wiped out but took the 6th tree. Crashed from there to the central village where there is a 4th tree. Luckily ran into the center village as a fluke. From there another tree and Dragon Utopia are close. I kill minors, the giant external dwelling, and consa 2 myself. Gosha appeared here by the village. He blocked it so that I cannot crash back in(. And went to the tree and Dragon Utopia. At 131 I take my Dragon Utopia. There all 5 and armor. And I push maximum towards that Dragon Utopia hoping that Gosha doesn't notice it.
He takes the tree and disappears into the darkness. I settle the village, so I will take the Dragon Utopia on the next turn. Tazar with a giant kills the mage on trogs and eyes. But Gosha, to the surprise of all viewers (3 people were watching the stream), carries away the power and his computer drives him off.
Broh takes the 2nd Dragon Utopia: watchman's shield and dragon cap. I run to Gosha with expert log advanced explorer and speedy. 10-31-22-12. Gosha had somehow already become 28-21-15-14. But then Gosha attacks himself with 7 mana. Applies power hit run and leaves for money with 2 angels and 200+ skels (wiping 13 lizards and 8 cows. I already have 4 Castles and found the orange swamp. I run away just in case from the main necro in case they attack with mana. In magic I only have bolt 500. I take the computer at 137 with huge losses to Lora. A leveled-up Gervulf was entrenched there with a big power (20 flies, 70 gnolls grade, 35 lizards, 8 geese, 3 cows - almost all max level). But I managed to get boots from there. So I had to take the Castle for the buyout. I lose 30 lizards, all Vasya's, a few cows and geese. Time is running out. And Broh skips a turn with 3200 mp( But Galtran doesn't touch him on the next turn. Broh was on 3 flies.
Valka also at 137 finds a piece of Dragon Utopia from obza on an adjacent square and scouts it. Broh pushes there. Takes it: book of water and earth. I jump, take the max one and the 6th tree too. With boots and expert, Broh is unstoppable. I've already accumulated 40+ geese and impla 3000+ (only need to pick up reinforcements by the village. The opponent, seeing DD and the army, surrenders.
Thanks for the game!

Samurai (red swamp Broghild) def Javdet (blue, barb, Tiras) 144 8mm6a 1-0

A frustrating defeat; the layout was one of those that is more than playable, but the opponent only needed to execute their plan and not throw it away.
Bought Taras for 2600, received 1100 for color. The money paid off quickly, and by the end of the week, there were too many heroes to manage. At home: bears in the Stronghold, 2 naga birds and 1 bear painted. Dragon Utopia :))

From the 2nd week, consa is 3; Taras runs for the exit, while the losers are still dragging along the chain toward the Hive. Hive is maxed; meanwhile, Tarasik is thinking where to go and happens to hit a naga bank 3. Checked the 2nd of 3 passages—to the village. The direction to the opponent is clear—I'm heading for a visit without touching the likely passage to my own camp on the snow so as not to break the chains. But it turned out to be veeeery far. By the end of the week, I reached the village, bought a book, upgraded GM until getting mass haste, and headed home to take the Dragon Utopia.

131 I break the Dragon Utopia—2 swords and a necklace for +3 spell/knowledge. Sour(((. Brogh, meanwhile, catches control in his own same Dragon Utopia. Crashed back into that same village, and now with dreamed-of bears, I go visiting again. When I arrived, I didn't understand anything at all—Samurai's camp is running things there :eek: . Brogh jumps out of the darkness and takes my Castle, and there was quite a bit of uncollected growth(((.

Throughout the game, I couldn't pump scouting, even though I had nava and pasfight.. I took too many skills, but they were all very necessary... Further, there was hope to find something tasty in the direction where the swamp-dwellers hadn't prowled yet; got excited about a Dragon Utopia—but there was just another saber, a helmet for 12, and a fire book. I spot another Dragon Utopia and think I'm running toward it—but no—a dead end and boots with a prison. Since I ended up there, I take the boots, but I almost lacked enough move points to portal. I free the prisoner; one turn back Brogh was at the opposite end of the map, so I give away the army so they can take the Throng consa on the next turn. I didn't even split 2 angels, but that wouldn't have solved anything—further on, Brogh has a tasty treasure zone accessible only via DD. I was stunned when they attacked me, but it was for the best....
In short, all game I looked for a meeting and found ГГ:)
On this map, probably the only chance to get a grip is not to rush, but to kill your own camp and build up GM. If I'd known the hand, I'd be living in Sochi)).

Thanks for the game.

P.S. Looked at the saves; there was indeed a moment when I could have intercepted the swamp-dwellers, but for that, you'd either need to push non-standardly across the road or know that there is that decisive Dragon Utopia with the hat and water book)))

AlexTheGreat(red,Castle,Valexa,Valexa) def Mizrael(blue,Fortress,Bron,Gunnar), 2sm4d(3),137

Cross-resource.

We agreed to play best of 3. Game 1:
Spread out, roads are very long. But in the end on 117 at the Rampart stables Vala with 28 marks. 2 cavalry with 9 archers from the dwelling, 3 elves and 4 swordsmen take crypts along the other road towards the secondary grass other. Result: at home Cavalry in Citadel, in Rampart elves with dendroids in Fort, tons of money! No conservatories, no hives... Opp has Gunnar, dwelling cows, secondary swamp... I think, it's over... But it turned out not so bad... Gunnar in the middle of the week rushed to Rampart to his death with some trash from a pack of cows and a tray of lizards, but I didn't make it in time on 123 to transfer everything to Vala, Gunnar was stalling, only arrived on 124, I decided to go into my Treasury, figured that with the slag I saw at Misha's, he wouldn't have much to do there in the Treasury!.. But still Gunya runs into the Treasury. Vala before the Treasury for 13 champions 10K exp. Already has expert Tactics, advanced Offense, Wisdom. Army - 14 Grands, 64 marks, 5 champions (upgraded in Castle). Behind, a scout hero has 50 pokemons and 20 dwarves. In the Treasury by 127 I get in 2 boxes from the trays sixth-level 50 demons, 25 dogs, take the gold mine, naga bank. Also got a SPEED RING - +3 to speed. Lots of money, build Citadel with pegasi in Rampart, home monks and Castle. Advanced Logistics already. 131. kill another naga bank for a pack of hydras. Given Earth Magic. Next there are 2 Pandora's Boxes, one for a pack of Green, the other for Several Black. Build a chain from home. Bring on 132 marks, cavalry, dwarves and pokemons, kill almost without losses 19 Green - there 15K exp. Expert Logistics and Advanced Earth Magic given. Next fall 6 Black - there's all Earth Magic, true without Summoning and Implosion. I TP home immediately to refill mana. On 134 I kill 92 Cyclops (ГО) without losses thanks to Resurrection, sit in the opponent's swamp. On 135 at Misha's respawn a triple Dragon Utopia fell almost without losses. By 137 Misha decided not to drag it out against the stats, power, КЗ and surrendered!.. Thanks for the game!

We agreed to 2 wins
1 game
Volland (blue, swamp, Tazar, Alkin) def Mizrael (red, castle, Valeska. Terek), cmka, 216
Week 1 - normal gold, but one road leads to the Griffin Conservatory, the other to the underground, placed 1-6 in the citadel, market, and on day 7 upgraded the lizards, took external dwellings of gnolls, bulls, and lizards, broke into the underground, but immediately blocked by gargoyles in the third area, far off-road freed a hero and broke through to the necromancer respawn, where by the end of the week a scrub saw Terek, in the necro secondary. Tazar got scouting, and Alkin got earth magic.
Week 2 - on the first day from the other side, off-road broke through to another necro respawn, where the opponent arrived on the first week, but ran into a sniper block, sent Tazar with scouting into the third area, and Alkin went into the underground to collect Inferno, there were no Conservatories or Hives on the respawn, the third area revealed a Griffin Conservatory, Alkin buys a spell book in the secondary, takes a Naga Bank with 4 Nagas with heavy losses, a chain formed to take another Naga Bank in the swamp with Tazar, but there is too little meat, I don't build a capitol - upgrade the bulls
Week 3 - Tazar takes a Naga Bank with 3 Nagas in the swamp, troops are transferred to Alkin, who leveled up Earth Magic, but his spellpower is only 1, he takes about 6 Vivi, a third-tier Conservatory behind a hundred upgraded Goats and a Pandora's Box of 20 Minotaurs behind a hundred Wasps. Troops are transferred via chain to Tazar, who approached another third area and together with the freed Shagti and other scrubs took a Pandora's Box of 20 Liches, collected Wyrms up to 34, Sphere of Earth, a Pandora's Box of a lot of gold, and Alkin was already approaching the revealed Dragon Utopia, with a capitol in the capital
Week 4 on the first day troops are brought in, scrubs take another Pandora's Box of 20 Vampires, Shagti takes from a group of Green Dragons the Necklace of Morale and Luck and a Cloak +2+2 Magic-Knowledge, everything is transferred to Alkin and he takes the Dragon Utopia with a Level 5 spell book and a Necklace +3+3, Tazar stands at the metro to the necro respawn, where the opponent recently passed through a sniper block
Day 2 - the opponent breaks through the Griffin Conservatory and takes the capital
Day 3 - at the necro respawn, barely failed to reach the opponent's scrub with the power
Replenished mana in the necro secondary and by the end of the week at the necro respawn Tazar took a Conservatory for 1 Angel, went into the third area where Wyrms became 64, took the Sword +5 All, Necklace +3 All, Hat +5 Knowledge, the opponent has artifacts and higher stats, but few other troops
Week 5 - I get lucky - it's a Plague Week, with Dimension Door I take the opponent's dungeon, replenish mana in the well, reclaim my Inferno, on day 4 approach my respawn, the opponent breaks into my capital, I was afraid to attack, Terek's spellpower is too high - decided to play it safe, positioned so that on day 6 I could either take my capital and upgrade the Wyverns, or take the opponent's capital and upgrade the Angels there, but the opponent attacks himself, he had no town portal magic and after the explosion on the Archers he surrenders
Thanks for the game

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I don't know why I wrote this here - I think it's fine

I and Neo got completely wrecked, I have no words. How is it even possible to draw jokers from the deck like that, I have no idea, maybe it's just our fate as dads)))