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I can understand not awarding tech wins if both players are at fault, for example, if they couldn't agree on something. But this is different. It is explicitly stated that a player does not receive 1 point for voluntarily surrendering a match. No one should care how the match was played – whether someone surrenders on the first turn, or the second, or they decide not to generate a map at all, but just enter a report in the header, or something else... It's the same as if Kasparov had to not lose the last game in a match, and because he's afraid of losing, he says, "I surrender," and the judge records both zeros, which is what Kasparov wants.

This is how three friends can prevent two world champions from advancing from the group under any circumstances.

Please answer the question.
There's a lot of irrelevant stuff... Kasparovs, Karpovs...
Do you remember the question?
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An organizer doesn't owe anything to anyone.

He doesn't owe anything to anyone, but I think that if he takes on such a job, he shouldn't allow situations that simply lead to the greatest injustice. Many people who sign up for a tournament may not even know what awaits them there. And I would gladly be the organizer myself if I could. :)
If you made it to the playoffs thanks to such "0-0" results, you would start questioning the fairness of this approach.

Yes, I would raise the issue of the fairness of the approach, because if I couldn't play the game COMPLETELY due to MY OWN fault, meaning I decided to forfeit the match, then I would ask to award my opponent 1 point. Because I am honest.

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Please answer the question.

You don't need to repeat that I should answer the question. When I was writing that message, I hadn't seen your question yet. I answered it later. Geez, it's so obvious here that it's amazing how some people don't understand it.

I really hope that Kash will explain to me how to handle the 6 cases that I wrote about above. I'm just interested in the technical details.
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I don't owe anything to anyone, but I think that if you take on such a task, you shouldn't allow situations that simply lead to the greatest injustice. Many people who sign up for a tournament may not even know what awaits them there. I would gladly be the organizer myself, if it were possible. :)

What is justice?
For example, one person gets a great draw, and the other gets nothing. Is that fair?
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For example, one player gets a great set of cards, while another gets a terrible one. Is that fair?

Why are you deviating from the topic? We're not talking about that right now. Restarts are designed for such situations, and this is a GAME. We're discussing possible actions by players that could eliminate any world champion from a tournament based on these rules.
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Tibuna, you're being quite refined here :D. Sergey, you need to play more – and post less (what did you think I meant? :D). He hasn't organized a single tournament, and you certainly can't accuse him of bias.
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I am not blaming anyone. I am offering advice on how to act in the future to avoid injustice and prevent anyone from feeling offended.
What's wrong with that?
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I am not blaming anyone. I am giving advice on how to act in the future to avoid injustice and prevent anyone from feeling offended.
What's wrong with that?
By participating in a tournament, you automatically agree to its rules, whether they are good or bad. The organizers set the rules, and in controversial matters, the organizers and judges affiliated with them act as arbitrators. As a forum participant, you can easily create your own tournament, coordinating it with the Tournament Committee or whoever else is necessary – or, you know, you can experience all the joys of being an organizer firsthand – go for it :D :D :D
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it should appeal even to the most neurotic leader – be it Putin or Mao.
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I want to create a tournament and would be happy to be the organizer. I will be the most fair... :) I just don't know all the specifics – how to create tournaments, who to coordinate with, etc.
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That's exactly what I want to do – create a tournament and gladly be the organizer. I'll be the most honest... :) I just don't know all the specifics – how to create tournaments, who to coordinate with, etc.
Write to PIT.
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Logisti k
should use even the (censored-coolest) organization – be it Putin or Mao
They have their own tournaments :D

But seriously: I want to hold a small cup for 8-16 people. What are your wishes? What template and regulations would you like? Maybe someone has original ideas?
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should use even the (censored-coolest) organization -- be it Putin or Mao
Tough guy - elaborate: D :D :D

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They have their own tournaments :D

And seriously: I want to hold a small cup for 8-16 people. What are your wishes? What template, regulations are desirable? Maybe someone has original ideas?
Yeah, give prizes, and make them big, bigger: D :D :D
An original idea is cool, but where to get it? They tried to push a commercial tournament, but it failed - crisis, or what?
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There will be a prize! :D There is no crisis in Nighon. Better yet, tell me what you want to play? Or should we create a separate topic? Ideas for new tournaments So that players can give organizers an idea of what they want from the tournaments.
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Tough guy - decipher it :D :D :D/QUOTE]

I have a thing :D : my eyes fill with blood when mods (or anyone, really) start throwing their weight around:smile13:
Весна 2014
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should use even the (censored-coolest) organization – be it Putin or Mao
A guy from Chelyabinsk showed up and said his piece. :D