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Posts from Appeals Committee. Disputed situations in tournaments.Auto-translated
I think it's definitely not needed in the seasonal league – there, if someone wants to post a game, they need permission from a member of the Tournament Committee, and that's it. It's simpler to just ignore this one game and not start new games with this player. But in tournaments, there are deadlines.
What’s the point? In games, when a match is postponed for any reason (disconnection, real-life issues), is it really necessary to harass the player in the chat, write to the admins trying to prove that he lost, messed up, and didn’t build a Castle by turn 117...? Wouldn’t it be easier to just ignore that player and not play with him (without bothering the admins and others)? And in tournaments, there are organizers who will take appropriate measures!
What's the point? In games, when a player has to postpone a match for any reason (disconnection, real-life issues), is it really necessary to pursue them in the game, write in the forums trying to prove that they lost, messed up, or didn't build a castle on turn 117...? Wouldn't it be easier to just forget about that game and not play with them anymore (without bothering the forums and other players)? And in tournaments, there are organizers who will take appropriate measures!
The last 2 authors – I agree 99%. But that 1 percent – imagine you play the game fairly and skillfully, and you beat some supposedly authoritative and supposedly strong player, but he hides and doesn’t respond. Some people might forgive it, but I can’t, for example, in such a situation. Hello, Vigo.
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AK! What’s the decision on Outlaw? Or, is it now okay to open saves if the opponent doesn’t respond for 2 days?
tенью бездомной (blue, all random swamp, Mirlanda, Bron) def (red, Convento, Castle, Valeska, Valeska ) 2smd4(3), 232 took Dragon Utopia max, they gave the book of fire, +6 to all, +10-2 total we have Bron (26-17-28-9) Armageddon 1430 110 mana Valeska (16-29-9-9) Fireball 1312 90 mana
During the final battle, the opponent made a mistake; knowing that I had Armageddon, he allowed his phoenixes to be killed. He didn't hit mine at all, and when he was left with 20 wyverns, and 14 horses, I had 2 casts in a row; one 1430 was enough
the opponent refuses to confirm the report, the person turned out to be not quite sane :( тенью бездомной vs Convento in ICQ
589827437 (21:01:51 26/01/2010) what the hell was that just now? Ze++34 (21:02:11 26/01/2010) Armageddon 1480 589827437 (21:02:32 26/01/2010) so what? Ze++34 (21:02:55 26/01/2010) I killed Valeska 589827437 (21:02:59 26/01/2010) what kind of joke is this? huh? how is that even possible? did it kill 20 wyverns or 17 cavalry at once? why are you bullshitting me dude? I have Fireball 1500 and it didn't kill 25 of your wyverns, but yours killed all my warriors at once Ze++34 (21:04:37 26/01/2010) you had 20 wyverns with 1400 health, Armageddon was 1480 589827437 (21:06:01 26/01/2010) yeah right, but then how did your troops survive? anyway I don't give a *** I didn't lose, I was winning that battle and then some ******* killed me Ze++34 (21:15:30 26/01/2010) dude, no one is going to play with you anymore since you don't know how to lose 589827437 (21:15:42 26/01/2010) basically admit that you would have lost without Armageddon you ****** almost your whole army while mine was still standing I didn't lose ***** I also have such magic, I could have ******* too Ze++34 (21:16:23 26/01/2010) yeah of course I would have lost without it, that was my plan, I couldn't have beaten you any other way 589827437 (21:16:30 26/01/2010) you can just fight honestly instead of ****** around
attaching our full ICQ correspondence with him to be honest, I don't care if this win is counted or not, I'm just bringing it to your attention: if you ever plan to play with Convento 589827437, re-read this report and the ICQ chat, and decline; save your nerves
upd 27.01.2010 just noticed that the opponent grossly and repeatedly violated the rules; using Angel Wings, he flew across half the map in 1 week, collected artifacts and hives without killing the guard monsters as a result, Valya (14-12-7-8) 107 archers 10 horses turned into Valya (16-29-9-9) 17 horses and 28 ducks look at screens 3 and 4, load the final save, all the guards are unbeaten there :) but he still lost :) Heroes 3 has never known such piggishness and lack of respect :) Kash
Guys, let's keep the swearing off the forum. I recommend confirming Convento if there are no other complaints. Using Armageddon from a book of fire is obviously not forbidden. And I recommend everyone be more tolerant of each other and not act rashly. Respect your opponent and remember that it's just a game
What's the point? In games, when a turn-based match is interrupted for any reason (disconnection, real-life issues), is it really necessary to harass the player in the chat, write in the support forum trying to prove that they lost, messed up, or didn't build a castle on turn 117...? Wouldn't it be easier to just forget about that game and not play with them anymore (without bothering the support forum and other players)? And in tournaments, there are organizers who will take appropriate measures!
And what about the time? Don't you feel like it's a waste? I do, for example. At least this way, there's some kind of compensation...
I'll start by saying that my opponent turned out to be absolutely arrogant and dishonest! which amazed me! Firstly, before the final battle, he attacked my scout hero with troops! he immediately cast Armageddon (that's when I found out he had it) but he didn't kill my troops right away in that battle! I write in the chat - let's do it differently, if we're going to attack on GG, at least let's warn each other! he replied that no one had ever warned him! I write - well, let's just play that way, it's not a big deal! he said OK! of course it's my mistake that I wrote this not in ICQ! but it's a matter of honesty! Secondly, this person asked me for a save in the game chat (apparently when he was attacking a Dragon Utopia)! I'm a kind person - of course I allowed him to save, I don't mind! (although I took the max Dragon Utopia myself and left most of my troops there and didn't whine);) And finally, thirdly - :D :D he posted a conversation from ICQ, but cut out the most important part for some reason:) crafty dude, crafty! here, take a look at what he cut out-
9874563231 (19:46:58 26/01/2010) I'm there )
Ze++34 (19:47:03 26/01/2010) го
987456321 (21:17:05 26/01/2010) hey, come on, please, when the GG vs GG fight happens, let's do it without Armageddon? it'll be more interesting, agree?
Ze++34 (21:18:42 26/01/2010) ok, just let me gather my troops
987456321 (21:20:32 26/01/2010) well, I'm not attacking yet anyway )))
9874563231 (21:59:03 26/01/2010) what was that just now?
Ze++34 (21:59:24 26/01/2010) Armageddon 1480
He clearly told me that there would be no Armageddon! and then at the end of the battle I understood why he promised that! he simply decided that he could win by deception and that it would be easy! and I'm a person used to taking others at their word - somehow I didn't think there could be deception!:eek: I refuse to confirm my defeat! he posted screenshots there and YOU can see his army outnumbers mine many times over! and I simply crushed him there, as can be seen! naturally he resorted to blatant deception and cast Armageddon! he had nothing else left to do, plus I had Shackles of War on me, he wouldn't have gotten away! Furthermore - I'm not a complete fool and I know that Armageddon doesn't touch Birds, and if I had known he would cast it, of course I would have killed them as quickly as possible! but I trusted him! People, believe me, I don't care about the rating! it's just that most people only play for it! I'm a newcomer here and I've played quite a fair number of games and have never deceived anyone! Reading our ICQ conversation, you'll understand that after his such arrogance, I was already willing to agree to a draw! I suggested not airing our dirty laundry in public! but you see, the guy fell for the rating HAHAHA! it's more important to him than honest play! Thank you to all the judges! I wish everyone true honesty in the game!
Wlk777, Kash, Dirty Player, I take it this is about me 1. yes, to hell with the logs, they can be faked, so please, could someone check the final save; for those who are too lazy, look at these 2 screenshots you can't really fake a save, right? at least I don't know how :) it's obvious that the opponent cleared a huge treasure zone without fighting the guards, just collected artifacts using Angel wings, meaning he either doesn't know the rules or is blatantly breaking them all along 2. was there an agreement? damn, I had nothing but Armageddon; for its sake, I buried 2 weeks of secondary growth in the Dragon Utopia the tavern showed Valya stronger than Bron and the Kingdom army strength was higher for Valya, and then I suddenly just gave up on Armageddon, yeah right :) which one of you would give up a last chance in the form of Armageddon? even if he had offered it. 3. apologies for the swearing, I won't do it again :) you'd think we are adults, right? :) Tomorrow I turn 26 (oops, while writing this, ICQ says I'm already 26 :) ), the opponent is 21 but respect for the opponent and self-control left me when after seven hours of gameplay it turned out that the opponent broke the rules, lost, and refuses to confirm the report in a profane manner
yes, it's probably hard to figure out from the outside, one says one thing, the other says another
if you absolutely cannot figure it out, set it to zeros, or give me a minus 1 (he won't get many points anyway, he has nothing but losses :) yesterday was his first victory, and 99% of it is fake; someone named Kenny44 registered and immediately lost to Convento on the same day, and wrote the confirmation in Convento's style :) poor Kenny, he'll never win against anyone here :( Bastard! he killed Kenny :) [this is just my imho]
I will prove I am right through long and flawless (in terms of rules) play here
link to the report if anyone needs it /topic/6642/ Sorry if I'm sticking my nose where it doesn't belong or wasting your time
Messages about the match shadow of a homeless person (blue, all random swamp, Mirlanda, Bron) def (red, Convento, castle, Valeska, Valeska) 2smd4(3), 232 moved here. Haven't had time to analyze it yet. We'll figure it out. Just no more arguing. The AK roster with nicknames in the first post of the thread. Wlk777
[U]AK! Where is the decision regarding Outlaw?
The decision will be made; I'm currently short on time in real life... I assume nothing terrible will happen in a week. There's still more than a month left until the end of the season in which this match took place. I'll deal with the MP draw and then get to this. Yesterday, I spent 6 hours negotiating with friendly resources.Wlk777
Or, can we now open saves if the opponent doesn't respond for 2 days?
No, you can't open saves. And you can't award yourself the victory either. OUTLAW understands this perfectly well.
By the way, why did everyone miss the part with the other two screenshots? They clearly show that the unbreachable guard is still there, but the hives and artifacts are gone.
I haven't had time to look into it yet. We'll figure it out. Just please, no more arguing.
Thanks, and I'm not rushing you with the deadlines.
Like partisans :) I guess I just didn't look hard enough. But it would be better to put the link to the forum rules in the rules section, in my opinion.
Kash, a separate thank you, but please don't argue with the others. No one here is picking on me; there's only one person on the forum who is picking on me, and I'm trying to restore justice with your help. I don't hold a grudge, even against those who fully side with my opponent. Even if the moderators side with him... I initially acted incorrectly due to my inexperience, all suggestions and comments directed at me are welcome. loi
My post – there's no "picking on" Shadow of the Homeless, quite the opposite (and as I understand it, the support found understanding, judging by his post and the fact that he raised my BD).
You understand correctly :)
By the way, why did everyone miss the part about the other two screenshots?
It's my fault! I only posted them in the morning when I wanted to find out how my opponent managed to level up so much in just one week, almost from scratch
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