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Posts from Club championship of the CIS countries.
VanYou're so stubborn; basically you're saying you guys are all pros and we're just total losers :D , IMHO the only one I can consistently call a father is Forrest, I challenge you to a hero duel, weapon - SoD, rules ХВ, turn 6 min :D :D :D, ICQ 589156325Let's not nitpick ;) Sorry if I offended anyone :) As for the duel - no problem- Friday evening or the weekend. Hit me up. You know my ICQ - we played together sometime.. and I think you already lost to me? ;)
About Forrest - yes, he's strong. In Kyiv he managed to come to me around the start of the second turn - with a crowd of Pandora dwarves, having an external dwelling of elves and boots and something else... Even though I wanted to go to him myself- I also considered myself strong :)))
Let's not flood here - if you want to discuss something or correct me - write to my ICQ. Van, please vote on the proposed points.
Nagan-4
16 years ago
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3. Dust can only go to Michurinsk. His counterpart, Aldegyr, can only go to Kyiv and cannot go to Michurinsk. It's an either/or situation. Aldegyr is the winner among the strongest recognized players in Kyiv, and Dust finished 3rd or 4th in Siberia... Who should we choose?
Why choose at all? Was there any talk about moving the tournament from Kyiv to Michurinsk? Aldegyr played brilliantly in his qualifier and will make a splash in the final. Regarding Dust, don't underestimate him as a player. I remember his match against AlexGreat in St. Petersburg; the whole club, including Antal, Bayazet, and Mike, stood around and watched; it was one of the most interesting matches, especially the final battle. And, by the way, Dust won. But that's just an aside.
The question is: they collected money for Dust and Mike, and they both went... logically, shouldn't they also collect money for Van? The total amount would be around 90,000. Is that about $3,000? This is if it's for Kyiv. If it's for Michurinsk, the amount should be half as much...
Collecting that amount would be good, but is it realistic? Alex Dust came to St. Petersburg at his own expense, as did Vex in Krasnodar, and Dreamcatcher in Michurinsk. I don't think it's possible to collect that much money, like 90,000. But it's definitely possible to help; I've already written about how. Accommodation, club access, no entry fees, and ideally, transferring the prize fund. And people will appreciate being given a decent welcome and reception.
In my opinion, it wouldn't be worth messing around with prize money... besides, there are people who can't even contribute a hundred dollars...
No one is talking about extorting money from people. But couldn't we just talk to people on ICQ, some of whom can contribute and some of whom can't? The prize fund is the last thing on my mind; we can do without it. But if it's of interest to the participants, then we can do it.
Van
16 years ago
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I haven't even figured out which city yet. Guys, you misinterpreted my post. I wrote that I would try to come, but a trip to Kyiv alone is like a trip to Egypt for two people. Unfortunately, I'm not a multimillionaire. As for the game, SOD, SM, panic, balance, rules for Hv, and even if there will be a full TE, there's nothing for me to do there (it's like a biathlete comes to a championship, and they say, "Sorry, we have big tennis here"), unless I just hang out :smile09:. I'll drop by on the weekend; I finally found a reason to play a rematch, because it's always Chinese players or tournaments... ;)
Regarding covering my travel expenses. Personally, I don't need compensation for travel if I go to Michurinsk; I'll cover it myself, of course. I would only be happy if I could stay somewhere in a friendly group with my comrades, rather than in a depressing hotel. ;-)
However, Kyiv is a completely different story for me. My wife appears on the scene, and no amount of compensation will be enough :D, especially from the players.
In general, it's up to the organizers to decide, but please protect your brains from the unstoppable outbursts of Mr. Tsar, that restless center of the universe. :p We have old scores to settle with him... ;)
Nagan-4
Regarding Dust – you shouldn't underestimate him as a player. I remember his match with AlexGreat in St. Petersburg; the whole club, including Antal, Bayazet, and Mike, stood around and watched; it was one of the most interesting matches, especially the final battle. And, by the way, Dust won. But that's just a side note.
Wow, pleasant memories; it's nice to know that someone still remembers me as a player :D. Thanks, it was a great match. :cool:
Since the very fact of participation largely depends on the version and rules (for example, Van, I would also think about whether to go or not if it's SoD smka :D), we still need to continue voting for the version and rules.
Van
16 years ago
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Well, during the qualifiers, both SOD and SM, including the highly respected Forrest, were very active. But I think we should wait for all the qualifiers to finish and ask all the participants where and on which version they want to play. As for speculations like "I'll go or I won't," I personally don't care – everyone is free to decide. Even if it's TE, I'll come and watch if the timing and budget allow.
This is what happens when regulations and rules are made up "on the fly"! It's a mess!!! No serious tournament can tolerate this. The rules must be clearly stated in the regulations and agreed upon in advance, and moreover, the semi-final and final must be played under the same rules. Isn't that logical?
It's like holding a football qualifier in South America and a hockey tournament in Europe... Then, for the final, they compromised and played field hockey :D, with some kicking the ball and others using hockey sticks :D. Don't you see the similarity?
It's like how they held football trials in South America and hockey trials in Europe... Don't you see any similarities?
There are zero similarities. There aren't any athletes in the modern world who play both hockey and football at a high level. I would compare it to tennis on different surfaces. There are tennis players who are favorites on clay but become easy targets on grass (many Spaniards and Argentinians). And there are very strong players who are strong everywhere (Nadal, Federer, Djokovic). The same applies to Heroes (an analogy to tennis). Some are very specialized – SoD smurfs (for example, Van), but within their specialization, they are strong players. And some are versatile and play all versions very well (Alex, Stinger, Cobra, Le Bron). The former have two paths: continue in their specialization or become versatile and expand their capabilities. Rafael Nadal was already the king of clay a few years ago (zero losses at Roland Garros for 3 years), but on grass, he was mediocre. Many told him that it wasn't his thing – don't bother. But he mastered the grass courts of Wimbledon, first reaching the final and then winning the tournament.
So, for us, changes in rules and versions are just a change of surface. Naturally, for some, it's a major issue (SoD smurfers), but for others, it's not (versatile players like Alex, Stinger, Cobra)
Van
16 years ago
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2 Fortress I agree +1, he's a good diplomat, but I'm a noob, and I know it :D, well, hopefully everything will work out, and we'll play both on and off the grass :D
Rafael Nadal was already the king of clay a few years ago.
But Nadal knows that if he goes to a tournament, he won't find grass under his feet :D. That's what I'm talking about. And I'm sure that in tennis, it doesn't happen that the semi-final is played on grass and the final on clay... or maybe even on a table tennis court :D. Does that make sense?
Lider1
16 years ago
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Be careful with the grass there, they might give you a penalty from 5 to 12 :D :D :D
Football. When it's snowing in Russia and our clubs are playing against Spanish teams in European competitions at home, we always hope that the Spanish won't be able to win in such cold weather and on such fields. But they win! Because they are stronger.
Examples:
1. The final of the Siberian qualifier. Van persuades Mike to play not in TE-light, but in SOD, and he succeeds. But as a result, Mike won. And there's no need to blame the game version for your losses.
2. The "Bezpredel" tournament on the portal. I play against Preds. Preds agrees to the version and all the settings I want, and wins twice.
Conclusion: the one who plays better will win. The version doesn't matter!!!
Examples: 1. The final of the Siberian qualifier. Van persuades Mike to play SOD instead of TE-lite, and he succeeds. But in the end, Mike won. And there's no need to blame the game version for your losses.
Sash, you don't need to say that. It's like Mike has been playing TE all his life, and suddenly he decides to play SOD. :D
Conclusion: the one who plays better will win. The version doesn't matter!!!
There's another point: on the CM map, the luck factor is very significant, i.e., it's much harder to recover from a worse starting position than on the HL template. On 8MM6, you can run to the companions and win (personally, I've salvaged a lot of hopeless situations), but on the CM map, you're forced to run in circles and lose 95 out of 100 games (like my game with Britva in MvsM).
Van
16 years ago
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Who, for example, talks about SMK? Like, a cherk from SMK, panic, balance, 8mm, and Jebus will take care of everyone.
