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Hey Mish-gun, where are you? You disappeared somewhere. I've been wanting to kill a couple of dwarves for ages. I already installed Hamachi; tell me what I need – the password, when, etc., and let's play. You seem too worried. And by the way, Axel is a noob; Vittorio or Laslo are much better.

I give you the right to choose who you want to play against: Heaven or Dwarves, it doesn't matter to me!
I see that you have a bad opinion about Heaven, so I can play as them, specifically with the noob Axel;) !

Hamachi: Heronets Password: 12345 or 123456, I don't remember exactly.
Time: Saturday, December 12, 2009, at 9:00 PM Moscow time. (if someone won't make it on time, we'll wait for each other)
If we don't finish in time, we'll continue the next day!
For a more stable game, install the Hamachi version from this link: /topic/4742/

Of course, if you don't mind, to keep the experiment fair and determine Who is stronger?, we need to set some rules for the game:
1. Map "Lands of Outcasts".
2. We play late-game, endgame on week 1 of month 4.
3. You start underground, I start above ground.
4. Until the endgame, each player stays on their territory; we don't go up or down to each other.
5. You can capture the second neutral base; I don't mind.

In my opinion, these are more than fair conditions for you!

Do you agree?
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Points #2 and #4 when you play as Axel? Ha-ha-ha, you came up with a good set of rules...
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Он лежит на своих сокровищах,и в сердце его зависть и злоба. Не верь, что голова его склонилась во сне, если глаза его закрыты. Дракон не спит никогда.
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Points #2 and #4 when you play as Axel? Ha-ha-ha, what a great set of rules you came up with...

He thinks that Necropolis is unbeatable, and that Axel is a noob?
Let's see if he's right or wrong! This will be a lesson for him! Let him know who's the boss!;)
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He thinks that Necropolis is unbeatable, and that Axel is a loser?
Let's see if he's right or wrong! This will be a lesson for him! Let him know who's older!;)

This is just bullying a baby...
Cancel the even-numbered points and prove who is right...
(The 1st week of the 4th month is the 13th week! With proper play and a good gold income, you can get (4*10+13*9)=157 Knights of Isabel!!!, but even 100 is more than enough for Axel...)
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Он лежит на своих сокровищах,и в сердце его зависть и злоба. Не верь, что голова его склонилась во сне, если глаза его закрыты. Дракон не спит никогда.
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That's just bullying...
Cancel the even points and prove who is right...
(The 4th week of the month is the 13th week! With proper play and enough gold, you can get (4*10+13*9)=157 Knights of Isabel!!!, but even 100 Axel is more than enough...)

You don't know where our argument "comes from," it's solely about the late game and the fact that, according to my opponent, no one can stand against the Necromancer in a long game, and also that Axel is weak! I just don't like it when people talk nonsense without knowing the real state of things!

157 is an exaggeration; even a Gnome couldn't handle that many!
Against the Necromancer, 100 will be enough for me, or even less!
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And why immediately the Outlands? Well, I don't really care, but I was actually planning to play against the Dwarves, but we can also play against Humans. Regarding Haven – I wasn't actually putting down Humans, don't get me wrong. But they are still weaker than Necropolis. Okay, we'll play on Saturday.
Эх, опять идти за сигаретами... :smile34:
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What's with the "lands of outcasts" right away? Well, I don't really care, but I was actually planning to play against dwarves, but we can also play against humans. Regarding Haven – I wasn't really putting down humans, don't get me wrong. But they're still weaker than Necropolis. Okay, we'll play on Saturday.

And you didn't even say anything about Haven!? You just called Axel, the strongest hero in the late game, a loser! And he happens to be a Haven hero!

Lands of Outcasts is one of those rare maps where you can play for a long time simultaneously without turn-based mode! If you're against it, suggest your own map, I don't mind.

No problem, I'll play as a dwarf if you want, it's just that you don't stand a chance against Axel!

P.S.: Don't forget to install Hamachi in the version I specified, it's less buggy than the newer versions!
My nickname in Hamachi is the same as on this forum!
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Hey Mish-gan, I have a question for you. You're generously allowing me to capture a second Castle, but what about you? What if you decide to capture one too and we play two against two? There might be other players involved. You were boasting that you could defeat Necropolis with just one Castle, right?
Эх, опять идти за сигаретами... :smile34:
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Hey Mish-gan, I have a question for you. You generously allow me to capture a second castle, but what about you? What if you decide to capture one too and we play two against two? There might be people involved. You were boasting that you can't defeat Necropolis with just one castle, right?

This isn't generosity, but a fact proven in practice – Necropolis needs at least 2 castles to be competitively viable. It's a normal practice – "Necropolis treats any castle like its own!"

If my second castle is also either Gnomes or Humans (depending on who I'm playing as), then we can just start over!

I'm not boasting; you'll see for yourself!
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Listen, Mish-gan, you're quite the sly one! Or maybe I'm on the surface, and you'll be wasting away in this dungeon? And then, on your native land, you won't even need to take a log, while I'll be struggling there? And what's the point of setting up a camp? Just close the slot, and that's it. Yes, a new tactic against your knights, "banshee attackers," is brewing, so be prepared. I just tested it – an army with 85 knights led by Isabel and Axel, level 25 (you probably won't gather more than that in 4 months, unless you have only one castle), falls like a domino. Ha-ha, so here's the trick: we subdue the Zealots and attack the Griffins – a double strike and a double counterattack. They simply destroy each other.
Эх, опять идти за сигаретами... :smile34:
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Listen, Mish-gan, you're quite a clever beaver! Or maybe I'm on the surface, and you'll be wasting away in this Dungeon? And then, on your native land, you won't even need to take a toll, but I'll be struggling there? And what's the point of setting up a camp? Just close the slot, and that's it.
Yes, here, a new tactic, "banshee-attackers," is brewing against your Knights, so be prepared. I was just testing it – an army where there were 85 Knights of Isabel, led by Axel, level 25 (you probably won't gather more than that in 4 months, unless, of course, you have only one Castle), is easily defeated.
Ha-ha, so here's a funny thing I discovered – we subdue Zealots and attack Griffins – a double strike and a double counterattack. They simply destroy each other.

Listen, smart guy, if you didn't know, let me explain: some of the Light factions, such as the Stronghold, the Academy, and including Heaven, have a movement penalty underground, but Demons, Warlocks, and including Necromancers do not have this penalty! So, your native land is also available to you!
So, don't overdo it, and practice!
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I was just checking – in an army with 85 Knights led by Isabel and Axel, level 25 (you probably won't get more than that in 4 months, unless you only have one castle).
You've been told many times – any hero will reach level 25 in the second month, and by the fourth month, they will naturally be at least level 30.
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Haha, so here's the thing: we subdue the Zealots and attack the Griffins – a double strike and a double counterattack. They simply destroy each other.
And here you are overly optimistic – by the time the subdued Zealots get their turn, the cavalry will have cut down all your troops.
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antonag07: What kind of nonsense is this? Have you never played on the Outlands map? Where did you get 25 on the second month, when the maximum is 26-27? And if you just put some pressure on his cavalry, you won't have any more problems with it. As for the turn, it will reach its destination, it won't go anywhere. I think you are being overly optimistic. Even if the Necromancers fail, the Humans still have a good chance of winning.

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Listen, smart guy, if you didn't know, let me explain: some of the Light factions, such as the Stronghold, the Academy, and including Heaven, have a movement penalty in underground areas, while Demons, Dark Mages, and including Necromancers do not have this penalty! So, you also have a home advantage!
So don't go overboard, and practice!
What are you talking about? Everyone except the Tower has a penalty in dungeons! Read more books. And you probably want to play the endgame on a neutral territory too? Well, okay, you're the boss, but I'll still beat your Axel.
Эх, опять идти за сигаретами... :smile34:
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Who are you trying to provoke, peasant!? Antonag07, people like you get no mercy...
Damn, I can't wait for you to fail (you shouldn't have agreed to these rules)...
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Он лежит на своих сокровищах,и в сердце его зависть и злоба. Не верь, что голова его склонилась во сне, если глаза его закрыты. Дракон не спит никогда.
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antonag07 What nonsense are you talking about? Have you never played on the "Lands of Exile" map? Where did you get 25 on the second month, when the maximum is 26-27? And if you manage to contain their cavalry somewhere, you won't have any more problems with it. As for the turn, it will reach its destination, it won't go anywhere. I think you are being overly optimistic. Even if the Necromancers fail, with the Humans having good luck, the Necromancers still have a good chance of winning.

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What are you talking about? Everyone except the Tower has a penalty in the Dungeon! Read more books. And you probably want to play the endgame on the "People's Land" as well? Well, okay, you're the boss, I'll still beat your Axel.
The thing is, I know this map ("Lands of Exile") quite well, as do most forum users, whose messages cause you confusion. But since you consider yourself a strong player, answer this question: on what day do you take Utopia when playing as Necromancers and starting on the red/blue locations? (for reference: there are 4 Utopias and 4 Silanna trees on this map - 2 on the surface and 2 in the Dungeon).