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When is it worth building Tanners, considering 20 crystals is a lot? And subsequently, who should you recruit: Jarls with fire magic or Earls with storm strike? I think this question has worried everyone at some point, or does anyone have their own ideal choice? I'm a bit hesitant when choosing these "giants"... :smile15:

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(This topic is created to discuss Tanner upgrades) - please, no off-topic.

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Personally, I think it depends on the situation. You can leave the Thanes as they are; upgrading them to Earls doesn't really improve them much (one lightning bolt at a distance... it's not very effective). If the enemy is expected to have dense troop formations, it's better to delay the upgrade; otherwise, I think Earls are more useful.
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(casting lightning once at a distance... doesn't seem very effective)
With each attack, it will strike several units with lightning. It's perfect when the enemy is in tight formations.


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Even ordinary units can do that.
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The upgraded unit has 145 HP and a stronger attack.


Барон "Vampires"

Отдай свои прошлые сны,
В сомненьях себя обрети,
В бешеном танце душа кружится!
Не думай, что будет потом,
Здесь и сейчас мы живем,
Стань хоть на миг сам собой, слышишь!


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Guys, forum users, the use of Earl's ability can only happen once. And the Storm Strike is when Earl attacks, dealing both the base damage and additional damage from the storm, which can then spread in a chain to nearby units.

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Personally, I don't think the bonuses are that great. It's better to wait and build dragons, for example. Although, I'm not really an expert on Fortress; I usually play as Inferno and Dungeon...
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The bonus might not be that big, but if there’s a rune of battle fury, Erls still look better...

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Here’s what I want to know: Does the rune disappear if you press “wait,” or does it remain until used?

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If we use the "Armageddon" tactic, then Yarli!

But in other cases, of course, Erli!
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Mish-gan, are you really going to take Earls if you don't have the Battle Fury rune? And Jarls can be used with Priests in all battles – Sign of Fire + Fireball or Wall!

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Mish-ganare you really going to take Erls if there's no Battle Fury rune? And warlords can be used with priests in all battles - Fire Sign + Fireball or Wall!

Of course, it all depends on the battle tactics.
Erls - because in one turn they can attack several opponents at once (Chain Lightning), I think this is what makes them superior to Warlords!
Honestly, I think the Battle Fury rune is overpowered, and when it drops, using it with Erls is just... (sorry, but it's true)!
Don't forget that Erls are also strong with another rune (Berserker - double strike). I choose Erls because, with normal initiative (compared to other dwarves), they go into the enemy ranks first (closer to the archers), especially when I play against Elves, Humans, Orcs, and Mages, and thanks to their Chain Lightning, they eliminate dangerous archers and inflict serious damage on nearby units! It all makes sense!
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The Fire Sign with Priests can deal just as much damage... and don't forget that the Jarls have the Fire Wave spell, which is simply great against Phantoms and the like. And their stats are better too!:smile19:

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The fire sign with priests can deal no less damage... and don't forget that the Jarls have a fire wave spell, which is simply great against phantoms and the like. And their stats are stronger!:smile19:

I know about the fire sign, but I don't think that the Jarls' total damage output is higher than the Earls', quite the opposite!

Sorry, but the fire wave deals too little damage compared to the chain lightning and is only effective against phantoms! + In my gnome gameplay tactics, Earls play one of the key roles!
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Here's my question for you, Mish-gan: if you have a Chaos Mage and a Rune of Battle and Fury, which hero would you choose – Yarl or Erland? On the other hand, if the hero is focused on Light magic, is there anyone else suitable for the Rune of Battle and Fury? And here's another thing: against Orcs, I would choose Yarl, because Yarl is more focused on defense than attack, while Erland, with his ability, is more focused on attack!

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I have a question for you, Mish-gan: if you have a Chaos Mage and a Battle Fury Rune, who would you choose – Yarl or Erland?
On the other hand, if the hero is following a Light path, and you have a Battle Fury Rune, is there anyone else you would consider?
And one more thing: against Orcs, I would choose Yarl, because Yarl is more focused on defense than attack, while Erland, with his ability, is more focused on attack!

I have developed the main tactics for playing as Dwarves!
If I'm going for a Chaos build, I only go for a rush strategy, and if I have a Battle Fury Rune and there isn't a "Armageddon" artifact, I choose Erland. If there is a "Armageddon" artifact, then I choose Yarl, regardless of the runes.
When I'm going for a Light build, the choice is clear: it's Erland. The difference in stats between them doesn't play a critical role, but the attack potential, even without runes, is higher for Erlands than for Yarls!

In 80% of cases, my choice is Erland!
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