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And what about the second Moscow qualifier – are there not many advantages? Invite Rolpogo, Morpheus, Rox, Veland, Dimen, Pit, Phoenixes – they are more likely not to play in Tournaments because most people haven't heard of it... but they could play.
After all, this is an additional 10-12 people for the tournament, and there aren't that many of us, so we shouldn't be so dismissive. Tournaments are rarely limited by the number of players from SoD.
With due diligence, it is possible to find and invite enough people for both SoD and Tournaments tournaments.
Eric, when you look at the Clans lineups, do you somehow relate them to players you know?
As I assume, Nagana's idea is to gather as many people as possible.
And since most of the true SoD players will not make it to the finals, they won't create any particular problems.
...Or what prevents Pete from opening the 8mm6 template during the game to get his bearings? I haven't played CM for ages, I opened the template in a browser and played, and I didn't die.

Eric, why are you constantly replacing TE-lite with TE? Why can't Sod players play on the lite version? At the qualifier in Kyiv, the TE players (Volodymyr, Forrest, Piterius, and I) came and played on a version and template that wasn't ideal for them without any questions. Why are the orthodox Sod players creating tension with their ultimatums, like "we don't like this, we don't like that"? Does pride prevent them from learning three buttons and two differences between the lite version and Sod in fifteen minutes? Or what prevents Pete from opening the 8mm6 template scheme during the game to get his bearings? I haven't played CM for ages, I opened the scheme in a browser and played, and I didn't die.
Does pride prevent you from learning three buttons and two differences between Light and SoD in fifteen minutes?
Therefore, ideally, we should encourage everyone we can to participate in tournaments, even if it's just for fun.
Thank you, colleagues!
I raised the question of whether it's worthwhile to hold such a tournament.
1. Tradition. Two qualifying tournaments have been held on SoD; it seems logical to continue in the same spirit.
2. Statistics. Look at which version and map most games have been played on in the last three years.
Possible solutions.
1. Positive.
Have a calm discussion and, without imposing or pushing your opinion, come to the conclusion of holding two qualifying tournaments simultaneously at one venue.
By the way (although, given the somewhat heightened emotional atmosphere, this seems unlikely), it would be possible to hold a duel tournament for the fifth game at the same time, and maybe even a small round-robin tournament for the second game...
2. Negative. Argue and hold two qualifying tournaments in different places, scheduling them at the same time. I want to believe that this will not happen.
I hope for understanding and that this topic will soon become irrelevant due to the opening of the SoD group in the Moscow qualifying tournament of SaGa. I don't hold any grudges; the positive emotions from our meeting last winter remain. :))) If the idea of holding a tournament for the second game simultaneously is of interest, I am ready to help with the organization and judging.
Why is this? The tournament was supposedly planned not as some general oversized party, but as a competition. Why is there now an affront to the sporting principle in particular and common sense in general?
Let the tournament be held on SoD, but not as a qualifier.
If SoD was simply necessary to gather a quorum in Michurinsk, then with Moscow things are different.
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It should be understood that the honorable opportunity to invite the old players mentioned by Erik to a SoD tournament will be entrusted to Erik himself.
By the way (although now, given the somewhat heightened emotional background, this seems unlikely), it would have been possible to simultaneously hold a duel tournament for the fifths and maybe even a small round-robin for the seconds...
I haven't been to the club on Frunzenskaya, but according to Vova and Stingray — it's small, they even doubted the feasibility of holding a single tournament. Running several in parallel, as I understand it, is even more problematic. Staggering them by time will definitely be necessary.
He knows it better than many, but he doesn't like it.
Eugene, let's take it step by step. You probably accepted SoD in Kyiv because you were a strong player in SoD. At least in 2004 (I think you played with Antal and you were just a little short of winning).
I assume that Forrest and others also started playing SoD, and they liked it so much that they stayed in Heroes... but I won't get into a discussion about TE and SoD.
Regarding the pride of SoD players. Don't TE players have pride? The question is different. To accept or not accept TE (especially TE-lite), you need to understand it.