Posts from Moscow qualifying tournament for Shades of Darkness.

There is an opinion that it would be appropriate to hold a club tournament in Moscow.
Game version - SoD.
Template - sm.

Leave your applications, let's discuss.

There is an opinion regarding the feasibility of holding a club tournament in Moscow.
Game version - SoD.
Template - sm.

Leave your applications, let's discuss.

it's like having an opinion to hold a Formula 1 championship using museum exhibits, with the track being a specially built copy of Monaco in each host country!!!

ps: personally, I would take part in both races, despite the clear trends toward segregation — as opposed to the unifying ideas of the esteemed Nagan! :)

I see, Vitalik's personal squire showed up when he smelled the carrion :). Since the final will be on Light, it makes sense to test the discard decks on it as well. The guys from St. Petersburg aren't thrilled with Light either; they'd rather play Full, but who's going to let them...?

I see, Vitalik's personal squire showed up when he smelled the scent of carrion :)

Yur, take it easy! :) An extra tournament is just an extra opportunity to practice ;)
Besides, the tension in the game is lower on small maps, you can practice fast-clicking, which will be useful in TE :smile44: So, respect to the organizers, the more tournaments, the better!

The downsides are different: if the old guard doesn't show up for the small maps, it will be difficult for Vitalik to redeem himself from these silly suspicions((((((( A player of that caliber should be able to crush opponents easily, but where will he find them? :(
And I already wrote about the separation... although Moscow is a big city, if there is a necessary quota for the final, and both tournaments gather the necessary quorum...

The clash of versions and so on has started again. And it's all because Nagan said, "Play however you want." As the author of the idea, he should have created a set of rules that everyone would follow. And then no one could have weaseled out of it. Personally, I'm in favor of SOD, but I've always said that I'm ready for any version and any rules, as the organizer decides.

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And the fact that Querty organized something on his own isn't a big deal. An extra tournament is always a plus! But he should also have written what the word "qualifying" means. Where, to what, and who will be selected for his tournament? :confused:

He should also explain what the word "qualifying" means. Where, to what, and who will be selected for his tournament? :confused:

The goal is quite clear – so that Vitalik can qualify without much competition.

The goal is quite clear – to ensure that Vitalik qualifies without much competition.

I think it's obvious that even for a city like Moscow, having two qualifiers for the CIS championship is too much. That's why the question arose: maybe the qualifier should be held somewhere else? :D

The goal is quite clear – to ensure that Vitalik qualifies without much competition :).

I've seen Vitalik's and Pete's saves, and IMO, Pete plays noticeably better (although I'm judging based on my limited experience:o ...).

I saw Vitalik's and Pit's saves, IMO Pit plays noticeably better (although I'm judging based on my limited experience:o...).

Everyone has a different understanding of STRENGTH. For some, it's about breaking Utopia on the first map or a Consul-maximized army on the second and immediately going for the victory. But to achieve results, you need not strength, but STABILITY!

Dear players and organizers, I ask you to discuss the following proposal for Moscow. My reasoning is as follows:
1. Moscow is a very large city in general and very prominent in terms of Heroes in particular. I already wrote in the very first post that with the right approach, an ultra-strong community can receive slightly more slots for the finals.
2. TE and SoD are two wings of one bird; if one stops flapping, the other will inevitably wither.

Now then, I have no doubt that the tournament being held by SAG and Yama-Dharma will take place—there will be enough old Chaosites and current Bay players for a tournament. Naturally, it will be TE.
But at the same time, look at what disputes have unfolded on the forum; moreover, one cannot say that this was specifically organized by the Order of the Phoenix clan, as I think no one would categorize Pita, Loya, or Dirty as fans of the Phoenixes.
But look at what a great tournament could be made in SoD.
Pita and Keba are, imho, some of the best SoD players and overall top-three players. These are Phoenix players.
Also, the respected Querty has good connections with Portal. If we are drawing old Chaosite Muscovites to a tournament, why not draw distinguished Portal Muscovites, such as Rolpogo and Morpheus? You might say it's not the same level—then read about the Krasnodar festival and who won the tactical combat tournament, where many top players competed.
A whole gang of Michurinsk players—Veland, Pavel, KHVOST, Dimen, Alf, Alex, etc.—have moved to Moscow to live; they are convinced SoD players. If even some of them are attracted to a tournament, they won't ruin the game.
And finally, World players for the most part play specifically SoD; I think many would like to play: both to see the city and to play while supporting their favorite version. It seems that Rox himself lives in Moscow.

So, both tournaments should have a right to exist. Both can gather at least 10-12 well-known players, or even more. The disputes will stop immediately, and a competition will begin over who runs their tournament better, which will further fuel interest in the event. In the end, everyone wins—both SoD players and TE players.
Otherwise, some players will simply ignore the tournament; one of the versions might win, but the Heroes community as a whole will lose. I propose two qualifying slots—one for each tournament!!!!

Some questions arise along the way:
1. Isn't it too many? As many as 4 slots for Moscow?
Answer: It is not too many if you consider the merits of this city in the Heroes movement and the combined strength of these players. Anyone who has played against them knows.
2. Is it too few? Specifically, if the old fathers gather for the TE tournament? No, probably not. Because Stinger and PRedS have already qualified in Michurinsk, so at least 6 people will definitely be representing the Moscow region. Provided, of course, that non-residents don't "take" Moscow.

That is all, basically.

2Nagan-4: Two questions for you right away.
1. Is it okay if someone plays both TE and SoD to have a better chance of making the cut?
2. What happens with the finale under such anarchy? Will the SoD patriots want their own finale, or will they blackmail others by refusing to participate (if the finale is on TE-lite)? What then?

2Nagan-4: I have two questions for you.
1. Is it okay if someone plays in both TE and SOD to have a better chance of qualifying?
2. What about the final with such chaos? Will the SOD patriots want their own final, or will they blackmail us with their refusal (if the final is on TE-lite)? What then?

1. Let them play, it's better than not playing at all.
2. For now, it's important that the tournaments actually take place; look at the interest in the tournament topics. Even individual qualifying rounds are valuable in themselves, like Michurinsk or Kyiv; people didn't regret coming.
As for the patriots... it's possible, and it's also possible that the TE-full players will blackmail us: but the majority of the finalists will be reasonable; TE-lite is currently the only chance to hold a joint tournament.
The fact that blackmail deprives you of the chance to play in such an important event will bring overly hot-headed people back to their senses.

Erik, the fight didn't start because of the Heroes version, but because of the templates :(
they wanted to play on light; absolutely no one was being forced into full
the subsequent argument arose only because of the categorical nature of some comrades... for example, I personally enjoy playing SoD, while realizing that on TE even a light return from moves could be significantly higher, and less attention and concentration would be spent))))
if an alternative is to be made, they'll want to play not just SoD, but SM, which those compatriots of yours mentioned will categorically refuse to play :(

and who then is such a tournament for? For a couple of people incapable of finding reasonable (and essentially beneficial for themselves as well) compromises? :)

So, who is this Tournament for then? For a couple of people who are incapable of finding reasonable (and essentially mutually beneficial) compromises?

2 Yama-Dharma.
Vova, I invited everyone to Michurinsk, I talked to each person, promoted it, and tried to convince them. Yes, I didn't convince everyone I wanted to see, the problem was the distance; not everyone had the opportunity to come.
But Moscow is just one city, albeit a very large one. Those who want to play will always find the time to play.
Maybe it's worth talking to them on ICQ and finding a compromise together.

And regarding the second Moscow qualifier – aren't there many advantages? Invite Rolpogo, Morpheus, Rox, Veland, Dimen, Pete, Phoenixes – they are more likely not to play in the Tournament Edition because most of them haven't heard of it... but they could play.
After all, this is an additional 10-12 people for the tournament, and we're not that many, so we shouldn't be so dismissive. The Tournament Edition tournaments are rarely limited by the number of players from SoD.
With due diligence, you can find and invite enough people to both SoD and Tournament Edition tournaments.

Nagan. There are no problems with the version. TE-full is played only with consent, and TE light doesn't differ in gameplay from SOD. And there are no disagreements with the templates yet. For those who can only play with small maps, there will be opponents among those playing 8mm6. I wouldn't want to separate the Moscow qualifiers. Although, if someone wants to create their own separate arena, good luck to them.
Maybe the Bulgarians will join with a qualifier only on Jebus, and the Poles with a qualifier on Balance :)
I think I've said what I wanted to say.