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Due to the increased interest in clause 5.2.1 of the seasonal rules recently, I decided to organize a little tournament like this. The goal is to find out how "cheaty" level 4 combat magic specialists (Aislinn, Deemer, Solmir) are if they aren't restricted by Mage Guild-4 construction. Let me say right away that no decisions will be made based solely on the results of the tournament; perhaps some games can be taken into account when discussing restrictions. I'm just tired of pointless chatter. Less talk, more action.
Tournament
"Sword vs Magic"



1. Organization.

This is a fan tournament; all games will go into the rating, no medals are involved. Although anything can happen—if we really expand, maybe.
I am the organizer; if needed, KostyaN will help as the judge.
Applications are no longer being accepted.

2. Game version - SoD 3.2 (4.0)

3. Template - 2SM4d(3)

4. Tournament dates.
From October 1 to December 24, with two weeks for each round.
There will be no technical results, meaning anyone who fails to agree on a game automatically receives zeros.

5. Regulations.
Two teams play: "Sword" and "Magic"
The draw for the first round can be seen slightly below;
further rounds are played according to the Swiss system
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i.e., those who scored more points on team "Sword" play against those who scored more points on team "Magic". Situations regarding "who plays whom" that cannot be resolved logically will be decided by a draw. We play 6 rounds. The team that wins the most games is victorious.

Naturally, participants must submit a report and confirmation for each played game in this thread. Saves of all games must be kept until the end of the tournament and presented upon the first request of the tournament leaders or any member of the AK.

1 point is awarded for a win, 0.5 for a draw (a draw will only be counted if reports from both participants are present), and 0 for a loss.

6. Rules
We play by the seasonal rules
with the following changes:

Clause 3. Choice of color and castles
The "Magic" team player chooses one of the following starting heroes: Aislinn, Deemer, Solmir, Loins, Coronius, Xiron, Alamar, Jeddit, and the corresponding castle. They also cross out 2 castles for their opponent when choosing Aislinn, and 4 when choosing another hero.
The "Sword" team player chooses a castle from the remaining seven and a starting hero. Exceptions are the Conflux castle (random hero) and level 4 magic specialist heroes, as well as Tant (they cannot be chosen). If the "Magic" team player chose Aislinn, then the "Sword" team player chooses the color. When other heroes are chosen, the "Magic" team player chooses the color.

As an exception, Dirty_Player is allowed to choose Luna as a starting hero. His opponent chooses the color, but—note that—the color changes after a restart (111 or 113).

Example:
SpiriTT: I want red Solmir, I'll cross out necros, flux, dungeon, and tower for you
Kash: Great, I'll take Kiryusha

Game is red Tower (Solmir) vs Rampart

To clarify: there are no obligations to use starting or other heroes in the game or in the finale; use whoever you want within the tournament rules.
That is, in our example, Nella and Aislinn could easily meet in the finale; it's just that we won't prove anything to each other by doing so.

Clause 5.2.1. is canceled:
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5.2.1. All level 4 magic specialist heroes, as well as Tant (Raise Dead), may use their specialized spells against an opponent in the following cases:
a) if the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (Mage Guild) is built in any of the controlled castles. If these castles do not have the required Mage Guild level, then it is necessary to fully build all levels of the Mage Guild in any two castles that you own. Or capture an opponent's castle with the required Mage Guild already built (regardless of how long the captured castle remains under control). It is not mandatory for a hero to visit this castle;
b) find and visit a "Sanctuary of Magical Thoughts" with the Raise Dead spell using any hero;
c) If any of your heroes are given the corresponding spell in Pandora's box, a pyramid, after visiting a scholar, or in a magic book (even if this hero does not have sufficient wisdom skill to learn this spell).
Against neutral monsters, as well as against the computer (if one is present on the map), level 4 magic specialists and Tant may use their specialized spell without the above restrictions.

Please note that clauses 5.2.2 and 5.8 remain:
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5.2.2. It is permitted to transfer level 4 spells and Raise Dead from specialists in them to other heroes, but the trained heroes may only use them after fulfilling sub-clauses a, b, c of clause 5.2.1.
a) if the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (Mage Guild) is built in any of the controlled castles. If these castles do not have the required Mage Guild level, then it is necessary to fully build all levels of the Mage Guild in any two castles that you own. Or capture an opponent's castle with the required Mage Guild already built (regardless of how long the captured castle remains under control). It is not mandatory for a hero to visit this castle;
b) find and visit a "Sanctuary of Magical Thoughts" with the Raise Dead spell using any hero;
c) If any of your heroes are given the corresponding spell in Pandora's box, a pyramid, after visiting a scholar, or in a magic book (even if this hero does not have sufficient wisdom skill to learn this spell)
That is, neither against neutral monsters, nor against the computer, nor against an opponent can transferred spells be used without fulfilling the above conditions.

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5.8. It is forbidden to use level 4 and 5 magic spell scrolls without building the corresponding level of the Mage Guild (Mage Guild) in any of your castles. If the starting castle does not have the corresponding Mage Guild level, you must proceed according to sub-clauses a, c of clause 5.2.1


Amendments to the rules are not accepted. The rules and regulations will NOT change during the tournament

7. Teams:
Sword
bRitvo4kA (5)
numOne (5)
Эрдэм (4)
SEM_56 (3)
Aldegir (2,5)
~no1_knows_me~ (1,5)
Wlk777 (1,5)
redwhait (1)
Kash (1)
Avern (0)

23,5
Magic
SpiriTT/Simple (4)
Javdet (4)
Dirty_Player (4)
KobRa_RR (3,5)
Gomunguls (3)
Van (2,5)
Mizrael (2,5)
КостяN (2,5)
scorp (2,5)
Hermit (2)

29,5
In parentheses, I will put the number of points earned by each participant

8. Draw in the second post

9. Disputed moments,
which I hope there won't be, will be decided by Kostya and me according to the rules adopted on ХВ. If necessary, we will seek help from authoritative online players. In case of any misunderstandings or suspicions, please contact me or KostyaN first and resolve conflicts outside the forum if possible.

10. Play for pleasure, try to avoid scandals and friction; it's just a game after all :) Good luck everyone!
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Draw
first round
(01.10 - 15.10)
Sword
***
Magic
***
Kash
0
SpiriTT
1
bRitvo4kA
1
scorp
0
loi
0
Javdet
1
Wlk777
0,5
Dirty_Player
0,5
~no1_knows_me~
0,5
Van
0,5
numOne
1
Gomunguls
0
Aldegir
1
Mizrael
0
Эрдэм
1
Hermit
0
SEM_56
0
KobRa_RR
1
Avern
0
КостяN
1
total
5,0
total
5,0
second round
(15.10 - 30.10)
Sword
***
Magic
***
bRitvo4kA
1
KobRa_RR
0
numOne
1
SpiriTT
0
Эрдэм
0,5
КостяN
0,5
Aldegir
0
Dirty_Player
1
Wlk777
0
Van
1
~no1_knows_me~
1
Javdet
0
loi
0
Mizrael
1
Kash
0
Gomunguls
1
SEM_56
0
scorp
1
Avern
0
Hermit
1
total
3,5
total
6,5

third round
(30.10 - 15.11)
Sword
***
Magic
***
numOne
0
Van
1
bRitvo4kA
1
Javdet
0
Aldegir
0
КостяN
0
Эрдэм
0,5
KobRa_RR
0,5
~no1_knows_me~
0
Mizrael
1
Wlk777
0,5
Gomunguls
0,5
redwhait
1
scorp
0
SEM_56
1
Hermit
0
Avern
0
SpiriTT
1
Kash
0
Dirty_Player
1
total
4,0
total
5,0
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fourth round
(15.11 - 29.11)
Might
***
Magic
***
bRitvo4kA
1
Van
0
numOne
1
Dirty_Player
0
Эрдэм
0,5
Mizrael
0,5
misantrop
0
Simple
1
Aldegir
0
KobRa_RR
1
SEM_56
1
КостяN
0
redwhait
0
Gomunguls
1
Wlk777
0,5
scorp
0,5
Avern
0
Javdet
1
Kash
0
Hermit
1
total
4
total
6
fifth round
(30.11 - 14.12)
Might
***
Magic
***
bRitvo4kA
1
Gomunguls
0
numOne
1
Mizrael
0
Эрдэм
1
Van
0
misantrop
0
Dirty_Player
1
Wlk777
0
SpiriTT
1
SEM_56
0
Javdet
1
Aldegir
1
Hermit
0
redwhait
0
КостяN
1
Avern
0
KobRa_RR
1
Kash
0
scorp
1
total
4
total
6
sixth round
(14.12 - 30.12)
Might
***
Magic
***
bRitvo4kA
0
SpiriTT
0
numOne
1
KobRa_RR
0
Эрдэм
0,5
Dirty_Player
0,5
SEM_56
1
Mizrael
0
Wlk777
0
Javdet
1
misantrop
0
scorp
0
Aldegir
0,5
Gomunguls
0,5
redwhait
0
Hermit
0
Kash
1
КостяN
0
Avern
0
Van
0
total
4
total
2
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If the game becomes available after October 20th, I'll definitely play it.
I support banning the Chupacabra with a cloak.
I really want to play as a wizard.
Даже если вас съели - у вас два выхода:smile19:

Зима 2011-12.
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Ready to play for Magic. I'll play as Luna, if the Sword Team allows it. I'm ready to offer the team a choice of ANY castle. I understand that this request contradicts the tournament rules. If there are any objections, I will withdraw my request. The question is, will we encounter reports like this: XXX (Dungeon, Deemer, Shakti) def YYY (Castle, Valeska, Solmyr)? Maybe we can somehow limit the switching? Added after 8 minutes
loi
I would gladly support Cash's real initiative... from words to deeds... ICQ 589481131. I would like to play for the Sword - let them prove to me that Loins, Jeditt, and Alamar are the ones who decide the outcome - if this is really the case, I will change my mind without any pain :)
If these mages had a school of magic at the start, they would be incredibly powerful. Loins would dominate if he had Water Magic instead of his usual skills.
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Dirty_Player
Loenis would be unstoppable if he had Water Magic instead of his usual ability.
If only grandmothers had… Or if Craig had Air Magic from the start… Anyway, I don’t understand why Loenis is better than any normal warrior with mass haste starting around week 2. Okay, sign me up for the sword team, but I’m afraid there won’t be many mages willing to join…
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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If grandma had... Or if Craig had air magic from the start...
What does Craig and air magic have to do with it? Craig isn't a specialist in air magic. For example, Terek and Zubina should have air magic, logically, but history doesn't know the subjunctive mood!
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If grandma had..., or if Craig had air units from the start... Anyway, I don't understand why Loins, starting around week 2, are better than any normal warrior with mass haste? Okay, sign me up for the melee team, but I'm afraid there won't be many mages who want to join...
For now, it's even. I've signed you up.

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Dirty and Wlk, if you keep spamming here, I'll put you in the corner, with all due respect.
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Let's keep the lollipop and cloak as a random element.
+1. And a la herr, com a la herr))

If grandma had...
but history doesn't know the conditional mood!
How differently one can say the same thing...))

To Kash:
or maybe, nothing – IMHO, a light, refined off-topic will only attract attention? :)
Although, any hint of trolling or flame should be suppressed mercilessly, I understand...
in short, it's up to the organizers, of course...
Стратегия - искусство возможного.

Первое правило форума :
"Хвалу и клевету приемли равнодушно
И не оспаривай глупца" (с)

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To Kash:
or maybe, just maybe, a light, refined, slightly off-topic comment will attract attention? :)
And I would say anything, I'm all for it :D
Go off-topic... just do it lightly and elegantly =)
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I'm joining the Swordbearers sect!!!

Looks like the gameplay will be fun...
"Пришел, увидел, победил" - Юлий Цезарь.
"Пришел, скастовал, убежал" - Hit'n'Run.


- Почему женщины любят кентавров?
- И мужик в доме, и скотина в хозяйстве.


Штирлиц шел по коридору. Вдруг одна из дверей открылась, оттуда выскочил Борман, дал Штирлицу сильного пендаля и заскочил обратно. «Гарпия» - догадался Штирлиц.
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I also prefer melee units. Although, I'm ready to play as a mage if there's a significant imbalance towards fighters.
Пусть мой враг будет силен и страшен. Если я поборю его, то не буду чувствовать стыда.
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numOne
I'm also in for swords! :)
Although, I'm ready to play as mages if there's a strong imbalance towards fighters.
Actually, out of those who replied, only you and Britva were in favor of unbanning all mages. So, you're definitely in for swords! :) Just so you know, I've noted it and I'm adding you to the list.
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~no1_knows_me~ - registered, swordsman)
Actually, out of those who responded, only you and Britva were in favor of unbanning all mages.
Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly enough, but I agree. The only thing is that mages aren't that strong, and unbanning them won't really help them, IMHO, but I'm washing my hands of this issue.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
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Four worthy players have already signed up. Personally, I'm not sure about my availability, so for now, I'm only up for a friendly match, games 2-3, and I'll give you a more definite answer closer to October.

P.S. I'd be more interested in Adela than Loenis, if she had water magic instead of diplomacy from the start:)

P.P.S. And Kostya is cunning - he chose the coolest mage. So, I also have a request - to play a game for Dungeon, because Tower is not my thing, and playing as Necropolis isn't too interesting, and the mage will probably play a secondary role there anyway. And for Andru.
Земля нуля.
Все в ней нулево и кукольно.

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