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Posts from Solmyr, Demeer, and Aislin are cheaters (and/or) kamikazes; do the rest have a right to exist?
Yes, that's what I was talking about.
2Kash
a) Of course, I want the mages to win convincingly. Otherwise, why would I vote against changing the rules?
b) Planning to play on 8mm6 is unrealistic, and besides, the GM is built to around 125 in 4-5 floors there.
Земля нуля. Все в ней нулево и кукольно.
Avern
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Perhaps allow the use of only those mages without restrictions, who will be selected as starting ones?
Okay, if Dirty makes a few maps, I'm ready to try Kirei against Solmyr-of-Castle :) Just not right away, I still need to finish up the tournament matches. As far as I understand, Oelm is not against it, we'll coordinate.
Oh, and Tyoma wants Solmyr/Tower vs. Kirr/Rampart, I'm all for it!
Could you allow the use of only those mages without restrictions, who will be chosen as starting mages?
I suggested this a long time ago.
Всем удачи ! И Морали !
SpiriTT
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I don't know if a tournament will happen or not – we agreed with Cash to play Solmyr vs. Kiry. I'll be playing as Red Tower. Neither of us has much time right now, but we'll find some and play, and then we'll post about it. P.S. No offense to anyone, but so far it's just talk, just like in the previous similar thread.
5 months ago, for some reason, I suddenly decided to make Solmyr my main hero while playing as Castle. I was playing against Oelm, Castle (Valya) vs. Swamp (Tazar). The respawn was quite interesting — two Griffin Conservatories and a couple of beehives, I think, but few Archers and little gold. So I'd like to submit my save from the middle of the first day (I've opened the overview) to our esteemed experimenters. I'm especially curious to compare my own "achievements" with what Solmyr can accomplish on this map in the hands of a more experienced player.
PS. The game was never finished due to my fault — it was in week 3, no contact had been made. I was stubbornly hiding Solmyr, and Oelm even wrote to me in chat that he was very curious to see who my main hero was :D I haven't peeked at the saves, so I don't know how good the Swamp's starting position is.
1. 2Kash Yes, I'm ready to play. But there are some time issues. I do want to play, even up to 2 wins. 2. 2Kluka. I haven't looked at that map or the saves. I don't know how it is there, I remember that I made quite a few mistakes + I had bad luck, and I was also going to take a couple of hives in the last save, hit the elves with hydras, etc.:D :D If you haven't opened the map yet, we can finish it.
I only read the site at night, during the day I only use ICQ.
It seems that if a tournament starts, it won't happen quickly. I offer myself as an opponent for any side (mage/fighter - it doesn't matter), because I'm tired of waiting for the next stages of the two tournaments)), and I'm reporting as usual for the seasonal tournament.
Conditions: there are no restrictions on the spells of mages, BUT using scrolls of level 4-5 also REQUIRES building a GM of the corresponding level!
I'm ready to play starting September 23rd (Wednesday) around 13:00-14:00. If anyone is interested, please let me know on ICQ (even on the official one, I always answer).
P.S.: The only reason I might not be able to play is that with some players in Hamachi, the traffic is unstable, which seems to be due to different versions of Hamachi, and such cases are no longer isolated.
Something like "Sword vs. Magic" 1. We determine by drawing lots who will play with the sword and who with magic. 2. The lucky one chooses a starting mage from three: Solmyr, Deemer, Aislin, and uses them without restrictions, either as the main hero or as a kamikaze. 3. The opponent chooses a Castle: a) against Aislin - any, except Necropolis, and also a different color. b) against Deemer - any, except Necropolis, Fortress, and Dungeon, color change after restart. c) against Solmyr - Castle, Swamp, Barbarian, or Inferno, color change after restart. 4. A Swiss system would probably be preferable. 5. The map template will most likely be a small map, or as agreed upon.
1. Those who voted for unbanning mages (option 1 or 2, so that it doesn't turn into a game of letting the other side win for the sake of the idea) should preferably play with the sword. Those who voted against unbanning should play with magic. 2. The player using magic chooses a magic specialist, and eliminates 3 Castles for the opponent. 3. The player using the sword chooses a Castle from the remaining ones and plays as a warrior. 4. Tournament system: Swiss or round-robin, depending on the number of participants. 5. Map template: small map or as agreed upon. 6. The game is played according to the seasonal rules, with the exception of point 5.2.1. This means that magic specialists can be used without restrictions, only to pass their specialized spells to other heroes and to use found magic scrolls, a corresponding level of the guild must be built. The player using magic is obliged to use the starting hero or another mage in the final. 7. Based on the results of the tournament, a decision will be made on whether or not to change the rules regarding point 5.2.1. If the percentage of wins for mages exceeds 60% (the number can still be discussed), then lifting the ban creates an imbalance in the game, and the rules remain unchanged. If it is less than 60%, then we make changes to the seasonal rules.
Then I am ready to personally participate in such a tournament (of course, with the sword) and dispel the myth about the "cheating" of magic specialists.
A player using magic must use the starting hero or another mage in the final.
And if the main character doesn't make it, but a weak character (fighter) does.
I think you shouldn't focus on the result of the game, but on the actions of the person who leveled up the mage! ... look at the daily saves to see how the mage performed at all stages of the game ... start/banks/treasure/contact.
1. Let those who voted for unbanning mages play for the sword (option 1 or 2 - so that the game doesn't turn into a game of letting the other player win for the sake of the idea). Let those who voted against unbanning play for magic.
That makes sense. :) In that case, I'm in for the sword. Then we can have a match, we'll find opponents who are close in skill to each other, after all, everyone knows everyone here.scorp
apparently, if a tournament even starts, it won't happen quickly, I offer my candidacy as an opponent for either side (mage/fighter - doesn't matter), because I can't wait for the next stages of the two tournaments)), the report goes to the seasonal league - as usual
Excellent. I'll be able to focus on the tournament in a week, or a little earlier. You can play earlier too, we'll take that into account. I voted for unbanning, maybe you can agree with Britva or numOne? If not, play with Forrest, I don't think you'll let him win easily. And the tournament will happen, no doubt, there are already 5 people, more will join.SpiriTT
I don't know if we'll organize a tournament or not - we agreed with Cash to play Solmyr vs. Kir. I'm the red Tower. Right now, neither of us has much time - we'll find some and play, and we'll let you know.
The first pair is set. Their skill levels may be slightly different, but I have more faith in Kir than in Solmyr.Oelm
1. 2Kash Yes, I'm ready to play. But there are problems with time. I do have the desire, even up to 2 wins.
You'll definitely find an opponent for the sword, SpiriTT responded earlier, and we have more time in common. We'll play with you in the seasonal league as an experiment, if we find the time, I won't go back on my word.scorp
P.S.: the only reason I can't play is that the traffic drops in some of the Hamachi games, the reason seems to be different versions of Hamachi, and this has already happened more than once.
I'm not very strong in the technical side of the issue)), and what prevents you from reinstalling Hamachi? I have 3 versions on my computer, it takes 5 minutes to switch. Version 1015 seems to work normally for everyone. Okay, now about the rules:
conditions: there are no restrictions on special mages, BUT using scrolls of level 4-5 also REQUIRES building a Guild Master of the corresponding level!
I agree. Britva writes more accurately:
The game is played according to the rules of the seasonal league, with the exception of point 5.2.1. This means that you can use special mages without restrictions, only to transfer their specific spells to other heroes and to use found magic scrolls, you need to build the corresponding level of the guild.
Let it be so. BUT:
The player playing for magic must use the starting hero or another mage in the final.
You can't force someone to use something in the final. Where's the fun then? Use whatever you want, the main thing is to win, and we'll deal with the mages.
Based on the results of the tournament, a decision will be made on whether or not to change the rules regarding point 5.2.1. If the percentage of wins for mages exceeds 60% (the number can still be discussed), then canceling the ban creates an imbalance in the game, and the rules remain unchanged. If it is less than 60%, then we make changes to the seasonal rules.
I won't make any changes to the rules based on that. Andrei, sorry. There are already 2 votes, make as many as you want. You can't make any changes based on the results of the tournament, you can only take it into account. Play for fun, stop with the bureaucracy. :)
2. The player playing for magic chooses a magic specialist, eliminates 3 castles for the opponent. 3. The player playing for the sword chooses a castle from the remaining ones and plays as a warrior.
I don't like this either. Let's say I take Aislin, eliminate the dungeon, rampart, and flax for my opponent, and I really have a good chance thanks to necromancy? Or will he then take Gosh and beat me? I don't get it :) I thought I was suggesting something related to the topic.Alex_R
I think it's not even the result of the game that matters - but the actions of the one who leveled up the mage! ... look at the daily saves to see how the mage coped at all stages of the game ... start/banks/treasure/contact.
Well, those who want to can rummage through the saves, I care more about the result. If Tyoma beats me with Solmyr, I don't care how he took the gnome mines. Yes, and especially for SpiriTT: Tyomich, no offense, I'll run fast if necessary :D
P.S. No offense to anyone, but so far it's just talk - like in the previous similar topic.
I've heard this somewhere before :) I think in this poll, you need to add the 2 options together, and unban all the mages, except for the supposedly overpowered three. Everyone has spoken, let's stop talking. We'll put the tournament in a different topic so there's no chatter
Yes, and especially for SpiritT: Tyomich, no offense, but I'll be running around quickly if needed :D
You know, if I let you survive until the 4th week and don't gain control, then my game is over :) that will be a defeat. Yesterday, I played a single-player game just for fun - Kir, level 10, on the first map with an Angel and 2 Strong Constructs. The Gate of Oblivion was broken at 124. Of course, it was an easy setup... So, even surviving until the 3rd week will be equivalent to a defeat for Solmyr...
Dirty_Player
